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Anyone seen a picture of two seater F-22?
How does F-22 pilots get their training?


 
Posts: 221 | Registered: Thu April 17 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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There are no two-seat F-22's. To the best of my limited knowlege, there arnt any plans for them either. To answer your question: Most pilots who transitioned to the F-22 already had major time in other aircraft. Rookie pilots dont get thrown directly into a new jet. They spend countless hours in trainers and simulators to aquaint themselves with the basics of flight, and then move onto aircraft specifics with the sims. By the time they reach squadron-ready status, they know the basics of how to fly and just have to fine-tune their flight skills in the new jet. There are many aircraft with the single seat delemna. The F-14 for example: While it has two seats, the back seater cant fly the jet. So a new pilot is on his own like a Raptor pilot would be.


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This still seems a brak a way from the prataces of other aircraft as bouth the F15 and 16 had 2 seaters for traning


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The A-10 doesn't though. Wink


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There are two-seat A-10's I believe.


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Nope. There was only one that was ever produced, and it was a prototype. Fairchild Republic leased back the first pre-production airframe in 1978 to produce a prototype (YA-10B or, as its more commonly know, the N/AW A-10), with two seats, that would have a night and adverse weather capability. The AF eventually decided it didn't need those capabilities in that aircraft, and the A-10 was simple enough that they didn't need a transition trainer for new A-10 pilots. The only two-seat A-10 in existence, to this day, is sitting on the ground at Edwards AFB.


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I heard of a 3 seat F-14 (sorry if this is off topic Off Topic) You can see a pict of it if you search "F 14" on google images. it's used for training of corse.

Here it is.
 
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I heard that was fake though, can anyone confirm. it was like a clever use of photoshop or something.


 
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Oh... I could see that, looks like one canopy section was duplicated.
 
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I saw that too when I typed f14 for google images. I think that the third section and the first section look the same. It would be cool if it was real though. (I know this is off-topic)



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I don't know though, looks pretty convincing to me.
 
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Looks a bit like a drawing to me...



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Ya, but if you look closely, there are some things in there that are very dificult, if not imposible, to capture in a drawing, the shadows, the reflection off the canopy, etc.
 
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It's a very old photoshop, very funny though, something about cutting the costs of training Razz


 
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There are no two-seat F-22's. To the best of my limited knowlege, there arnt any plans for them either. To answer your question: Most pilots who transitioned to the F-22 already had major time in other aircraft. Rookie pilots dont get thrown directly into a new jet. They spend countless hours in trainers and simulators to aquaint themselves with the basics of flight, and then move onto aircraft specifics with the sims. By the time they reach squadron-ready status, they know the basics of how to fly and just have to fine-tune their flight skills in the new jet. There are many aircraft with the single seat delemna. The F-14 for example: While it has two seats, the back seater cant fly the jet. So a new pilot is on his own like a Raptor pilot would be.


The F-22 is fairly easy to fly, what with all the fail-safe flight systems. Trainee pilots do spend a lot of time in sims, but their first few flights are just familiarization flights: take off, wheels up, go around the pattern, wheels down, land. They don't actually start learning how to "employ" the fighter for a few weeks. Most of the new pilots are learning how to fly & fight in the Raptor out at Edwards right now; there is already an operational squadron (with another one on the way) out at Langley.

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