I think all of us are in agreement that BGE was a great game. However, from a financial standpoint it was one of the biggest flops in gaming history. So I though I'd pose the question: What should Ubisoft do to make BGE2 a financially successful game? Should they use a different title as some have speculated? What do you think will make BGE2 the financial success that will make Ubi more likely to make more games like this?


I'll go ahead and throw out a few thoughts to get the discussion going:

1-Give the game a proper release date

BGE got a crappy release date in a time when most games would be hard pressed to sell. Giving this game a good release date when gamers are more likely to buy it will the the first step in making this game sell. Ubi should treat this as a triple-A game when it comes to releasing this game.

2-Release these games on multiple systems and venues

I'm curious if Ubisoft will place this game across all consoles after being burned so bad when they released BGE across all platforms. They should definitely do this to reach the broadest market possible. In particular I think they definitely need to make Wii and PC versions because that's where adventure gamers seem to be the most active. Also, when it comes to the PC marker Ubi needs to be open to multiple venues. Don't just offer it retail but also offer digital sales. They should also explore third parties like releasing the game on Steam or Stardock's upcoming Impulse service (I know some people don't like Steam but there are PC gamers out there who won't buy a game unless it's on Steam. Crazy I know but if it will sell more games...). Luckily Ubisoft already seems to be in good standings with Steam and released Assassins Creed and Rambow Six Vegas on Steam the same time they went retail for the PC.

That's all I got at the moment. Thoughts? Comments? Criticisms? Rants?

Like I said before:

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1. Don't change ANYTHING in the game universe, charcters and the STORYLINE! Plz continue the story from where it ended! Don't start it like PoP WW! Plzzz.. As for the graphics style, I'm sure Ancel will take the best choice in that matter

2. Make the biggest advertising campain you can make, don't make the same mistake

3. Release it before or after any other big title with atleast 3 months period, I mean, I know I'll buy it no matter what other games are released at the same time, but I'm sure that many other gamers will have to choose 1 game, and they might not go for BG&E, sad but true..

4. I know it's hard to ask, and I said it before, but throw a collectors edition that have both parts with some cinematics, artwork and interviews, and throw it with a special price, I'm sure everyone will buy it

At last, I need to ask every BG&E fan a favour: let's help Ubisoft advertise the new game, tell everyone you know about it, and if they don't know it, make them buy the 1st one and play it, don't stop talking about it until it gets ingraved in their heads
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Originally posted by DiDoFRGT10:
Like I said before:

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1. Don't change ANYTHING in the game universe, charcters and the STORYLINE! Plz continue the story from where it ended! Don't start it like PoP WW! Plzzz.. As for the graphics style, I'm sure Ancel will take the best choice in that matter

2. Make the biggest advertising campain you can make, don't make the same mistake

3. Release it before or after any other big title with atleast 3 months period, I mean, I know I'll buy it no matter what other games are released at the same time, but I'm sure that many other gamers will have to choose 1 game, and they might not go for BG&E, sad but true..

4. I know it's hard to ask, and I said it before, but throw a collectors edition that have both parts with some cinematics, artwork and interviews, and throw it with a special price, I'm sure everyone will buy it

At last, I need to ask every BG&E fan a favour: let's help Ubisoft advertise the new game, tell everyone you know about it, and if they don't know it, make them buy the 1st one and play it, don't stop talking about it until it gets ingraved in their heads
"

Im more concerned about them changing the art style than any story elements. To that end I think they should try to prevent people who dont know too much about the previous game from seeing the new trailer because anyone who likes over-realistic and gritty games isnt going to dig talking pigs and anyone who likes fantasy and adventure isnt going to like griity and over-realistic looking games. It can also turn off existing fans because one of the maindraws of the 1st game was the magical design whereas this trailer showcases something completly different which can turn people away. Still graphical improvements over the previous game are obviously necesary.

I also understand the 1st game faultered because of the lack of advertising but again I think they should wait till they have something better than the current teaser because like I said while fans are exited just to find out about a sequel, all newbies are going to see is a talking pig in a dessert. Also Id take a chance and be modest with the promotion of this game because over-rating it is also a risk. I think whats more important than the level of exposure is what aspects of the game emphasised. The trailers for the 1st game showed one too many real-time cutscenes and not enough gameplay so people would compare it to something like final fantay which has pre-rendered cutscenes and not so great gameplay, when in fact BG&E didnt have pre-rendered cutscenes but its strenght was in minute to minute play.

