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I just got some nice answers from Mechner. He just opened a forum where people can post questions and hoepyfully get answered if you behave yourself.

So, one thing for sure, Mechner wasn't aware of Kindred Blades.
I was relying on an old thread Zapages opened when he said that Mister B stated that Mechner and Mallat would worked together.

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With regard to Kindred Blades, it's not a project I worked on or am familiar with. Sands of Time was the only Ubisoft title I worked on. I hadn't known there was a rumor that I was coming back on board to do the third title. Wherever it came from, it isn't accurate.


So my apologize for this incorrect statement of mine somewhere I posted in ''Hidden Message''.

And suprisingly, he has a different opinion of WW than it was written in the news. I asked him why he was displeased and there you go:
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As to your first question about Warrior Within, I agree with you that the game play and in particular the combat system had a lot of strengths, and represented an improvement over SOT in many areas. It was an impressive achievement for the team to make this game in less than 12 months from start to finish -- a lot less than we had on SOT -- and I take my hat off to them for that.

My personal reservations about POP:WW have to do not so much with the game itself -- which I know many people enjoyed very much -- as with the overall tone, including dialog and voice acting. (In other words, they lost me at "You bitch!") It's a different artistic sensibility than POP:SOT, it wasn't to my taste, and that's all I meant to say.

Unfortunately, my criticism of POP:WW got printed (and widely repeated), while my many favorable comments about the game didn't. Which is par for the course, I guess, and I should have seen it coming. If I did that interview today, I'd probably be more careful.


What did we learned folks? Never trust media or contra-WW blogs Big Grin

So,if you are up for some questions, you can post them here:
http://jordanmechner.com/forum/

forum is called ''Questions for Jordan ''




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Who was the guy who said that WW wasnt POP for him?? Shady Oh yeah, i think i remember ...

WW is the worst POP, the best is T2T ... LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE!!

I think its a bit late for this T_T


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No, it's not too late. Shady

Well, I've visited thoose forums quite sometimes but I never posted something, looks like you guys are going to see me more back there Mean Happy

Awesome Tristan Wink

EDIT: I've posted some questions Smile I hope he answers them Big Grin



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In other words, they lost me at "You bitch!"

Haha, I'll have to agree that it was a bit too much but funny nonetheless. Nice to know that he wasn't that unhappy with WW as I previously thought.



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Mr. B was on IGN Boards and was a representative of the POP Team during the development of all three Prince of Persia Sands of Time Games, Assassin's Creed, and the PoP 2008...

Also at that time that was situation... Things change in game development like everything in life. :|
 
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Originally posted by Zapages:

Also at that time that was situation... Things change in game development like everything in life. :|


Do you think I would know something like that?
That post came from you and I trusted you ;_;...




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What, something posted on the internet was untrue? Say it ain't so!

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Interesting he didn't like the tone of WW. Obviously he wasn't that heartbroken about it to do anything about it.


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Rox! Long time no see Winky

I think it was funny at first but it didn't felt right with the game (along with the fetish orgasmic girls and Shadee/Kaileena's vestiments). But at least they didn't abused of Mild Language Smile



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Originally posted by Tristan_129:
quote:
Originally posted by Zapages:

Also at that time that was situation... Things change in game development like everything in life. :|


Do you think I would know something like that?
That post came from you and I trusted you ;_;...


That was before E3... If I remember correctly... Post E3 things changed, a bit but Yannis Mallat was still involved in the game as he was the executive producer and the producer was Ben Mattes.


Executive Producer:
Yannis Mallat
Producer:
Ben Mattes


Also let's not forget Jordan Mechner liked the return of style of The Two Thrones if I remember correctly. Although it seems Jordan Mechner was not fully involved in the game development of the game. It seems he liked the new direction of it more so than Warrior Within. Aside from the quote means that Jordan Mechner knows about the development things that he was not approving of would be corrected in The Two Thrones...



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Not surprisingly, Prince of Persia won both critical acclaim and a large, devoted fan following its release by Brøderbund in 1989. To Mechner, the success of his game is due in large part to his being at the right place at the right time: “I think the state of video games in the 1980s was comparable to that of films in the 1920s and 1930s, and there was the opportunity for one person to create something of high quality.” The original version of Prince of Persia has been followed by many sequels. The latest sequel, Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones, will be released by Ubisoft in December of 2005. Mechner hails the collaborative effort of many creative people in creating video games today—an experience very different from his own dorm room projects at Yale. At the same time, however, Mechner laments, “The video game industry has really become such a mass market industry that nowadays, budget and time constraints can really put a brake on creativity.”


Source: http://research.yale.edu/ysm/a...le.jsp?articleID=463

EDIT: One more thing about day/night thing <-That was IGN's speculation about the game that you took as fact. Ubisoft never said there will be day and night...

Dude when did the Dark Prince use fire??? He had whip.

Also King Shahraman thing... That was never stated, I don't know what where you are getting that from.

The other points that you've raised I already answered in another thread. :|
 
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I will have to say that zap is right that things change in game development over the course of period. So its not that what is at the priliminary stage will continue till the end of the development.

I remember at the IGN boards with a thread with a source link to it that Mr.Mechner is approving each and everything of Two Thrones. I didnt believe that even at that time because i didnt think he got the time.

Mechner is just a bit diplomatic in the answer in my opinion but overall he gives a fine response and i truly agree with him that the WW had some good features as well.


 
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i already figured this was the issue. his thinking was much like mine. while i really enjoyed the advancements in WW's game play, it was the overall tone of the game that didn't feel right. this is the way many of us SOT supporters felt.




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Wow, I knew he couldn't dislike WW for the gameplay aspects, as I've said before, his original PoP looks way more close to a WW's athmosphere than any other PoP game... So, the guy who said that on that blog/news whatever, is an idiot lol.

The "you bitch part?", yeah, that kinda felt... out of place?
@Morne: About Kaileena and Shadee, I liked the direction those antagonists had, the physical matter was the less for me, the psycological stuff was way more "tastier".
Nevermind, good to read this stuff, its cool.



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Or the "Die you bastard!!" It kinda threw out of the game even more after the "You bitch" part with Shadee
Sure it was funny and all though :P



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