What's the best new faction for Endwar 2?

Question:
What's the best new faction for Endwar 2?

Choices:
New Commonwealth
Las Trinadad (From Tom Clancy's HAWX)
China
Communist Alliance (China,N.Korea,Vietnam,Laos,Cambodia,Napal,Myanmar)
India
Muslim Superstate
Arab League
African Union
Other (Please state)

 

NC, LT and China.


More factions = More fun

NC + China. Never played HAWX so i havent got a clue about Las Trinidad. Maybe India if it pulled its act together, or was part of NC.

I dont think Muslim superstate would happen cos they all hate each other, and africas too weak.

Africa so we have alot more places to battle in.

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Originally posted by Chevre1294:
Africa so we have alot more places to battle in.

Well if they opened up the U.S west coast and eastern Russia and then if Europe got all the terrortories it has in real life then we would get loads of new maps.

plus a new faction helps

NC and China. Those 2 countries make the most sense. As for the NC it already makes no sense as to why they are sitting back and watching as both Canada and the UK are major allies to MANY countries in Europe and with the States. And china is a major ally with Russia. So having either of this factions sitting back and not helping out makes little sense.

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Originally posted by Inquisitor_Zeal:
NC and China. Those 2 countries make the most sense. As for the NC it already makes no sense as to why they are sitting back and watching as both Canada and the UK are major allies to MANY countries in Europe and with the States. And china is a major ally with Russia. So having either of this factions sitting back and not helping out makes little sense.

What? That's a very good reason for them to remain neutral.

And in a scenario like endwar's I doubt very much china and russia would be "allies", if they can even be called that today.

As for the ones in the OPs list:
New Commonwealth-see above
Las Trinadad-They had to hire a private army to defend against a neighbor, how are they supposed to fight a world war?
China-Will never happen while the studio is located there
Communist Alliance-see above (China,N.Korea,Vietnam,Laos,Cambodia,Napal,Myanmar)
India-aren't they supposed to be a part of that "new common wealth"?
Muslim Superstate-Two of the biggest nations already destroyed themselves in a nuclear war
Arab League-see above
African Union-would never have the technological level to fight a world war, besides from the tiny tidbits of story in the current endwar you can see the EU is heavily invovled in the continent.

That's true Benito, I wonder why the west coast wasn't used in endwar 1. I mean ofcourse Russia will attack there.

New Commonwealth problems

1: It would be to spead out on the world map to be workable.
2: It's capital would be London which is right next door to Paris so wars could be over within just afew turns.
3: Theres been no talk of a New Commonwealth that I'm aware of and I doubt that by 2020 this superstate could be formed.
4: The current Commonwealth is not that big a deal anyway.
5: Most Commonwealth countries are moving toward greater independence. (Australia,Canada,New Zealand to name afew)
6: It's just the British Empire under a new name.
7: Britain and the Republic of Ireland would most likely join the EF (More so now the Lisbon Treaty has been finalised)
8: Other European nations have Commonwealths why didn't they turn into superstates?.

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Originally posted by BenitoFinito:
New Commonwealth problems

1: It would be to spead out on the world map to be workable.
2: It's capital would be London which is right next door to Paris so wars could be over within just afew turns.
3: Theres been no talk of a New Commonwealth that I'm aware of and I doubt that by 2020 this superstate could be formed.
4: The current Commonwealth is not that big a deal anyway.
5: Most Commonwealth countries are moving toward greater independence. (Australia,Canada,New Zealand to name afew)
6: It's just the British Empire under a new name.
7: Britain and the Republic of Ireland would most likely join the EF (More so now the Lisbon Treaty has been finalised)
8: Other European nations have Commonwealths why didn't they turn into superstates?.

Your an idiot.

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Originally posted by BenitoFinito:
New Commonwealth problems

I agree, youre an idiot. But heres why.

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1: It would be to spead out on the world map to be workable.

Unless ubisoft goes global with the game it need only be active in one theatre. And it would probably be neutral with europe or US or both.

