Will they play any roll in this conflict.

No

There would be no pint of them being in it as most of the countrys are LEDCs and they do not have the resouces to fight againest the superpower. Also they quite isolated from the world so they would be no reason for them in the WWIII and that means that the countries are nuetral.

No South America will not be included in the first end war... Though they might be included for the sequal...

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Originally posted by moonknight92:
There would be no pint of them being in it...

Heh, pint.


But really, just 'cause. South America has no, "real," superpower in it.

Well, as of right now. Brazil is doing decently, if they can keep the hippies from rioting about their rainforests they'll be doing well in a decade or two. With some decent military expansion into the surrounding countries, I could see them as being a super power (U.K., Australia, ect.) but not a Hyper-power (the three factions in this game).

Brazil has the makings of a first world country, but thats where the dream ends. They are not a military power, political power, or economic power. No country is SA will be a Super Power unless they unite borders, but that's incredibly unlikely. Brazil has the economic disparity of 1990's Russia so until that disappears I think we can stop counting the days until Brazillian Dawn. (Or Rainbow Dawn)

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Originally posted by Locke_Watts:
Well, as of right now. Brazil is doing decently, if they can keep the hippies from rioting about their rainforests they'll be doing well in a decade or two. With some decent military expansion into the surrounding countries, I could see them as being a super power (U.K., Australia, ect.) but not a Hyper-power (the three factions in this game).

So Brazil burning 200 acres of rainforest a day is ok in the name of economic expansion? And military expansion? Brazil needs to get it's gang problems sorted out before it can do anything, the cartels basically run the country outside of Rio.

Im thinking that would make it more like a indians in the revelotionary war. Not a big help [ yes they did help a little but not a major ally]

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Originally posted by dmans13:
Will they play any roll in this conflict.

North Atlantic Theater...

What about venzula there not a superpower but thet have 1 billion spear barrels of oil the thing is its not clean oil

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Originally posted by DAFOC:
What about venzula there not a superpower but thet have 1 billion spear barrels of oil the thing is its not clean oil

Yeah, but the thing is it's only focused in the North Atlantic Theater.

AHHH we discussed this in a MAJOR topic long ago, about south america its problems, its issues, its roles.

Brazil, is liek Colombia, the only things it has under control are its cities, everything else is up for grabs to whomever has the bigger gun.
The problem with brazil, is its power source... in other words farms, you can protect oil rgs, or refineries, with AA guns, defences... how can you protect a countryside????, how can you defend, famrs long as the eye can see, from napalm, or stoping ti from burning down??? independance of energy of Brazil is costly, not on numbers, but on its ability to protect it, you drop a few fuel air bombs on the right spots, and all you do is watch the countryside burn.

The rest of the countries in south america besides, Venezuela and Colombia, have either, no military, very weak one, or one that still uses WW1 airplanes... not literally.

The only two countries that even come close to a military power down ins outh america is Venezuela and Colombia, Venezuela has the best Air force in South america.... although their planes are from 1970's, so they are way outdated... and nearly 40% are grounded because they cant afford the high costs of an air force.

Colombia has the best infantry in south america having nearly 50 yrs of civil war, and very updated infantry weapons. Tanks or aircraft are nearly non existent there.

Venezuela might ahave all the oil you might imagine, and they might say "we are big boom bad guys and we wont sell oil to US", newsflash is, the only ones who will buy the oil besides US, is China, Russia(barely). They are too far away, and it would just be FAR too expensive to sell the oil, with little or no profit, to just transport it all the way across the globe.

venezueal might be all high and mighty, but they rely too much on the Western hemisphere economically to do anythign different. They ever mention cutting supply to US, and US will either make a blockade...actually US should not even do a blockade, the fact alone they have to export it such high distances to china or its allies, is enough of an economic burden.

You might ask what of the Panama canal, u forget is under US control, if Venezuela ever gets the balls to cut supply to US, it can just cut Venezuelan exports through there.

The only advantage, and that is why the US doens't mess to uch with south america, is that the entire continent is just one big vietnam, jungle and jungle, and more jungle.

But also Venezuela has not whine too much about US, even though it does sometimes, because in South America, an airforce is nearly unexistent, but we can also argue, in a jungle, like in vietnam, an airforce is not so helpful.

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Originally posted by aznpwnerp:

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Originally posted by DAFOC:
What about venzula there not a superpower but thet have 1 billion spear barrels of oil the thing is its not clean oil

Yeah, but the thing is it's only focused in the North Atlantic Theater.

I know im not a newbie but you guys were saying that no country in SA had any place of importance

I think what they ment, to say is that based on the North Atlantic Theater, there they had little or no importance. Nearly all of the countries in south america, dont have a good navy, some have one but extremly outdated. Still the only two are Venezuela and Colombia, with like 2 submarines and couple of destroyers noothing else.

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The rest of the countries in south america besides, Venezuela and Colombia, have either, no military, very weak one, or one that still uses WW1 airplanes... not literally.

Not true, EVERY country in South America has a military, most of them are in decent shape, although indeed a bit small. And no air force in SA has anything close to a WW1 plane, there are a few that use modern propeller planes for CAS missions however.

South America has a lot of natural resources and trade with the global north for modern neccesities, who are usually much more industrialized. the countries in south america are also still developing.

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Originally posted by BTR74:

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The rest of the countries in south america besides, Venezuela and Colombia, have either, no military, very weak one, or one that still uses WW1 airplanes... not literally.

Not true, EVERY country in South America has a military, most of them are in decent shape, although indeed a bit small. And no air force in SA has anything close to a WW1 plane, there are a few that use modern propeller planes for CAS missions however.

Dont take it out of context, saying they have "no miltiary" ok not true, but I was born there, and took alot of time knowing most of the countries, and their militaries, are incredibly small, and if they have updated ones, they have never seen more than a gan street firefight. The only two that are actually considered to "have" a military are Brazil, venezuela, and Colombia.

Agagin with WW1, I dont mean that exacly, the most "modern" planes in south america, are from vietnam migs and are in possesion of Venezuela who has nearly half of it, grounded because they cant maintain them.

This game takes place in 2020... Brazil could of advanced into a superpower to that time. Who knows maybe they do take part in the game though im defintly sure they dont.