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http://youtube.com/watch?v=UOpcPfAarjY

i cant stand oil companies and i cant stand all the people who think its the presidents fought for gas prices... the congress can kiss my ***... i am not trying to start up an argument, im just trying to show yall an important video that needs to be seen...
 
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Im pretty sure Canada could be energy independent if we wanted to. Except everyone wants our oil...

Do you know that Alberta, the NW territories, Nununavut, Yukon and BC all have oil reserves? Were just too lazy to open them up!




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yea thats true, i mean its gona be funny when the saudies run out, if they do anytime soon... There is oil everywhere, the american congress is just too stuiped to do anything about it...
 
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Already, to fix your post. Cos I doubt you have research one what is the real problem with today's oil.

Oil is going to be around for 200 years plus or minus a few years.

The problem is not whether or not we are completely running out of oil.

The problems are 2:
1st, We are running out of CHEAPLY and easily accessible oil. Is not goingt o be 1 mile, or maybe 2k feet under ground. now we have to go, 20k, 30k, eventually 100k feet deeper to find the oil.

2nd. Some of the oil we are now trying to get, is not as old as the one we got before, and thus it needs to be refined for a longer time, which spends more energy, and takes more money.

SO to sum it all up and not write another essay, we are A running out of oil we can get for 80 bucks a barrel, we have to go way to deep to get it. Canada has Oil Sands, which are very uncommon, meaning is the only of the few that has it. Oil Sands need to be refined far more than normal Oil meaning it is only plausible to buy it froma close neighbor, thus US and canada. Canada coudl not sell it to france, later on is goignt o cost so much to just ship it is not gona be funny.

US is already known as the saudi arabia of coal. Theyw ant to lift off shore drilling, but you have to understand none of those sites off shore are guaranteed to have as much asoil as they hoped, besides the fact they are EXTREMLY deep. So it wont relief prices back home, but it will incrase homeland secuirty since we can put more away in case.


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Yeah, their is a petition for off shore drilling going around. It already has like a million signs.



 
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There are alredy some major movements for clean energy though. Most of them are plausible and can be achieved in less then 30 years if the America congress suports it.

Nuclear energy: Build 50 more of these things and you will enough nuclear energy to run the United States for years.

Natural Energy: Look at Niagra falls for example. If we wanted to we use it to power half of ontario, but instead we decide not to.

Solar Energy: Need I say more?

Hybrids: If car companies start making these things affordable then maybe people will buy them.

Coal: Already explained above.




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yes, that is the problem with both repuglicans and democratic ideas. The republicans want a quick fix, and relief, to give them time to get their hands on something else.

Democrats want to keep the pressure so more influence is put on alternative energies.

Both ideas in the core sound fine, but right now something needs to be done to relief the pressure, So I go a bit more for republicans drilling everywhere safely, while we can get a break, and we can then shift all our sources to alternatives.

Democrats are more of, well, we are gona tighten our belts for 10 more years, but by then we'll have everything done. At the price of national security.

So both ideas are good, but republican one, although I am a democrat, will take prolly 12-15 to take hold, but it wont sacrifice national security nor our ability to mobolize our military if needed.


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another person posting about the garbage the liberal media is throwing down your throught. we never went to war for oil. i havnt seen any oil tapped by americans since i have been here. not to mention if you remember the media was 1000% behind the war when it first started. the media is like a windsock. wich ever way the wind blows they go. if the public loves the war they will say the war is good and so forth to get rating up. if the war is bad thats all you see. why dont you try some other form of news like REAL SOLDIERS!

im tired of people saying we are dying for nothing when they cant even think like a soldier. would you give up some gas for a co-worker. soldiers would. if a co-worker was stuck in a burning building would you go back in even if you hated the person, we would. no, no soldier signs up and says we want to die. but we know going into a combat MOS, we are gonna go to war. and its a strong chance we will die. all you civs out their dont throw a soldiers name into your defense saying were dying for nothing. say what you mean. your a coward and dont want to finish what you started in the first place.

