Hi Everyone,

The Su-27 has ~2.3 Mach top speed and about 18,000m service ceiling. I tried to reach that in LOMAC. I could not come close. Anyone achieved that? Once I got 16,000m (with clean config) and then got into deep deep stall. I could not recover until it hit ground! Maybe they even simulated permanent engine damage. Is there special skill required to achieve top speed or service ceiling?

Thanks,

i achieved that ceiling before but not the speed. I could if i just dive, and recovering from a stall is fairly easy.

It's been debated over on the bug forums. All planes in this game are horridly underpowered. Especially my beloved starship...*sob*....

Don't try to zoom climb. Don't try to get up past 30-40 angels. And for God's sake please do not attempt any type of turn with those big ole' gas tanks hangin off your plane.

Here is one curve I made, thought it be fun since it was so long since we did this. If we did this recently I missed that post, OK, here is one curve, clean Su27 full tank and FC 1.12a:

  
 TIME	 IAS	 TAS	 ALT
=======	=====	======	=======
 00:00	   0	    0	    17
 02:00	 810	 1240	  8080
 04:00	 800	 1620	 12210
 06:00	 810	 1910	 14200
 08:00	 810	 2110	 15380
   --- resting accelerating here ---
 10:00	 880	 2290	 15380
 12:00	 810	 2310	 16620
 14:00	 820	 2360	 16620
   --- close to speed limit it seems ---
 16:00	 750	 2330	 17640
 18:00	 680	 2300	 18630
 20:00	 690	 2320	 18630

Then the usual finale:

zero-G unload and dive, bouncing off the layer
at ALT 14100m speed 1060 IAS smooth pullback ending
in a 70 degree climb and ending in a max alt of 31.040 m.

That result is not sensational when it comes to LockOn, you can do better. This was my first and only attempt and I knew no numbers, it is possible you can just charge up there quicker hit the Alt-3 autopilot walk away and come back and do the last step climbs by manually.

Fir the hi alt record attemp this time I wonder if perhaps I should have bounced off 15000m instead, I don't remember how we did it last year ......

Actualy the Mig-29 will hapily go to 20000m (or 60000 feet) and keep supersonic. In order to achieve this you need to do a mach 0.9 from low altitudes and then let the speed increase at 25000 feet and then climb as fast as you can while supersonic.

It seems that when you go too high, the plane will simply STOP CLIMBING, as if it just hit a wall or something. (you can see this if you hit F3... if you have the novice settings enabled.)