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2: It's capital would be London which is right next door to Paris so wars could be over within just afew turns.

See above. Also it could be made so that the channel is not crossable.

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3: Theres been no talk of a New Commonwealth that I'm aware of and I doubt that by 2020 this superstate could be formed.

You think by 2020 the european union could federate and create a standard military? Its unlikely there will even be new strike aircraft by 2020, unless they started working on it over 5 years ago. In any case the in game NC was formed in response to in game events that havent happened in real life. Its fictional.

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4: The current Commonwealth is not that big a deal anyway.

Russia is not that big a deal either, at the moment. The UK alone has a higher GDP than Russia (as does Germany France and Italy, and theyre all bunched together). The UK, Australia and Canada have a higher GDP than China currently. The NC would have a bucketload of resources, including the second largest known oil reserve in canada (several times larger than Russia's, though in shale), more LNG than we know what to do with in Australia, more than half the worlds uranium between us, etc etc. All in a fictional resource-starved world.

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5: Most Commonwealth countries are moving toward greater independence. (Australia,Canada,New Zealand to name afew)

We're already independent, the issue now is whether we wish to keep the queen or not. We dont want out of the commonwealth.

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6: It's just the British Empire under a new name.

So?

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7: Britain and the Republic of Ireland would most likely join the EF (More so now the Lisbon Treaty has been finalised)

Its already been said that they joined the NC not EF, this makes no sense as an argument against NC.

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8: Other European nations have Commonwealths why didn't they turn into superstates?.

Cos theirs are ****-poor. Who's France got, Ivory Coast?

Reply to superkrait

2: Not crossable now whos stupid.
4: Russia not a big deal thats why they feature in countless games,films,books and Endwar as a force to be reckoned with.
5: I said greater independence meaning no involement from the commonwealth d!p$hit.
6: So it's cheap and nasty like your mum.
7: I'm saying it's unrealistic
8: Who's France got check this link

Hey big man I'm coming to Australia in the new year for the MMA convention how about you come talk that BS to my face?

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Originally posted by BenitoFinito:
4: Russia not a big deal thats why they feature in countless games,films,books and Endwar as a force to be reckoned with.

Wow. Dumbest comment ever. Your claiming that Russia is a big deal because they are featured in the entertainment industry... Really? What, besides their recent invasion of Georgia, have you heard about them?

The only reason they are featured in entertainment is because of what they use to be; Cold War, Soviet Union, and all that. Not because Russia is a superpower, they are a nuclear power, but not a superpower. There is a difference.

By your logic Nazi Germany is a big deal since they are featured in countless games and films. But there aren't are they?

Benito...

4. Superkrait never said that Russia was unimportant... he said that the NC would be better able to support a war effort then the Russians because they have more access to important resources, mainly OIL, which Russia does not have huge amount of.

Also they're the enemies always because they were Communists and Communists are ALWAYS seen as the bad guys... they are also badly portrayed because of WW2 were they were brutal fighters and thats followed through.

5. You know many of the countries under the NC title are only still connected because they still want to have ties to the Queen/ Royalty right? Thats it. We dont have to send over requests to the UK to see if things can get passed over her in Canada... We are totally independent we just still have our ties to the Queen and such.

7. Ummmm the reason could be is because they are very close allies to many countries in the Europe AND the states... so joining the EF would cause them to instantly loose ties with a Major Superpower in the world & potentially another ally later on.

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Originally posted by Angry_Toaster:

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Originally posted by BenitoFinito:
4: Russia not a big deal thats why they feature in countless games,films,books and Endwar as a force to be reckoned with.

Wow. Dumbest comment ever. Your claiming that Russia is a big deal because they are featured in the entertainment industry... Really? What, besides their recent invasion of Georgia, have you heard about them?

The only reason they are featured in entertainment is because of what they use to be; Cold War, Soviet Union, and all that. Not because Russia is a superpower, they are a nuclear power, but not a superpower. There is a difference.

