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Too bad that would never happen.
 
Posts: 423 | Registered: Fri May 25 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Originally posted by ALIFZAB:
Could you imagine the federation of Asian and Pacific States? Hammer Australia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, India, Phillipines, China, Korea and Japan, all moulded into one superpower. Ah, what a dream... Demonic

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Too bad that would never happen.
Not true? I'm not to sure about that. Australia can pretty much be considered a part of South East Asia and has close trade and military ties with SEA as well. Just look at Australia's and NZ s part in ASEAN, APEC and the Cairns Group.
 
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So after all that, all we've been through why aren't we even mentioned as a blip in Endwar?

Cause you're not in the North Atlantic. Razz



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If you read a post I made called the "missile shield defense" it explains some of the actions that the austrlians have taken already to step up into a militarize nation.

Australia is already discussing to give 150-200 million for more research and implementaion of the f35 in return to be getting the plain as well.

of course all this upgrading has been done majorly in the dark without much publicity.

Since the 1980 when Australia realise its nation's army was only a defensive one, simply ebcause its navy and airforce were not equiped trained nor had the capability to deploy troops anywhere in the world for long periods of time, and extremly hard to deploy them for even just a short period.

It started to leave more the British side and began to negotiate American Official to see the reconstruction of the army, much like any other nation, with its own diff branches, although its implementation shows much signs of American military.

As a show that they will soon beecome the major power in the Indian Sea and around thsoe parts the Australians were the second to arrive to myanmar with their naval force, they also took the long route to get there, getting quite close to chinese waters, which has made the chinese stayed quiet on some issues since then.

Australia has repeadetely stated that for the future it needs to be able to deploy its troops, to be able to help in other places, and thus it is soon to get two carriers. By 2012.

On that same side of the world:

China is currently building 2-3 Very light aircraft carriers. Which the plans were taken from an aircraft carrier as old as the soviet union.
CHina bought this decaying aircraft carrier from Ukraine, thinking of making if a floating Casino, but it was commong knowledge that it wasnow being changed to be made operational. With what Australia pulled off, it now does not gives any specifics accepts no questions and lets not many close to it.

Russia has only one in duty, and is not regarded as sea worthy since is now becoming updated. They are building a dock capable of displacing the enourmous 100,000 tons in Severodvinsk. They stated that they need 3-4 carriers to meet their demands. But due to recent problems regarding them they will not be able to build the innitially thought was goign to be like the US 50+ aircraft on board.

India has 1 or 2, I cant seem to find a good site for them. But I know they bought another outdated Soviet Carrier to be refitted, they had problems last year....But I have no idea since then.

US also facing the PAcific, I cannot seem tor ecall how many carriers the US fleet holds there.
With the Keneddy I think last year, it already has a new on on the process, and steps away from order 7-8 more medium carriers ;either 1 every 3 years, or 1 every 4. Why they plan so many, because with time carriers will go into decommission so this is to keep the same strength bla bla bla, red tape bs.

Lastly, Austrlian officials in Canada have talked to Canadian and US representatives, and multiple times have AUstralian representatives have made jokes about if a "north american union is in place, that Australia would be amongst the first to join."
This is just jokes so nothing is in specific.


Lastly to comment on my opinion:
Australia is ever more close to being in an active role, and multiple times have demonstrated that they will aid in US affairs if something arose in the pacific.


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Originally posted by Spartas-Julius:
If you read a post I made called the "missile shield defense" it explains some of the actions that the austrlians have taken already to step up into a militarize nation.

Australia is already discussing to give 150-200 million for more research and implementaion of the f35 in return to be getting the plain as well.

of course all this upgrading has been done majorly in the dark without much publicity.

Since the 1980 when Australia realise its nation's army was only a defensive one, simply ebcause its navy and airforce were not equiped trained nor had the capability to deploy troops anywhere in the world for long periods of time, and extremly hard to deploy them for even just a short period.

It started to leave more the British side and began to negotiate American Official to see the reconstruction of the army, much like any other nation, with its own diff branches, although its implementation shows much signs of American military.

As a show that they will soon beecome the major power in the Indian Sea and around thsoe parts the Australians were the second to arrive to myanmar with their naval force, they also took the long route to get there, getting quite close to chinese waters, which has made the chinese stayed quiet on some issues since then.

