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Maybe, but there is no question that by this point there shouldn't be any more huge bugs like there are and ToW should at least be running semi smoothly, not advancing slightly every 10+ turns while we're stuck on the same maps over and over. Their actions up to being pulled have been unimpressive, and their failure to support the game and it decaying far to quickly as a result probably has a lot to do with them being "pulled". God help whatever game they are assigned to next...and let's pray a different studio makes endwar 2, or they at the very least get their asses in gear, they can MAKE a great game but past that... That being said I don't agree with Tolarius...yes this game has been extremely frustrating but the fact that you are here now tells that you still enjoyed it as I have. Although I don't think I will buy a game at release from this studio again, will see if their support improves at all. |
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Well said b4721.
I also play Killzone 2 and had a look at their forums today. Check out this for a patch : http://www.killzone.com/kz/_ns...TXpZPT0_/forums.psml And that's 1 of several they've issued since a release just a couple of months ago. That's how you support a game Ubisoft! And they charged the same amount of money you did when you released. I will always think twice before buying another Ubisoft game after this experience. This is about the worst support I've ever received for any software I've bought in my life. The most annoying part of it is I enjoy playing Endwar more than all my other games. I just always expected them to fill the gaping holes in the product with patches. Outrageous. |
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I could have bought LBP instead
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actually ive played endwar only once in the last 3 months. ive been playing an actually well made rts, WiC. this is the devs fault for promising so much and keeping that lie so that people would buy the game. they also have a ****ing holiday every ****ing time that there is a major problem. and how can you develop a multiplayer focused game when the studio doesnt even have access to multiplayer. this is the worst support i have ever seen for a game. even treyarch, the weaker of the CoD teams, has better customer relations. and CA is constantly working to improve the new total war and the developers themselves come on the forums to talk directly to the customers. the endwar devs have no excuse because they HAVE to have some internet access even if they cant use it for the game. it take 10 minutes to go on the forum look around a bit and make a few posts. i will most likely not buy the next endwar, if there is one, unless its made by a different dev team that has expirience. if i thought there was even the slightest chance for success, i would start a petition to have all the devs in shanghai fired and the studio shut down so that money could be redirected to a decent studio. Gamertag: Upcore |
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agian tho, its not really the devs fault. its the hirger ups fault. its their bosses. when endwar didnt sell enough copies to begin with, they started pulling people off the support team. i wouldnt be surprised if there had only been 5-6 support members left since the first 1-2 months. it would be dificult to make a working patch in a decent amount of time with only a fraction of the resources that you would normaly have. with fewer members left on their team it would be FAR more dificult to get alot of things done within their deadline. IMO the devs are just as much a victim of this crap as we are. i simply do not wish to see the wrong people being blamed. it is the corporate heads that should be blamed, not the devs. but as ive said many times, if UBI were to simply give out info often, their support would not seem anywhere near as bad as it does lol. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ A good person does not demand something of others and then become angry at them when the task is not completed as fast as they would like, when they themselves cannot do any better. |
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This game's not bad, despite the glitches it's actually quite good. Ubisoft should have done a media blitz with actual gameplay to get the sales they wanted. Even a crappy game can sell if its got good advertising. __________________________ "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron." ~Dwight D. Eisenhower, speech, American Society of Newspaper Editors, 16 April 1953 |
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agreed. however, it could have been much better. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ A good person does not demand something of others and then become angry at them when the task is not completed as fast as they would like, when they themselves cannot do any better. |
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That's a assumption, and even right after release the customer service was rather unimpressive. Even if it that were the case it doesn't explains why not a single dev can keep us updated atleast semi often with real info on what thye were doing, taking that fact into account I am going to assume the studio just isn't up to the task of supporting a multiplayer game like endwar. Now perhaps if they told us that they were working with less people to finish tasks it would be another story, but they say nothing asnd do almost nothing of worth. |
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lol as ive said, the problem is that they dont give out info. thats what really hurts them and makes them look bad ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ A good person does not demand something of others and then become angry at them when the task is not completed as fast as they would like, when they themselves cannot do any better. |
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HAHA while I do love EndWar I have to agree Gurrila Games care about their coustermers. They're already releasing DLC |
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I love EndWar I wish I could actually win a game to get money to upgrade I hate getting killed by someone who already has all the upgrades |
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This isnt really news.
Ubi gave up on this game months ago. Theyre just now telling us. Theyre even trying to shut down the forums, It's the reason they lock as many threads as possible. We can only hope and pray for an Endwar II. |
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guys, get a hold of yourselves! do you really think EndWar 2 is going to be any better than this!?
so much for my 24-page buglist well, here's how it works Ubisoft abandoned EndWar? Then I will abandon Ubisoft. you can take this back to your superiors in France, Shanghai no...more...Ubisoft, and that means I'm not getting Splinter Cell: Conviction you left us behind, twice? then i'm leaving you behind. -- EA Apologizes Ubisoft Shanghai's Mailing Address Shanghai (Studio) 13F & 15F, The Center 989 Chang Le Road Shanghai 200031 Tel: +86 21 5407 5666 Fax: +86 21 5407 5156 |
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I know how that feels. __________________________ "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron." ~Dwight D. Eisenhower, speech, American Society of Newspaper Editors, 16 April 1953 |
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ya know you and a bunch of others have been saying that for a while lol. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ A good person does not demand something of others and then become angry at them when the task is not completed as fast as they would like, when they themselves cannot do any better. |
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Yeah, like Ubisoft cares if their leaving, there's still thousands more people buying their games and making them money. __________________________ "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron." ~Dwight D. Eisenhower, speech, American Society of Newspaper Editors, 16 April 1953 |
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exactly, anytime someone gets upset and says im going somewhere else, people generaly laugh. im taking my money to t-mobile. LOL ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ A good person does not demand something of others and then become angry at them when the task is not completed as fast as they would like, when they themselves cannot do any better. |
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Talk about not taking pride in your work...
Heads should be held low Ubisoft, what a pathethic performance. never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake-Victory belongs to the most persevering-Take time to deliberate, but when time for action has arrived,stop thinking and go in- One of the forefathers of the EF,Napoleon Bonaparte. |
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There will eventually come a time when enough players are sickened to affect their sales, and hopefully then they will raise their hiring standards.
Unfortunately ubisoft will have the advertising budget to keep up with the dissatisfied customers and customers turned away by word of mouth for a long time. |
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I agree that this is slack.
Honestly though, I'm HOPING the team who've been taken off of Endwar support are going to be working on Endwar 2. They've now seen the way this game functions online, and have been trying to find ways to compensate for them. Who knows, they may even have started succeeding recently? But anyway, firing and starting over is a great way to get a fresh team with even LESS experience in a very rare variant of a popular genre. This style of RTS is AWESOME, and while flawed, Endwar IS A GOOD GAME. With some work, it could be great. If this team is doing a sequel, I'll be trying it out at the very least. Of course, I play games for their singleplayer experience, and consider multiplayer an added bonus (Except, of course, for Warhawk). ----- V^^^V ----- I want my meals to think for myself. |
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