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Originally posted by Shut-Up-Randy:
sorry i was at work! indiana...i will go rent it on ps3 and we will hook up sometime!

have a good time you two. doors open please. that said, i hope you're lucky.

cool, my name is my login, play most every night after work, so, around 9 your time, and weekends. see what good debate can bring. but do have a ps 3 account, or would you be just starting?

My psn id is Cards04

I think im gonna just buy endwar on ps3 tomorrow since it's only 19.99 now....i wanna give it a try over there...im #23 persistant on xbox360 now a days i think...i don't get to play much anymore...we can either skirmish, or if you wanna play some in TOW gimme a day or two to at least get a couple units up from recruit to regular...who are you fighting for? we i will prolly join spz or efec, jsf is too easy....

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Originally posted by gentry420:
i never dash or evac. i will evac if i have two units to your twelve, that is just logical, but never in a battle.

Really?

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Originally posted by gentry420:
it did not upset me to lose those units uner those circumstances. had they been killing intentionally, i'd a been outta there faster than a long tail cat in a room full of rockin chairs.

Because you admitted that you do.........

toaster, what i meant was, get outta the heat and retreat a bit to regroup, but i see how that was worded, sorry. randy, i'll look you up today after work, i am sgb myself, top 10 russian, top 50 overall, i would rather skirmish until you have a ton of upgrades, unless your like superfly and can beat anyone without any upgrades? but if want to go green, we could always use another good commander for russia on ps3, we are pretty out numbered.

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Originally posted by gentry420:
toaster, what i meant was, get outta the heat and retreat a bit to regroup, but i see how that was worded, sorry. randy, i'll look you up today after work, i am sgb myself, top 10 russian, top 50 overall, i would rather skirmish until you have a ton of upgrades, unless your like superfly and can beat anyone without any upgrades? but if want to go green, we could always use another good commander for russia on ps3, we are pretty out numbered.

Does that mean you have went from JSF to Russia now?

It's pretty much started already. Almost every game I have now is with unit killers. This game will be completely dead in a few months, if it wasn't dead already.

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Originally posted by Astalano:
It's pretty much started already. Almost every game I have now is with unit killers. This game will be completely dead in a few months, if it wasn't dead already.

What's unit killing got to do with the game being dead? It's great fun and part of the game mechanics. Enjoy it, stop wining or go play something else.

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Originally posted by Gregolution:

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Originally posted by Astalano:
It's pretty much started already. Almost every game I have now is with unit killers. This game will be completely dead in a few months, if it wasn't dead already.

What's unit killing got to do with the game being dead? It's great fun and part of the game mechanics. Enjoy it, stop wining or go play something else.

Unit killing keeps frightening off players. Did you even read what I wrote?

No, it's not great fun. Not at all.

I do enjoy it, so why don't you shut up? And the whole "oh go play something else" is exactly why this game failed. You guys need to get a clue.

trumpet, i am russian and always have been, and always will be russian. why do you ask?

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Originally posted by Astalano:

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Originally posted by Gregolution:

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Originally posted by Astalano:
It's pretty much started already. Almost every game I have now is with unit killers. This game will be completely dead in a few months, if it wasn't dead already.

What's unit killing got to do with the game being dead? It's great fun and part of the game mechanics. Enjoy it, stop wining or go play something else.

Unit killing keeps frightening off players. Did you even read what I wrote?

No, it's not great fun. Not at all.

I do enjoy it, so why don't you shut up? And the whole "oh go play something else" is exactly why this game failed. You guys need to get a clue.

You're naively assuming everyone is as whiney and pathetic as yourself. Without unit killing, there would be less people playing this game not more.

I hear there's a new Carebear MMO might be something that interests you. At least it will keep you off these forums spamming all your whining...

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Originally posted by Gregolution:
You're naively assuming everyone is as whiney and pathetic as yourself. Without unit killing, there would be less people playing this game not more.

I hear there's a new Carebear MMO might be something that interests you. At least it will keep you off these forums spamming all your whining...

This post is made out of the purest form of win imaginable.

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Originally posted by Gregolution:

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Originally posted by Astalano:

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Originally posted by Gregolution:

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Originally posted by Astalano:
It's pretty much started already. Almost every game I have now is with unit killers. This game will be completely dead in a few months, if it wasn't dead already.

What's unit killing got to do with the game being dead? It's great fun and part of the game mechanics. Enjoy it, stop wining or go play something else.

Unit killing keeps frightening off players. Did you even read what I wrote?

No, it's not great fun. Not at all.

I do enjoy it, so why don't you shut up? And the whole "oh go play something else" is exactly why this game failed. You guys need to get a clue.

You're naively assuming everyone is as whiney and pathetic as yourself. Without unit killing, there would be less people playing this game not more.

I hear there's a new Carebear MMO might be something that interests you. At least it will keep you off these forums spamming all your whining...

Wow, your post is made of SO MUCH FAIL it's unthinkable. Whiny? I just want the community to calm down and give the people in the community who are absolutely sick of unit killers a break. I love the concept in the game, it keeps things fresh, but the way we're going, we won't have a community left at all. And you will have no one to blame but yourself. Whiny? You're the one who's the ****ing whiner.