Australia has repeadetely stated that for the future it needs to be able to deploy its troops, to be able to help in other places, and thus it is soon to get two carriers. By 2012.

On that same side of the world:

China is currently building 2-3 Very light aircraft carriers. Which the plans were taken from an aircraft carrier as old as the soviet union.
CHina bought this decaying aircraft carrier from Ukraine, thinking of making if a floating Casino, but it was commong knowledge that it wasnow being changed to be made operational. With what Australia pulled off, it now does not gives any specifics accepts no questions and lets not many close to it.

Russia has only one in duty, and is not regarded as sea worthy since is now becoming updated. They are building a dock capable of displacing the enourmous 100,000 tons in Severodvinsk. They stated that they need 3-4 carriers to meet their demands. But due to recent problems regarding them they will not be able to build the innitially thought was goign to be like the US 50+ aircraft on board.

India has 1 or 2, I cant seem to find a good site for them. But I know they bought another outdated Soviet Carrier to be refitted, they had problems last year....But I have no idea since then.

US also facing the PAcific, I cannot seem tor ecall how many carriers the US fleet holds there.
With the Keneddy I think last year, it already has a new on on the process, and steps away from order 7-8 more medium carriers ;either 1 every 3 years, or 1 every 4. Why they plan so many, because with time carriers will go into decommission so this is to keep the same strength bla bla bla, red tape bs.

Lastly, Austrlian officials in Canada have talked to Canadian and US representatives, and multiple times have AUstralian representatives have made jokes about if a "north american union is in place, that Australia would be amongst the first to join."
This is just jokes so nothing is in specific.


Lastly to comment on my opinion:
Australia is ever more close to being in an active role, and multiple times have demonstrated that they will aid in US affairs if something arose in the pacific.


Dang man you do your research dont ya!




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Well I like to be informed since I am gona join one of the branches, it now goes down to the Air force or the ARmy.

But yeah :P, that is why I asked myself when this game said EU as a military superpower......where did it got the planes? ships?, manpower it has....The money to build em...? satellites.....laser technology......I mean is a freacking ION CANNON lol. But wth :P.


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^^^Actually, some of the richest nations are European. And with that money, they could research some pretty advanced stuff. But I agree, it probably wouldn't be in action in 2020, and that orbital laser are ridiculous.


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Posts: 164 | Registered: Fri March 28 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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it would be a good idea for Ubisoft to release a Australasian or Commonwealth expansion, it would get more sales and get all those people who are sick of choosing either America or a country in Europe in a game. Also, i agree with the first topic raised by vyper, the ANZAC (Australian and New Zealand Army Corp) forces suffered a great loss at gallipoli but they also did the best they can and boy was it good. They got about 4km from the beach (which was better than the brits further up the coast) and they performed some of the bravest, almost idiotic, suicidal charges that made the reputation of the ANZAC troops. I also hope that if they do make an expansion with Australasia in it that they should not forget New Zealand. Although im Australian (and yes, i AM sticking up for New ZealandSmile) i never hear New Zealand mentioned in anything.
 
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^^^Actually, some of the richest nations are European. And with that money, they could research some pretty advanced stuff. But I agree, it probably wouldn't be in action in 2020, and that orbital laser are ridiculous.


They are amongst richest nations because they dont spend alot on its people, when I lived in Europe for 4 yrs, and Studied it, the percentage of real state, or factories, or investment on countries infrastructure is not very big. So it has a huge surplus becasue of it. So in other words if it was to go superpower, it woudl have to decide, infrastructure for research, or infrastructure for production.

Still yes we both agree, the laser is just I mean the US is on lead on laser technology , to be implemented on effective combat levels.

but the game required like chromehounds 3 factions, so I guess they figured, lets change history and give alot of technology the US has to Europe to level things out.


