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hey i live clsoe to EGLIN AFB in NW Florida i live a good 20 miles from there but even on West wind ( coming our of the west) i can here the sounds of war, so far i can identify the 105 from the spooky gun ships, and 500lb and 1000lb bombs but some times they got bigger stuff i know the MOAB sounds like because it will shake the house but stuff that rattles the windows im not sure what that is maybe 2000lb bunker busters or something new but i heard storys from my dads freind who was a contractor with a building company they were hired to build 6 story building 4 above 2 below of 22in reinforced concrete took them 4 months for it was just floors no walls except for the bottom two they went out a month later and that thing was blown out of the ground on its side with a hole threw the middle it took them 2 months to break it up and haul it out of there.
 
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they was prob testing the new bunker buster type missle. it is supposed to go through the roof and blow the supports of the building and bring the top and the rest of it down. no matter how far down the structure goes.


 
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wouldn't doubt it at least i get to watch the F22 raptors now that they grounded most of the F-15's after a crash a while ago i also got to watch the osprey cruise around
 
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well a new weapons system. Alexander products brings us Beowulf. its a m4 platform that can fire a 50 cal bullet. all it takes is the changing if the upper reciver to the beouwulf upper reciver and then locking in the 10 round 50cal mag. looks just like an m4 till you fire it. it is supposed to help CQC soldiers. it only travels 200 yards after that it loses its effectiveness.

here is the liunk http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=354

another thing i saw on the future weapons site is the INTELLIGENT OPTICAL SYSTEM. i cant really find info on it but... its a rifle with a hunting digital scope on it. the scope is connected to a eye ppiece. the one big diffrenece is that the images stays vertical no matter how you hold the weapons. you can hold it upside down and still the picture in the opics will be vertical. also the display is transparent. so you can still see the target and you can look right through it.


 
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well a new weapons system. Alexander products brings us Beowulf. its a m4 platform that can fire a 50 cal bullet. all it takes is the changing if the upper reciver to the beouwulf upper reciver and then locking in the 10 round 50cal mag. looks just like an m4 till you fire it. it is supposed to help CQC soldiers. it only travels 200 yards after that it loses its effectiveness.

here is the liunk http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=354

another thing i saw on the future weapons site is the INTELLIGENT OPTICAL SYSTEM. i cant really find info on it but... its a rifle with a hunting digital scope on it. the scope is connected to a eye ppiece. the one big diffrenece is that the images stays vertical no matter how you hold the weapons. you can hold it upside down and still the picture in the opics will be vertical. also the display is transparent. so you can still see the target and you can look right through it.


Eek an M4 that fires .50 Cal rounds! The only thing is, i know .50 Cal rounds are big and all but if that gun has any sort of Full Auto setting (i doubt it would though do to the recoil) but saying it did, wouldnt you be reloading like ever couple of seconds? Also 200 yards to me seems like quite a distance (isnt that 600 feet?, i use the metric system Razz) but then again i have no military/ weapon statistic knowledge.

For that Digital Scope kind of thing, is it like a GR Cross-Com-esq display in the scope?? because that what it kind of sounds like from what you wrote, and to me that seems kind of useless, unless its showing you a map of the area/ where enemies are.


 
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Yes, that would be 600 feet, and in case it helps, 200 yards is a little over 180 meters.



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well a new weapons system. Alexander products brings us Beowulf. its a m4 platform that can fire a 50 cal bullet. all it takes is the changing if the upper reciver to the beouwulf upper reciver and then locking in the 10 round 50cal mag. looks just like an m4 till you fire it. it is supposed to help CQC soldiers. it only travels 200 yards after that it loses its effectiveness.

here is the liunk http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=354

another thing i saw on the future weapons site is the INTELLIGENT OPTICAL SYSTEM. i cant really find info on it but... its a rifle with a hunting digital scope on it. the scope is connected to a eye ppiece. the one big diffrenece is that the images stays vertical no matter how you hold the weapons. you can hold it upside down and still the picture in the opics will be vertical. also the display is transparent. so you can still see the target and you can look right through it.


Eek an M4 that fires .50 Cal rounds! The only thing is, i know .50 Cal rounds are big and all but if that gun has any sort of Full Auto setting (i doubt it would though do to the recoil) but saying it did, wouldnt you be reloading like ever couple of seconds? Also 200 yards to me seems like quite a distance (isnt that 600 feet?, i use the metric system Razz) but then again i have no military/ weapon statistic knowledge.