I hea there's a doctor down the road who can help YOU out.

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Originally posted by Astalano:
Wow, your post is made of SO MUCH FAIL it's unthinkable. Whiny? I just want the community to calm down and give the people in the community who are absolutely sick of unit killers a break. I love the concept in the game, it keeps things fresh, but the way we're going, we won't have a community left at all. And you will have no one to blame but yourself. Whiny? You're the one who's the ****ing whiner.

I hea there's a doctor down the road who can help YOU out.

Look Astalano the game isn't dying because of unit killers. Its dying because of a number of things

1) A HUGE learning curve. Really this game has the biggest learning curve I've every seen. You have to know what your doing to win with recruits against a veteran battalion, which new comers won't know what to do against. This pushes them out because they think they lost because of a poorly balanced game, they didn't start the game on even ground like most RTS's do. Even if the opponent was just more skilled than them they will still think it was all in the units.

2) Supports. This is actually a major cause for the wait times too, but anyway when you first start out you think air support is the best thing in the game. And when your forced to play on maps where you do not have it but the enemy does you think its unbalanced, again your not starting on even ground. This makes your matches incredibly tough since you do not have electronic warfare and playing without any supports sucks.

3) An unexplained Theater of War. This effects the main drive for this game and since many people do not check the forums they have no idea how the **** it works, I still don't fully understand it and I would be surprised if even Ubisoft does. Such as in War 4 when the JSF lost the siege of Moscow but still won it, that ****ed MANY Russians and Euros off. Now if they actually explained it when you first logged on Theater of War or even had a "Theater of War Rules" page in the game perhaps people would have stayed.

4) The glitches. Seriously this is one **** up game, dashboarding, losing units for no reason, glitches deep strikes, and the infinite CP glitch... Just to name a few, the average player won't be able to deal with these things.

Then Ubisoft had the balls to keep us in the dark when they were "fixing" these things. Sure you might be able to check online and catch what the community developer was saying, which was never very much, but again not many people check online for these things. So when the patch finally came out, they had not idea what the hell it fixed.

Ubisoft made a "Message of the Day" board in the games menus but the only thing I've seen it used for, was for advertising their outrageously overpriced downloadable content.

5) Poor marketing. This came out around the time Dead Space, Gears of War 2, and Call of Duty World at War came out. That cut sales right in half, then they barely had commercials for it so no one ever heard about it, and finally many people thought it was a FPS shooter. Really I'm surprised it had a large a community as it did!

6) The servers... How many times has this games servers gone down? Three or four times now? The people who do not check the forums would probably quit the game after the second time.

7) Ubisoft pull support from the game. What guts, you let the glitches run ramped for months, keep us in the dark the entire time, let the servers go down for days, give us hope that your fixing the glitches... then half fix them and pull support. What a big "F*** You!" to the people who bought this. This probably cause more people to quit than anything.

The only other company who treats their customers like this is EA with the Command and Conquer series for Xbox. Never had a patch for the game, even though it was grossly imbalanced and the servers were offline every other day.
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Really these are the things killing the game, not the "zomg my regular unit died!!!!!!!!!! Ima quit now!"

I've been noticing the community dwindle for a while now, just because you were blind enough to not see it until now doesn't mean it wasn't happening or that unit killing is the cause. And I don't know about you, but I'm going to enjoy the game well it still has some blood left in it and there is nothing more enjoyable than seeing those veteran units disappearing from your battalion.

hat off to Angry Toaster!!

This is a brilliant post, full of truth - I agree whole heartedly. The only other thing I could possibly add to that list is the lack of a good match making system in TOW too - I've always felt that was a massive hole in the game.

Thank god there is some sanity left on these forums!

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Originally posted by gentry420:
trumpet, i am russian and always have been, and always will be russian. why do you ask?

I was trying to read and understand your post,
I'm certain iv seen you as JSF. must be wrong no worries

so, any predictions on when the game dies officially, we could put our units on it. if we make a bet and we are wrong, we have to change our battalion and lose all of our units, any one got a guess? i will say around the one year anniversary

People were saying that this game wouldn't reach summer, and it did.. obviously not as strong as it was before but you can still go online and get some matches. Unit killing, yea... highly discouraging.. personally every time I get mad with this game I go back and play some COD

every body just **** up and play the game kill units lose units cry later.....i was reading some of the things on here and that Astalano guy annoying.. Asttalano all u got to know is that anything u say wont change a thing about wat is going on in the game.......if i play u will bitcHHHHH about how i killed ur units.....sooooo suck ittt..............ooohhh and one more thing there not gona take unit killing of upcoming endwar game Endwar2 kkkk

I lost nearly all my good units in a single game not to long ago. Since then I've returned to world in conflict and never looked back.

I have a frend who only played for two weeks then got fed up with all the dead units. He left.

When I ask my freinds at school what they though of the game, it's either "Who" or in rare cases "That game sucks (insert 4-5 letter word of choice here)."

I recently tried to return to the game (hince the post) and found it kinda boring becouse I couldn't find matches. Then tried to start up just forum surfing but....well, just look at the post above.

As you can see, my city is all but deviod of players, and it's a large city too. By.