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It is true that Australia is a very militarily built nation, they are somewhat a bit... how should i say this, frightened? Scared. They were all but annihilated in WW2, and they don't want the same thing to happen again. However it is true that we are good friends to them, they will most likely be featured in End War 2
 
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Well, fear produced some of the greatest soldier in history. Spartans, Persians, the very US civil war was based on the fear of having more of the empire's taxes on the colonies, but like there is a quote "there is no shame in fear, shame in letting it rule you" and I can tell you, Australians might be afriad of having WW2 effects again, but I am sure as hell by being afraid of not having history repeat itself, they'll blow any navy in the asian sea area to avoid it lol....even the little coast guard the chinese call a navy :P. SO YEAH, if FEAR is the factor for production then hell GO AUSTRALIA.

PS: US is now in a state of fear, over not being able to control their future, economy etc, look at them now, investments on alternatives, we got two idiots running fro presidency....at least the old idiot is less of an idiot coz he is so old lol......

Actually you wana know what I am afraid of.....both candidates as a a very clsoe friend of mine said "they are both spitting out ****".....but if Obama becomes president.....I'll think twice ....3....hell I'll consider moving to canada if he becomes president.... :P took that Idea from my cousin ,:P she said if Obama wins she would move to Spain.... even though she is a democrat...how weird :P still canada is awesome :P.


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annihilated? well not really, they were doing their best considering the situations they were in. They definitely gave the Afrika Corps a run for their money but did get a bit of **** kicking in the Pacific. Darwin was bombed until it was just a pile of rubble and the japanese even managed to get 2 submarines into Sydney, destroying quite a few ships. But the main reasons why the Australians failed in places they could have succeeded in was because of the damn british who thought they still ruled the world and tried to control the whole Commonwealth. We were a bit scared then but not anymore. If you've been paying attention to Australian politics (but i seriously doubt it, when i went to America i didn't so much as hear the word Australian mentioned anywhere) then you would know that one of Kevin Rudd's promises was to pull the troops out of Iraq. That's just one sign of how independent Australia is and if they're taking control that doesn't really seem like a sign of fear. Of course they're not pulling out of Iraq for a fear of being butchered like at Gallipoli, but simply because it was a stupid fight to get into and we don't want any part of it. If George Bush wasn't so moronic then he would have realised the same thing. I hope for your sake, America, that Obama does win the election. I love his views and seems way better than that stupid cowboy Bush.
 
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I mean the SAS is beast, but the Australian Special Forces. LOL. The JSF would beat you sideways and the Russians too. Maybe not the EF because I just realized they are a bunch panzees with a big laser. JSF all the way.


Ok. We understand that your patriotic about your country thats fine. That doesn't mean you have to go around making unsupported claims that the JSF are the most skilled troops in the world. And i also heard the information that Australia's special forces DO train some american delta soldiers. I am currently in the army cadets and during a camp, Australian special forces were challenged to sneak right through the middle of our camp over a period of 2 days. We were near the camp the whole time and the soldiers were remarkably able to get past, so don't go saying that everyone sucks except you.

Also for any people that may have wanted to see the latest Australian defence projects i have below the site link for Australia's future defence projects.
They include the purchase of Super hornets,F35's as well as other military helicopter,tank and naval upgrades. There is also a air to surface missile upgrade and software improvement.
http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/lsp/index.cfm


 
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dang Talon, you owned him. Australia actually have the second or third best Special Forces after England. So take that you extremely up yourself yank. AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!
 
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oh, btw, i wasn't talking to you talon, i was talking to dmans, just in case you thought i thought you were a yank Smile
 
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I reckon i smell an expansion with commonwealth countries, UK, CANADNA, AUST, NZ. Hey at least if UK and Canada get taken, you've got 2 excellent back up territories that can only be attacked by D-day style :P Plus you've got the desert of Australia, then the jungles on east, and large urban cites.....

then you have to cross the Tasman, and you're in the alps on NZ.


 
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LHD's not Carriers. Entirely different ships.
There is a small chance that the Canberra class will support limited STOVL operations(as they are first and foremost amphibious assault ships that operate helicopters), but this was NOT mentioned in the original tender for the ships.


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Australia might have the greatest army in the world.

They're still by themselves in a corner of the Pacific. Why would they want to fight anyone? Who would invade Australia? (Not saying it isn't a good place, but it doesn't have vast resources and is somewhat out-of-the-way.)


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Silly Australia isnt a real place
 
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