For that Digital Scope kind of thing, is it like a GR Cross-Com-esq display in the scope?? because that what it kind of sounds like from what you wrote, and to me that seems kind of useless, unless its showing you a map of the area/ where enemies are.


my bad. the hud shows the cross hairs from the gun scope.


 
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hey i live clsoe to EGLIN AFB in NW Florida i live a good 20 miles from there but even on West wind ( coming our of the west) i can here the sounds of war, so far i can identify the 105 from the spooky gun ships, and 500lb and 1000lb bombs but some times they got bigger stuff i know the MOAB sounds like because it will shake the house but stuff that rattles the windows im not sure what that is maybe 2000lb bunker busters or something new but i heard storys from my dads freind who was a contractor with a building company they were hired to build 6 story building 4 above 2 below of 22in reinforced concrete took them 4 months for it was just floors no walls except for the bottom two they went out a month later and that thing was blown out of the ground on its side with a hole threw the middle it took them 2 months to break it up and haul it out of there.


Im jealous.



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here is a link for the new body armor they have out to a few battalions in iraq... i cant wait to get my grubby little paws on it

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,164670,00.html

and yes it does have shoulder plates....... sweet huh. to bad it make them heat rashes worse.... i hate them damn things.. looks like i been slapped in the chest a few thousand times.

also a look at the armor chassi,..... it looks cool and all but i really want them to add shoulder armor

http://www.cryeprecision.com/product1.asp?P=C04


 
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http://www.ohb-system.de/gb/pdf/sar-lupe-broschure.pdf

PDF in English & German on the Germans new SAR-LUPE recon sat system it'll work hand in hand with the Helios image sat and the Italian COSMED system.
 
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remember in the book how every military force in the JSF was connected and could talk to one another and even the pres could talk to you.... well here is a link to exactly that the military is working on along with a private company... now i get to see/hear jar heads in my ear all day... yay lol

http://www.military.com/news/article/pentagon-upgrading-radio-systems.html


 
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well a new weapons system. Alexander products brings us Beowulf. its a m4 platform that can fire a 50 cal bullet. all it takes is the changing if the upper reciver to the beouwulf upper reciver and then locking in the 10 round 50cal mag. looks just like an m4 till you fire it. it is supposed to help CQC soldiers. it only travels 200 yards after that it loses its effectiveness.

here is the liunk http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=354

another thing i saw on the future weapons site is the INTELLIGENT OPTICAL SYSTEM. i cant really find info on it but... its a rifle with a hunting digital scope on it. the scope is connected to a eye ppiece. the one big diffrenece is that the images stays vertical no matter how you hold the weapons. you can hold it upside down and still the picture in the opics will be vertical. also the display is transparent. so you can still see the target and you can look right through it.


Eek an M4 that fires .50 Cal rounds! The only thing is, i know .50 Cal rounds are big and all but if that gun has any sort of Full Auto setting (i doubt it would though do to the recoil) but saying it did, wouldnt you be reloading like ever couple of seconds? Also 200 yards to me seems like quite a distance (isnt that 600 feet?, i use the metric system Razz) but then again i have no military/ weapon statistic knowledge.

For that Digital Scope kind of thing, is it like a GR Cross-Com-esq display in the scope?? because that what it kind of sounds like from what you wrote, and to me that seems kind of useless, unless its showing you a map of the area/ where enemies are.


my bad. the hud shows the cross hairs from the gun scope.


That makes more sense to me.


 
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What about metal storm??? www.youtube.com/watch?v=jem4dXdlSII bow
 
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Great stuff guys.

I don't think many will argue that the US doesn't have some really wild military research projects in the hopes of keeping or seeking a military lead.

Take this for example: http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/03/for-years-now-p.html


I went to the DARPA conference last year that was held in Anaheim and heard the scientist who was working on this program: cybernetic insects with the hope of using a biomechanical creature for recon and sensing.

far out stuff Surprised



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What is that supposed to represent?

Another example of advanced US sensor technology: a 3-D map that will give US soldiers an almost X-ray vision view of the building layout and the potential enemy combatants in that building.

Courtesy of the UK division of General Dynamics a US firm.