(yes i ranted, im kinda wound up tight lately).


 
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Im pretty sure Canada could be energy independent if we wanted to. Except everyone wants our oil...

Do you know that Alberta, the NW territories, Nununavut, Yukon and BC all have oil reserves? Were just too lazy to open them up!

Russia is preparing military forces for northern regions of Arctica. Seems that our goverment wants to control those resources as fast as possible.
I heard somewhere on the web about New Russia policy "Who needs tanks when you have banks? But when you have both of them - you're one lucky guy"



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another person posting about the garbage the liberal media is throwing down your throught. we never went to war for oil. i havnt seen any oil tapped by americans since i have been here. not to mention if you remember the media was 1000% behind the war when it first started. the media is like a windsock. wich ever way the wind blows they go. if the public loves the war they will say the war is good and so forth to get rating up. if the war is bad thats all you see. why dont you try some other form of news like REAL SOLDIERS!

im tired of people saying we are dying for nothing when they cant even think like a soldier. would you give up some gas for a co-worker. soldiers would. if a co-worker was stuck in a burning building would you go back in even if you hated the person, we would. no, no soldier signs up and says we want to die. but we know going into a combat MOS, we are gonna go to war. and its a strong chance we will die. all you civs out their dont throw a soldiers name into your defense saying were dying for nothing. say what you mean. your a coward and dont want to finish what you started in the first place.

(yes i ranted, im kinda wound up tight lately).


No one said anything about the troops...

The matter of the fact is im 1000% against this war and want the troops back where they belong. At home and not fighting terrorists who would rather blow themselves up then stand and fight. I have always been against this war, yet I still support the troops (I know a soldier who's in afghanstan, he hates the sand, thats all I ever hear from him Frown ). So Cod, next time you see a hread on oil please read the posts before assumming that we were dissing the war effort and the troops. Thanks.




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Im pretty sure Canada could be energy independent if we wanted to. Except everyone wants our oil...

Do you know that Alberta, the NW territories, Nununavut, Yukon and BC all have oil reserves? Were just too lazy to open them up!

Russia is preparing military forces for northern regions of Arctica. Seems that our goverment wants to control those resources as fast as possible.
I heard somewhere on the web about New Russia policy "Who needs tanks when you have banks? But when you have both of them - you're one lucky guy"


I heard that too. Except you guys cant get it because if you do then you will get your ***'s kicked by NATO. Why dont you guys just buy it lik everyone else. Damn politicians. When lives become less important then money you know your a politician.




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Im pretty sure Canada could be energy independent if we wanted to. Except everyone wants our oil...

Do you know that Alberta, the NW territories, Nununavut, Yukon and BC all have oil reserves? Were just too lazy to open them up!

Russia is preparing military forces for northern regions of Arctica. Seems that our goverment wants to control those resources as fast as possible.
I heard somewhere on the web about New Russia policy "Who needs tanks when you have banks? But when you have both of them - you're one lucky guy"


I heard that too. Except you guys cant get it because if you do then you will get your ***'s kicked by NATO. Why dont you guys just buy it lik everyone else. Damn politicians. When lives become less important then money you know your a politician.


pfff hahahahahaha! Too Happy yeah right. NATO_ 1.They'll JUST SIT AND WATCH! What can they do about it and who asked them? Arctic region is not in NATOs competence. it's atlantic organization right? So I don't want to hear about it in Eastern-European, arctic or Asian Russian business.
2.Russian geologists have prove that Arctic territory Russia wants to take is actually a continue of our own sea shelf called "Lomonosov's edge"
3.about NATO "kicking our asses" again. If they'll pick up on Russian forces then there is going to a hell of a nuclear fire works in the world and you'll be glowing in the dark..oh wait - you woun't be. We'll be turned into a nuclear dust.
So fact is a fact. Russia is taking that region under it's control!
4.Buy it like everyone else? First of all who is bying Arctic shelfs? who? USA? Then who?
And the most important - FROM WHO? Is there a owner? no, there isn't. But after geological research it looks like we're won the lottery Twisted
5."When lives become less important then money you know your a politician." hmm...I don't think that should be adressed to Russia. Not us. somebody else. And you know who I'm talking about Shady



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BTW, cant Russia and NATO be friends already? Sad Eyes The cold war has been over for 17 years!