By your logic Nazi Germany is a big deal since they are featured in countless games and films. But there aren't are they?

You took my post to littrely

Russia is a world power if you think other wise your a pr!ck.

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Originally posted by BenitoFinito:
You took my post to littrely

Russia is a world power if you think other wise your a pr!ck.

Your an idiot.

Russia is powerful but not a world power. Nuclear Weapons =/= Power

Russia has a nuclear arsenal and oil. Thats about it.

Finito has a point and one which i back fully,(bar his insults)- the NC as a fighting faction is just as farfecthed as most of the other factions on there. i'm not totally against the idea, but the fact that the NC nations, specifically UK and Ireland opted to "allow" the EF to defend their uplinks speaks volumes about what the Dev's thought.

In a cirsis on the scale endwar puts forward Australia would look towards friendly EA nations and america, canada america and europe and the UK mainly Europe. even now these are where they look now economically, militarily etc, benito is right to point out the commonwealth is becoming more and more an irrelivance.

@ inquisitor no.7 And leaving the EU and attempting to form a competing power woudln't damage realtions between the new superstate across the channel? you've not only rejected their values but effectively set yourself up as an untrustworthy partener, in the nevermind the havoc it would wreak on our economy.
that said If they where to go down the UK independace route it would give the US and EF a reason to go to war against each other.

@nukes and Russia
it's the only reason they still get a seat round the international table; if you have enough nukes and shout people will listen to you

^^ Thing is though, whether we think its realistic or not, we know the NC exists in the storyline. Theres enough reasons for the devs to have UK, Aus and Canada stay out of a war between the US and Europe without creating a new alliance/faction for them. But they did. They never explained the exact nature of the NC (political union, alliance?) but its obviously different from the current commonwealth or thered be no point mentioning it. But no, I can't explain EF holding their uplinks.


As for benito... i think the rest of your post is covered already.

2: You. One does not simply paddle across the english channel when youre at war with the country on the other side. In any case neither Washington or Paris are accessible by sea, doesn’t that strike you as strange?
6: Your crude insult suggests you understand how pathetic that point of yours was.
7: Unrealistic? That horse has bolted. You think Europe can both federate and develop laser-equipped attack satellites within 10 years? Takes longer than that to develop a fighter or destroyer. Think Russia can catch up to the US with a few petro dollars? In any case, as i said above theres no point arguing it... unless the devs do a backflip the UK and Ireland are not in the EF, they are in the NC.
8: Did you even read the countries on that list? Equatorial guinea? Gabon? Ivory Coast? I stand by my '****-poor' judgement.

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Hey big man I'm coming to Australia in the new year for the MMA convention how about you come talk that BS to my face?

Sorry, but drilling through my tongue sounds more interesting than meeting you.

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Originally posted by superkrait:
^^ Thing is though, whether we think its realistic or not, we know the NC exists in the storyline. Theres enough reasons for the devs to have UK, Aus and Canada stay out of a war between the US and Europe without creating a new alliance/faction for them. But they did. They never explained the exact nature of the NC (political union, alliance?) but its obviously different from the current commonwealth or thered be no point mentioning it. But no, I can't explain EF holding their uplinks.

TBH i think the commonwealth was just a hangover from what they expected to pull off originally. maybe they where just covering loose ends in the final product by throwing the British isles in with the rest of the EF.

In my personal oppinion i think a independant britain would be an excellent posible flash point between a Federated Europe and America. with America refusing to leave bases within the UK seeing them as a safeguard from a possible hostile power and Europe seeing it as and infringement on it's soverignty. w

Canada almost certainly another, the Europeans (mainly france) looking out for Qubec, possibly even attmeping to bully canada into relinquishing ownership while america concerned with stability and the effect it may have on the Canadaian oil feilds (lets throw a major owner being a Quebec based company) even if this wasn't the case i doubt america would torate a neutral canada, it would more than likely be "liberated" by america if it came down to it; I can't see them allowing the canadians to which effecively trade with thier rivals without consequence.