Im actually not at all keen on the more realistic look. The reaon I bought the 1st game was bcoz of its gorgeous and recognizable art style and if they change that to something that looks dull and needlesly realistic Im not likely to buy the game.

And I certainly hope they dont change the title, if they do they might as well make a different game.

Personally Im not opposed to BG&E evolving and changing a bit but I think they could have brought it into this gen without making it look ugly. Like the way Ratchet and Clank did with Ratchet and Clank Future

Still its too early to tell

Graphics don't make a game good and the desert shot looks bland as deserts are bland.

I think if they are going to make it look this hyper-realistic they may as well drop the talking pigs and other fantasy stuff.

Also its not just the desert that looks bland. Peyj has way too much detail on him and not enough colour and its not just bcoz hes not wearing his trademark jacket. He looks like hed be more at home in a war or army themed game if he wasnt a talking pig.

And I dont think graphics are so important either but style and visuals carried alot of weight when I purchased BG&E. So I dont think its necesary to sacrifice style just to look as next gen as possible.

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Originally posted by GC_Etosi_GiR:
I agree with darkenega. I'm obsessed with the gray area in people and their ideals. The idea that good and evil aren't really all that different and it's simply a matter of perception. So the title for me is kinda crucial. It shows a level of maturity that I didn't really expect the title to live up to but was pleasantly surprised when it did. I think they should just add a sub-title like they did with Pirates of the Caribbean.

I agree and I think its possible for them to continue with that premise of 'the lines between good and evil being blurred' if they revealed in the story that the people of the Domz planet, who till now have been the enemy, were at some stage victoms of the Hyllis whos governement attacked them for pearl energy or something thus inciting retaliation from small groups on the planet. Im not saying that she should then start attacking Hyllians but maybe she could try to expose these secrets to public and give them the opportunity to side with good rather than the disorted perception of good invented through the media to further Hyllian interests. Also this could be puspose of Domz disguising Jade as a Hyllian and sending her to Hyllis to save the innocent Domz without harming any innocent Hyllians.

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Originally posted by bitebug2003:
I somehow don't think that Ubisoft will take the risk to make BG&E episodic.

The risk of a repeat of the original would be a gamble.

It's arguably less of a risk for them to make it episodic. They can simply see if it sells and if it doesn't they can cancel the other episodes altogether. Like Jason said though most episodic games aren't really working at the moment, so I hope BG&E doesn't jump on the same bandwagon.

I think they should make the game semi-remake, semi-continuation. If they want more people to buy the game, they may have to reboot the franchise.

Or they'll just sell the original (patched, hopefully) together with the sequel, and/or perhaps a "Previously on Beyond Good & Evil" in the beginning (with or without Jack Bauer-voice).

Or just restock and commercialize the first game when the second comes out.

"Beyond Good & Evil 2, Now in Stores, Also in Stores, the original game, Beyond Good & Evil. Games and Console sold separately."

"Previously" on the second game would be good too, either have the same graphics from the first game for the "Previously" cinematic or recreate small parts of the first game in the new style in the "Previously" cinematic.

No, I expect the story in BG&E 2 won't require knowledge of BG&E 1. That's the way you make a sequel. It will answer some of the questions from BG&E 1, but the player won't feel lost if they never played BG&E 1.

Actually, BG&E 1 did have a proper ending if you omit the final few seconds.

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Originally posted by Jason____:
Actually, BG&E 1 did have a proper ending if you omit the final few seconds.

did you omit the final few seconds?

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Originally posted by DiDoFRGT10:

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Originally posted by Jason____:
Actually, BG&E 1 did have a proper ending if you omit the final few seconds.

did you omit the final few seconds?

Well, it seemed tacked on anyways.

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Originally posted by Jason____:

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Originally posted by DiDoFRGT10:

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Originally posted by Jason____:
Actually, BG&E 1 did have a proper ending if you omit the final few seconds.

did you omit the final few seconds?

Well, it seemed tacked on anyways.

The ending is what made people beg for a sequel for FIVE YEARS and not giving up on it!! So forgive me if I disagree

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Originally posted by DiDoFRGT10:
The ending is what made people beg for a sequel for FIVE YEARS and not giving up on it!! So forgive me if I disagree

You're absolutely right. In fact, I'd bet that the whole reason they tacked on that ending was to make people beg for a sequel.

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Originally posted by Jason____:

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Originally posted by DiDoFRGT10:
The ending is what made people beg for a sequel for FIVE YEARS and not giving up on it!! So forgive me if I disagree

You're absolutely right. In fact, I'd bet that the whole reason they tacked on that ending was to make people beg for a sequel.

Actually I wasnt that moved by the ending either. My reaction was more like Ohh surprise. But then Im probably not that easily excited. The only reason I want a sequel is because I liked the 1st game so much and it was too short and theres nothing else like it availible on shelves.

Id really think it would be great if they sold the 1st game again but this time with the European cover instead that nasty North American one

The only problem is consoles. They definately cant package it with the sequel and alot people may not have older consoles. Also the pc versions full of bugs and fixing them would make the whole thing seem less worthwhile.

mystique1987: Dittos to that! I want BG&E 2 not because of the 5-second cliffhanger, but because BG&E 1 was such a great experience that was way too short.

All these years, the PC version has continued to sell through digital distribution. In fact, I would bet that the PC version sold the most by far because of that.

The PC version does have some issues with modern hardware though, but it can work pretty good if you make some adjustments to the advanced graphics options.

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Originally posted by Jason____:
No, I expect the story in BG&E 2 won't require knowledge of BG&E 1. That's the way you make a sequel. It will answer some of the questions from BG&E 1, but the player won't feel lost if they never played BG&E 1.

Actually, BG&E 1 did have a proper ending if you omit the final few seconds.

I agree. There is nothing important about the story of BGE that can't be explained during the course of the sequel, is there?

I think its a shame that people only started buying the game recently by downloading it on pc rather than buying it on a console when it came out or on a pc when there werent too many hardware issues and they could actually be impressed by how good it looked for its time. Alot of people who play it now seem to get a bad impression bcoz of all the issues. Seriously I would freak if Double H just disappeared half way through the final level of the game

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Originally posted by Clomer1:

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Originally posted by Jason____:It was rendered with the game engine, and is absolutely based on in-game graphics.

Did they actually say that at Ubidays? It looks pre-rendered to me.

They did, but they didn't have to. If you look close, you can see the polygons on Pay'j, the car...hell, even on Jade.

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Originally posted by Jack_Vykios:

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Originally posted by Clomer1:

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Originally posted by Jason____:It was rendered with the game engine, and is absolutely based on in-game graphics.

Did they actually say that at Ubidays? It looks pre-rendered to me.

They did, but they didn't have to. If you look close, you can see the polygons on Pay'j, the car...hell, even on Jade.

It could have fooled me I totally thought it was pre-rendered. You must be super observant bcoz I really cant see any polygons or jagies to give it away as being in-game.

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Originally posted by Daroth_343:

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Originally posted by bitebug2003:
I somehow don't think that Ubisoft will take the risk to make BG&E episodic.

The risk of a repeat of the original would be a gamble.

It's arguably less of a risk for them to make it episodic. They can simply see if it sells and if it doesn't they can cancel the other episodes altogether. Like Jason said though most episodic games aren't really working at the moment, so I hope BG&E doesn't jump on the same bandwagon.

If they make it episodic wont that result in linear and less imersive gameplay?

I love the new art style. What didn't work for the first game was that it looked cartoony but had a in-depth story as far as video games go...

The short-length didn't help sales either.