Hey I didnt know iraq had Mig 29s? Just seen a f15 shoot one out of the air! Very nice footage!

Well guys, you are catching up to our f15 alright Too bad the Raptors are hitting our bases now... Muahhahahahaha

1 man and a rucksack can pwn any aircraft you have. Muhahahahaha.

"Allah Ackbar!"



Will there be enough Raptors to help the F-15's from being pwned by the Iranian F-14's

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Originally posted by No_Name_Rage:
Hey I didnt know iraq had Mig 29s? Just seen a f15 shoot one out of the air! Very nice footage!

Well guys, you are catching up to our f15 alright Too bad the Raptors are hitting our bases now... Muahhahahahaha

Hmm wasn’t it Mig29A’s??

And with the amount of air power Iraq had I don’t think the US would have bothered sending Raptors, had they been operational at the time .. In fact I would bet that the USAF could have used their inventory from the 1970’s and they would’ve still had the same kill ratio.

IMO no third world country has anything that can even come close to a USAF Eagle driver .. he’s to well armed, supported and well trained for anything other than the new fourth gen fighters to be a threat.. so the Eagle still has a lot of legs left in the A2A game.

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Originally posted by No_Name_Rage:
Hey I didnt know iraq had Mig 29s? Just seen a f15 shoot one out of the air! Very nice footage!

Well guys, you are catching up to our f15 alright Too bad the Raptors are hitting our bases now... Muahhahahahaha

It's not exactly a game. Somebody died, serving their country.

Soldiers and pilots alike, do what they are trained to do, with the equipment they have. I think a certain amount of respect is due.

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Originally posted by Red_lightning1:
1 man and a rucksack can pwn any aircraft you have. Muhahahahaha.

"Allah Ackbar!"



Will there be enough Raptors to help the F-15's from being pwned by the Iranian F-14's

It seems to me ur on the axis side.......

Just checking my fishing skills.

But seriously the Iranian's have 57 F-14's that were fully rebuilt to 0 hours airframe time. They have reversed engineered every spare part they need and have even started AIM-54C production. They also have/are getting modified BUK systems from the russians and have a very cabable air force so I can't see the F-15's doing much damage against that. They'll need the F-22 as protection and even then think of the embarasement when/if the Iranians down one.

Also don't see why the Iranians shouldnt be able to have nuclear power stations.

F-14's rebuilt to 0 hours airframe time ..> HEH!

And production of AIM-54C... EHHEHAHAH.

Iranians got the 54A last I checked, and I doubt they went far with that to begin with

The F-14's that still fly do so thanks to cannibalization of other aircraft.

In addition, knowing all the properties of the weapon system, the USAF can easily jam it if the need arises.

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Originally posted by Red_lightning1:
Just checking my fishing skills.

But seriously the Iranian's have 57 F-14's that were fully rebuilt to 0 hours airframe time. They have reversed engineered every spare part they need and have even started AIM-54C production. They also have/are getting modified BUK systems from the russians and have a very cabable air force so I can't see the F-15's doing much damage against that. They'll need the F-22 as protection and even then think of the embarasement when/if the Iranians down one.

Also don't see why the Iranians shouldnt be able to have nuclear power stations.

Dude, either you have 1337 fishing skills or a very tenuous grasp on reality

So a lot of people (including an ex-f-14 driver over at the FO forums) have no grip on reality?

cannibalization of other aircraft? Seems someone is still singing from the US propaganda hymn book of the 1980's.



One of the newly built F-14's. Before she was handed over to Iran she carried the US Navy serial number of 160335 then carried 3-8007 serial until her rebuild.

Perhaps Moe (D-sythe) will turn up with his supreme knowlege of propaga.... sorry US missiles so larry and curley dont feel lonely.

If the aircraft had an original US Navy BuNo...it is not now...nor could it EVER BE a zero-time airframe. Did your "ex-F14 driver" tell you that this was possible?

BTW...just an observation on a previous post of yours...it is "Allahu Akhbar"...that is, IF you expect your "expertise" to be taken seriously.

Also, do you mean to tell us all the placards on IRIAF aircraft are all still in English? You got your IRIAF serial number wrong too, BTW.

Chill down, not the F-14, nor the F-22 will ever be used in a "real" conflict (besides mandating other small countries on "democracy" and stealing natural resources). If it will, then you and I better take those iodine pills and wrap aluminium foil around our balls. So saying "the F-22 will be victorious against China" or something of that magnitude is only allowed after smoking a handful of superb chronic.
I don't understand what the guy said, you said they had reverse engineered airframes, and later you say their newest once carried USN numbers? So what is it, new or old, but with shiny panels?
A "backpacker" can get an F-22, not F-22 will ever stop a suicide bomber for that matter. The F-15 can, the F-15E.

Oh, if the US attacks Iran, the jews in your country (not as many as in mine, but still a lot) will get quite angry after every suicide bobmber in the Middle East goes on a holiday trip to the Dead Sea.