I also tink reseling the 1st game might be an idea if its possible. This time they should use the Eropean cover for all regions I think


Dont release the game anywhere near the new Spyro or Tomb Raider game because people like me are going to be looking to buy those games and while I probably would choose BG&E others may not.

How about release it next christmas? But it's long time to wait tho...

I think the cover should include more parts of the game making it more attracted... not just the main character, city and some black enemy ships... now let's hope the trailer will be good too....... don't make an end like the moon part without warning about that you cannot return back to hillys if you continue.... God knows how many that has felt in that trap...


Btw, in the BG&E trailer it's a part that shows Jade walking in a part of the factory that I just can't find a way to.... and in a demo game there's over 100 pearls (and a different skin), not 88.... anyone able to explain that?

When it comes to cover art, I think they should have like a black background with a section of a katana across in which you can see the reflection of Jade's beautiful green eyes. That would be cool.

And Jade should have a katana in the game. They already have the FF-designer on the crew so it's on!

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Originally posted by chrisis1993:
How about release it next christmas? But it's long time to wait tho...

I think the cover should include more parts of the game making it more attracted... not just the main character, city and some black enemy ships... now let's hope the trailer will be good too....... don't make an end like the moon part without warning about that you cannot return back to hillys if you continue.... God knows how many that has felt in that trap...


Btw, in the BG&E trailer it's a part that shows Jade walking in a part of the factory that I just can't find a way to.... and in a demo game there's over 100 pearls (and a different skin), not 88.... anyone able to explain that?

I wouldnt recomend releasing on Christmas because I think there would be alot of other much anticipated games . Even I might forgo buying it if its released anywhere near the new Spyro or Tomb Raider games. And we dont want it falling into the same trap the last game did

Cover art is pretty important for a game like this that few people have heard of. I would go for something more active this time maybe showing Jade running while holding a camera in one hand through a city or inside or out off a facility. Or maybe a less Sci-fi backdrop similair to those Crytaline mines in the 1st game. What ever it is I will be attracted to it if it looks really neat and well coloured like the cover for the 1st game.

I don't think neat and colorful is what attracts gamers these days. I think a more dark, simple and mysterious cover would be more fitting, neither good nor evil, but something... beyond.

Keep in mind gamers sometimes buy games just because the cover looks cool.

1.Ubisoft should make the game many consoles as possible (ps2,ps3,xbox360,,maybe wii and DS).Also on pc.
2.The game shouldnt concertrate on graphics but i think story is most important.(It should fit with BG&E.
3.The game should have a proper relase date.
4.ESRB:7+

Well put DiDo. I totally agree. This game CANNOT be compromised in the slightest way. The problem before wasn't the game but the advertising. This is obvious. I've never seen a negative comment about BG&E so, obviously, anyone whose heard of it loved it hence, advertising was the problem. And since Ubisoft is wlling to pick this up again despite how bad it flopped they must realize this is happening because of the fans. Have faith in Monsieur Ancel Ubisoft, he created something beautiful. Additionally, it is up to all of us to make this happen. I've never seen so many passionate fans. BG&E obviously evoked something in all of us and none of us want to see that lost. Spread the word. The BG&E2 grassroots campaign!!! Anyone out there have the tech savvy to create a website dedicated to this? Petitions and all? If so let me know and I'll support it. CARLSON AND PETERRRS!!!

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Originally posted by DiDoFRGT10:
Like I said before:

"
1. Don't change ANYTHING in the game universe, charcters and the STORYLINE! Plz continue the story from where it ended! Don't start it like PoP WW! Plzzz.. As for the graphics style, I'm sure Ancel will take the best choice in that matter

2. Make the biggest advertising campain you can make, don't make the same mistake

3. Release it before or after any other big title with atleast 3 months period, I mean, I know I'll buy it no matter what other games are released at the same time, but I'm sure that many other gamers will have to choose 1 game, and they might not go for BG&E, sad but true..

4. I know it's hard to ask, and I said it before, but throw a collectors edition that have both parts with some cinematics, artwork and interviews, and throw it with a special price, I'm sure everyone will buy it

At last, I need to ask every BG&E fan a favour: let's help Ubisoft advertise the new game, tell everyone you know about it, and if they don't know it, make them buy the 1st one and play it, don't stop talking about it until it gets ingraved in their heads
"

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Originally posted by mung13:
CARLSON AND PETERRRS!!!

I love it when he says that

I really hope someone at ubi is reading this and that we are heard! I also hope someone would give us any type of updates! There are rumors that it's gonna turn out to be an anime movie!! I really hope not!! Hope we'll get our treat at leipzag..