"It might sound like science fiction to some, but Thomas said that by using 3-D through-the-wall radar, thermal imaging and X-ray backscatter, you can fuse data to create a picture of a building's external and internal structures, as well as detect objects and people inside.

"LIDAR is the canvas on which you can build through-the-wall technologies and other capabilities. We have shown it can be done," Thomas said.

The LIDAR sensor will give millimeter-accurate measurements of things like windows, doorways and alleyways in 3-D.

Everything within the range of the sensors is mapped. Every dot in the image is effectively a reference point and the information is accurate enough to be used for precision targeting of weapons.

Masthead can be carried in the back of a covert civilian 4x4 with only minor modifications, or bolted into the back of a military vehicle. It can also be used in a static, dismounted role."

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3453165&c=EUR&s=TOP

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I have to call defence news up on that AT, that isn't actually
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Another example of advanced US sensor technology:
it's that Brit's, it's funded and sourced from GD UK and is infact under a British export regulation,infact the first 2 countries to look at it were the UK and Germany.
 
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This is a few months ago but the Swedes tested their prototype hypersonic missile from launch
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Five times faster than the speed of sound

Saab has developed and, in an advanced test, launched three hypersonic missiles to demonstrate how these can be designed for controlled flight at extreme speeds.


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The missile was test launched at a maximum velocity exceeding Mach 5.5 and successfully demonstrated that it is possible to manoeuvre a missile at hypersonic speed. Photo by Anders Åberg, Rymdbolaget.

Moreover, the test successfully shows how a missile can be designed regarding materials, aerodynamics and guidance systems to enable controlled flight at hypersonic speeds.

“Once again Sweden and Saab have shown that we are at the leading edge. We are the first to demonstrate that it is possible to manoeuvre a missile at these enormous speeds”, says Sören Wigren, program manager at Saab Bofors Dynamics.

More difficult to oppose

In the first two test launches the missile’s capacity for lateral manoeuvring and the ability to fly without rotating around its own axis were demonstrated. At the third launch the missile was guided on a programmed flight path.

A manoeuvrable missile fired at hypersonic speeds is difficult to oppose. The speed means that reaction times are minimal and the missile’s hit ratio increases. At the same time the enormous speed means that it can be used against armoured targets.

A significant technological challenge
The experimental missile is a technology demonstrator that allows the study of the phenomena that occur during the test firing and the investigation of possible technical solutions for so called hypersonic missiles. Designing missiles for the phenomena that occur at such extreme speeds is a considerable challenge. The wind’s forces on fuselage and wings give unpredictable deflections. There is also significant heating resulting from the friction with the air.
http://www.saabgroup.com/en/MediaRel...d_of_sound.htm



This is part of a continuing series of hypersonic missile programmes Sweden and Germany have been carring out together, the French want in now as do several others due to how well it seems to be going...let's hope it is.
 
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There is alos the German HFK hypersonic missile programme.
 
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Ok, so that missile is cool, but it doesn't come near the capabilities of a scramjet missile/plane. Granted, they have yet to prove that a scramjet enabled rocket/plane will be more desired, but considering the possibilities of travel to any destination in the world within 90minutes, that short timeframe could substantially outweigh any disadvantages.

Wiki article HERE

This article is fairly close to the one that I read from a magazine (popular science or mechanics, I would confirm but I seem to have lost the magazine). But from what I have read, there have been multiple prototypes that worked, but they still have not made an efficient missile/plane yet. I'm sure that with a little help from material research(manipulating a materials basic molecular structure to make it stronger, lighter, and more durable) that more efficient prototypes could be popping up by 2020. I'm sure that a squadron of transport scramjets would be much more cost efficient than the space program the JSF plans to launch.

Instead of having a limited number of troops, the number would only be limited by scramjets available(more could easily be made) and their carrying capacity......possibly adding the ability to transport heavy armor. As the article states, there are many programs in multiple governments trying to create a more efficient scramjet engine/vessel because of the potential.

I don't even think that there are missiles out there capable of "catching" up to something traveling mach 15..... or even mach 5-9(the speed needed to "fire-up" the scramjet engine). I would definitely file this under cool tech.


 
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I am disappointed by the sheer lack of pew pew lazors! Sad

Can anyone direct me towards something that fits the bill?




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