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BTW, cant Russia and NATO be friends already? Sad Eyes The cold war has been over for 17 years!

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hahaha nice one dynex. Just like all countries each one is developing its own issues. As everything happended in the past, right now all critics say, missile shield does not work, bla bla bla. they said the same thing about hitler when he was going to power, theys aid the same thing about England winning on their own. Just like China is striking deals all over the place because nobody says it out loud but they will run out of energy in 10 years time, if they dont have nearly the entier global supply to them...funny thing they dont invest in alternatives.

Russians are taking as much oil as they can being a producer to begin with.

Europe has begun to consolidate its power as an unified territory, and although a constitution was vetoed they will soon have a legislature of some sort which will do the same, and will have them one step further into the future mess we are getting into.

South america keeps calling Iran a friend, and US and its allies nothing but terrorists, and they keep messing around, unfortunately nobody an touch em due to their oil supply, and venezuela keeps thretening the US by cutting oil.

Of course the world community is laughing since venezuela's major buyers amongst china is the US. and eventually they wont be able to sell china cheap oil since they are so long away.

South america is now a pain in the foot nothing else, they depend on the panama's canal.

So in the end everyone is raising for their own future. China is desperate to keep appeareances but its crumbling slowly. Its demand for more oil is ever bigger.

Missile shield, will amaze alot of people leaving alot of questions to be asked.

Russia is having more oil by the second, to fuel itself.

and Finally my dream come true, middle east is slowly going back to its pre oil boom. TO a state where whoever talks to them is because they have pity, once oil runs out they'll go bye bye if not isolated.

bah to much BS I could go all day, Turkey keeps asking for EU to join bla bla, more to talk, lazy to type :P.

But to finish this BS. No country on earth when it stands out too much is good for it.
-Venezuela threatens to cut US oil supply, US woudl just cut them from the panaman canal, as well as isolating it, leaving it no richer than bolivia.... and that is real low.
-US has begun to turn its entire military on synthetic fuel, and its progressing at an incredible pace, probably having all its air force, on synthetics within 3-6, and all its vehicles maybe 8.
-Now that oil is running out, enviromental aspects are kicking in, and Russia trying to drill everywhere it can disregarding Nato, although they probably would not do anything to russia the economic implications for them would be disastrous. We already see how US is doing with so much trade going down....and is just because it has a little speed bump on economy, if you are realistic u can imagine what would happened to a country who is cut off on purpose.

SO we will see. everyone is racing for their own finish line.


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i cant stand oil companies and i cant stand all the people who think its the presidents fought for gas prices... the congress can kiss my ***... i am not trying to start up an argument, im just trying to show yall an important video that needs to be seen...


opps my fault i miss read your post lol. i actually like people who think like you.

anyway duke. were do you think we belong. over their back in the us or our home country. were instead of fighting on their soil and tearing up their land, we take me abuse from them and we fight them on our own soil. we belong were the fighting is. end of the story. nothing more nothing less. id take 10 years over seas fighting terroist or even for ever never to come home again, if it means men and women and children can go to schooland work and the playground with out having to worry if all their family will make it home. or if some nut will blow himself up in thir faces for no other reason then they dont belive what they want them to. thats how a soldier thinks.