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Originally posted by Cosmonaut.:

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Originally posted by No_Name_Rage:
Hey I didnt know iraq had Mig 29s? Just seen a f15 shoot one out of the air! Very nice footage!

Well guys, you are catching up to our f15 alright Too bad the Raptors are hitting our bases now... Muahhahahahaha

Hmm wasn’t it Mig29A’s??

And with the amount of air power Iraq had I don’t think the US would have bothered sending Raptors, had they been operational at the time .. In fact I would bet that the USAF could have used their inventory from the 1970’s and they would’ve still had the same kill ratio.

IMO no third world country has anything that can even come close to a USAF Eagle driver .. he’s to well armed, supported and well trained for anything other than the new fourth gen fighters to be a threat.. so the Eagle still has a lot of legs left in the A2A game.

The F14s still scared the hell out of them....... they learned their lesson ..... Yalla Yalla Yalla, F14!!!! , Yalla Yalla!!!

Combat Aircraft - May 2006, Vol.7 - No. 6

"In recent years, the IRIAF has run an increasing number of F-14's through overhaul, refurbishment and upgrade projects at Irainian Aircraft Industries in Mehrabad. During this process, the airframes are compleatly stripped down, parts of their structure either replaced or reinforced (as necessary), and new avionics, wiring, communications and cooling systems added. Essentially, such airframes are brought back to 'zero hour' condition, enabling the F-14 fleet to remain a highly potent and effective force.

"It is nothing short of irony that while the US Navy has retired the remaining AIM-54s, and is about to phase out its last two squadrons of F-14Ds, the Iranians made keeping the Phoenix and Tomcat in operational condition a matter of national pride. Immense investment has ensured that the IRIAF can still arm its F-14s not only with refurbished AIM-54s, but also with a reverse-engineered and improved version of the weapon"

"In spite of popular belief that the IRIAF was left without operational AIM-54 Pheonix missiles, and that the AWG-9 radars of its F-14s were all 'sabotaged by the CIA' back in 1979, the Iranians were actually left with a fully functional Tomcat fleet, which was heavily - and with considerable success - utilized during the war with Iraq".

there is notheing wrong with the USN phaseing out aircraft which was orignaly desigened in the 70s

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Originally posted by SawsAll:
Combat Aircraft - May 2006, Vol.7 - No. 6

"In recent years, the IRIAF has run an increasing number of F-14's through overhaul, refurbishment and upgrade projects at Irainian Aircraft Industries in Mehrabad. During this process, the airframes are compleatly stripped down, parts of their structure either replaced or reinforced (as necessary), and new avionics, wiring, communications and cooling systems added. Essentially, such airframes are brought back to 'zero hour' condition, enabling the F-14 fleet to remain a highly potent and effective force.

That statement from that article destroys its credibility. Overhaul of an airframe does not return it to a zero-hour condition, no matter how many times someone prints that misconception in an article.

Hi guys, I read this forum all the time but don't usually make comments but his one made me laugh.

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Originally posted by SawsAll:
Combat Aircraft - May 2006, Vol.7 - No. 6

"In recent years, the IRIAF has run an increasing number of F-14's through overhaul, refurbishment and upgrade projects at Irainian Aircraft Industries in Mehrabad. During this process, the airframes are compleatly stripped down, parts of their structure either replaced or reinforced (as necessary), and new avionics, wiring, communications and cooling systems added. Essentially, such airframes are brought back to 'zero hour' condition, enabling the F-14 fleet to remain a highly potent and effective force.

The RAAF do this all the time to the F111's, all it does is keep them flying a little bit longer. The process of "reinforcing" as quoted, happens all the time on the f111's, adding more weight to the airframe. Not what you really want on an already fatigued airframe.
Considering the quote above Australia now has 20 odd, brand new F111's. Makes you wonder why we are looking for a replacement.

does ne1 go on lock on: modern air combat online coz i dont no how to use it! any help?

and the f-15c will kick any other fighters ass!

..brad..

Iran does have a few F-14A's left flying, but they shot off all of their Phoenix's during the Iran/Iraq war, I doubt they have any working units left; the solid-fuel motor on the Phoenix is only good for 10-12 years before it becomes unstable and, possibly, inert. As for "manufacturing" AIM-54C's, I'd like to know how Iran could build a sophisticated, state-of-the-art, microelectronic guidance system for them; they might be able to manufacture the propulsion subsystem, but no way they'd have a decent guidance package.

Last I heard (a few years ago), Iran was using the -14's with their AWG-9's as an AWACS platform and directing other fighter aircraft; they were too valuable to actually use them in battle.

I wouldn't be so quick to say the Iranians couldn't pull it off, they've got some pretty smart cookies over there.

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Originally posted by IguanaKing:
I wouldn't be so quick to say the Iranians couldn't pull it off, they've got some pretty smart cookies over there.

Yes, they do have some very well-educated people over there (I'm related to some of them), I was thinking more about their industrial manufacturing base; I'm sure they could develop the proper hardware in a laboratory, but translating that to mass-production is another story. Also, at this point, it sounds like their best minds are working on designing and developing a funtional nuclear weapon.