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More here..

http://www.gripen.com/articles/5.12eabae10816da143c8000507.html





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Small fighter but some serious fire power right there. Can the gripen take more than 4 meteors?


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Not right now. However, the center pylon will be modified to carry two Meteor's in the future. So eventually it can carry a total of six.

Here's a good page, that shows the Gripen's weapons capability. http://www.gripen.com/download/18.86359107460425368000879/Packing_Iron.pdf




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Right...From whom?
I am just full with thise PR ... the **** thing is not even certified to carry the AIM-9M. Ask the CzAF why they had to but from Sweeden twenty or so AIM-9L when they already had in the arsenal the AIM-9M... Wink
After looking to that doc... that just say..well we could snap that weapon on it but i will cost you extra cause that is an optional ...
 
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Thats temporary. The issues are going to be resolved. And then I would take the gripen over the Mi-21 lancer any day. Demonic


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Well ..Lancer will be replaced. We made requests for offers... I'm hoping something US made. Let's face it, US give the tone now in weapons design ... Dunno how much time will still do..
 
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I'm wondering how hard it would be to modify it to carry the AIM 9M, but then again why not shell a little extra to buy the AIM 9X instead of buying old AIM 9L?

The Gripen is a nice little AC, but I really think range and payload will hamper it.

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Well is not that simple. Carying is one thing , using it is complectly different game. You must program the Weapon System to "talk" with the missile, hence you need to have the OK from the manufacturer(specs/codes/protocoles/etc.) . Then you need to test/certify the plane for using that weapons. Adding a new weapon to arsenal of a plane might take some years...
 
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Strange,Raytheon have listed AIM-9M as intergrated both on Gripen and Viggen.
 
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The Czech got what they ordered I guess. The RWR isn't fitted on Swedish aircraft most of the time either. A good way to save money in times of peace I suppose. And it doesn't mean it can't carry them. Or it could be that the Czech wanted RWR's that was accepted by NATO instead of the ones carried by the Swedish Gripens.

The Gripen should have no problems using the AIM-9M.




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Originally posted by nicolas10:
The Gripen is a nice little AC, but I really think range and payload will hamper it.

Nic


I don't think so. For a small high performance fighter it can carry an impressive amount of ordnance. Plus it still got 40 years to develop. Range is good, 3500km ferry range. Combat range with max load is said to be 800km.

Max load carried by the Gripen is 5300kg, but this will most likely increase as the aircraft evolves.




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The RWR isn't fitted on Swedish aircraft most of the time either. [...] Or it could be that the Czech wanted RWR's that was accepted by NATO instead of the ones carried by the Swedish Gripens.


A litle of contradiction there? I cant figure out why would anyone get rid of the RWR for economy poposes... Theres so much better ways to save money than cut a FUNDAMENTAL piece of hardware like this, even in peace time.
Theres no scroogier guys like my countries defense ministry and we even have RWR's on our C-130's!! Indifferent


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I didn't mean they didn't have RWR's at all. But that the RWR's can be removed when they aren't needed. When Swedish Gripens go abroad, to airshows for example, the RWR's are sometimes removed.

I really don't know how the Czech do it though. Hungary has RWR's fitted on their Gripens. At least on the pics that I have seen. If there aren't RWR's on the Czech Gripens I'm sure there's an explanation for it.




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Yeah as a point defense fighter it's a potent little AC allright Smile


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Not to mention its stunningly beautiful shape! Wink2

Pics of the Czech Gripen.

http://www.afbcaslav.cz/med/tisk/2005/dod.htm




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Hej Robban 75,how can you see on a pic that the Gripen is or isn´t carrying a RWR
 
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Hej Robban 75,how can you see on a pic that the Gripen is or isn´t carrying a RWR


If the plane is equipped with RWR's, there should be a yellow circle with a white dot in the middle, on the front and back end of the wingtip missile rail. Happy



If not, then the rail is grey. Like this.





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It's okay, although I wouldn't say it's nearly as sexy as a Rafale, but it's way above the Eurofighter or the F22... For some odd reason, I like the Gripen better in the biplace version (like the F5/T38).

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Also you have the FPU(Fin Pod),do you know if it´s also removed?
I dont know if there is a FAU(Front Ant)in Gripen A/B you have it in the C/D model together with a RAU(Rear Ant).
 
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How does one visually differentiate JAS 39A & 39C?
 
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