(and sorry man i miss read the post lol thanks for catching me on it duke. you have no idea how often this comes up in convos with civs. im sorry for the rant guys)


 
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i cant stand oil companies and i cant stand all the people who think its the presidents fought for gas prices... the congress can kiss my ***... i am not trying to start up an argument, im just trying to show yall an important video that needs to be seen...


opps my fault i miss read your post lol. i actually like people who think like you.

anyway duke. were do you think we belong. over their back in the us or our home country. were instead of fighting on their soil and tearing up their land, we take me abuse from them and we fight them on our own soil. we belong were the fighting is. end of the story. nothing more nothing less. id take 10 years over seas fighting terroist or even for ever never to come home again, if it means men and women and children can go to schooland work and the playground with out having to worry if all their family will make it home. or if some nut will blow himself up in thir faces for no other reason then they dont belive what they want them to. thats how a soldier thinks.

(and sorry man i miss read the post lol thanks for catching me on it duke. you have no idea how often this comes up in convos with civs. im sorry for the rant guys)


I didnt mean you had to be home. Do you know that if the US diverted its war effort to Africa then Congo, Ethepia and all the other troubled countries would feel relief and thier countries might feel prosperty again? There are so many problems which the USA's armed forced can solve. Why dwell on this one issue? Let Isreal deal with its own enemies.

Oh and Spartas your right and wrong. The Middle East will probably die down a little but scertain countries will become stronger. Lebanon, Israel and Jordan will probably go back to thier pre-oil boom status. Lebanon was the Paris of the middle east for a really long time, or atleast until the civil war.

Isreal wont have to worry about Iran and all the money it gets from its oil.

Jordan will become a center of trade again.




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hahaha nice one dynex. Just like all countries each one is developing its own issues. As everything happended in the past, right now all critics say, missile shield does not work, bla bla bla. they said the same thing about hitler when he was going to power, theys aid the same thing about England winning on their own. Just like China is striking deals all over the place because nobody says it out loud but they will run out of energy in 10 years time, if they dont have nearly the entier global supply to them...funny thing they dont invest in alternatives.

Russians are taking as much oil as they can being a producer to begin with.

Europe has begun to consolidate its power as an unified territory, and although a constitution was vetoed they will soon have a legislature of some sort which will do the same, and will have them one step further into the future mess we are getting into.

South america keeps calling Iran a friend, and US and its allies nothing but terrorists, and they keep messing around, unfortunately nobody an touch em due to their oil supply, and venezuela keeps thretening the US by cutting oil.
the panama canal has been controlled entirely by panama for the last 10 years
Of course the world community is laughing since venezuela's major buyers amongst china is the US. and eventually they wont be able to sell china cheap oil since they are so long away.

South america is now a pain in the foot nothing else, they depend on the panama's canal.

So in the end everyone is raising for their own future. China is desperate to keep appeareances but its crumbling slowly. Its demand for more oil is ever bigger.china's economy has been increasing in strength rather steadily for the last few years, it hasnt really shown any signs of slowing down.

Missile shield, will amaze alot of people leaving alot of questions to be asked.

Russia is having more oil by the second, to fuel itself.

and Finally my dream come true, middle east is slowly going back to its pre oil boom. TO a state where whoever talks to them is because they have pity, once oil runs out they'll go bye bye if not isolated.most of the arab world is readying for the post oil days. the UAE, more specifically Dubai has become a huge tourist hotspot. They also are exanding into other businesses.

bah to much BS I could go all day, Turkey keeps asking for EU to join bla bla, more to talk, lazy to type :P.

But to finish this BS. No country on earth when it stands out too much is good for it.
-Venezuela threatens to cut US oil supply, US woudl just cut them from the panaman canal, as well as isolating it, leaving it no richer than bolivia.... and that is real low.again, the US has no control over the panama canal anymore
-US has begun to turn its entire military on synthetic fuel, and its progressing at an incredible pace, probably having all its air force, on synthetics within 3-6, and all its vehicles maybe 8.any source for this?
-Now that oil is running out, enviromental aspects are kicking in, and Russia trying to drill everywhere it can disregarding Nato, although they probably would not do anything to russia the economic implications for them would be disastrous. We already see how US is doing with so much trade going down....and is just because it has a little speed bump on economy, if you are realistic u can imagine what would happened to a country who is cut off on purpose.

SO we will see. everyone is racing for their own finish line.
 
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