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Originally posted by Iran4life:

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Originally posted by pop_sot:
As We have know just a little that the Game is going back to its roots, Means 1001 Arabain Nights Feel. I dont think that there is any room of including Rock Music in any circumstances.

The music should be completly Alligned with 1001 Nights.

OMG, theres no "arabian" in the 1001 nights!

Dont take stress Dear! Its Implied

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Originally posted by diegocavazos:
I think POP should look more real each time and making use of that technology will be like returning to the past. The fellows of Ubi should really make full use of the powerful engines of a PS3 or an Xbox 360. As I read in Wikipedia, it looks like cell-shading will be used and in the image I saw upper in this post, you can see the Prince with those thick lines all around his body. I prefer plastic modeling because of its use of the light and the real it looks. If you think like me, post things like this message to make Ubi designers to change the appearance, that is not very difficult, they should just render differently. Thanks, and, whatever you do, I will ever like the game; however if you realize the cell-shading version, I hope it will very well designed, and expect not to have a poor graphic system. For those people who don't know how cell-shading (a.k.a. Ink effect) renders look like, look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell-shading. Thanks to everybody.

Actually I think the cel-shaded look is more in keeping with Jordan Mechner's basic idea that the more realistic you try to make your characters look, the more apparent it is how flawed they are, whereas with a more stylized/"cartoony" approach, there's more focus on good character design and the graphics don't matter as much as they would with realistic characters. I'm paraphrasing badly, it's been a long time since I saw that panel interview, but you get the general idea.

Not that Mechner's working on this game or anything.

^I understand what you mean - I still have mixed feelings about the cell shading style though...
Will have to see how it looks in the game

The speed painting looks great - thank you John for posting it

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Originally posted by UnaUuru:

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Originally posted by diegocavazos:
I think POP should look more real each time and making use of that technology will be like returning to the past. The fellows of Ubi should really make full use of the powerful engines of a PS3 or an Xbox 360. As I read in Wikipedia, it looks like cell-shading will be used and in the image I saw upper in this post, you can see the Prince with those thick lines all around his body. I prefer plastic modeling because of its use of the light and the real it looks. If you think like me, post things like this message to make Ubi designers to change the appearance, that is not very difficult, they should just render differently. Thanks, and, whatever you do, I will ever like the game; however if you realize the cell-shading version, I hope it will very well designed, and expect not to have a poor graphic system. For those people who don't know how cell-shading (a.k.a. Ink effect) renders look like, look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell-shading. Thanks to everybody.

Actually I think the cel-shaded look is more in keeping with Jordan Mechner's basic idea that the more realistic you try to make your characters look, the more apparent it is how flawed they are, whereas with a more stylized/"cartoony" approach, there's more focus on good character design and the graphics don't matter as much as they would with realistic characters. I'm paraphrasing badly, it's been a long time since I saw that panel interview, but you get the general idea.

Not that Mechner's working on this game or anything.

I agree wholeheartedly.

I've been pushing those same ideas for so long.

Prince of Persia has always been about outstanding style, outstanding design, and outstanding art, not outstanding graphics. Games that hang their hopes on graphics, with the latest facial mapping features, the coolest particle effects, and the most superb shading, are doomed to fail. Because in five years, every game will look as good as that and even better still. Maybe a game will be noted for having good graphics when it comes out, but no one will remember it in five years solely for its amazing graphics, because it will be technology of the past by that time.

And the less technology they put into having those amazing graphics is all the more that can be spent on a seamless environment and polished game play.

Frankly, you shouldn't even compare this Prince of Persia title to Wind Waker. Notice how the prince still has a proportional figure; his arms, torso, legs and head are all proportionate to each other, whereas Link's body is basically a giant ball on top of a stick body and twig limbs. Prince of Persia's cell shading is an artistic view of a realistic world, and Wind Waker's is an artistic view of an artistic world. They're not comparable, basically.

I think it looks amazing and blends very well with Persia's style.

I would like to ask 2 questions regarding this game.

1st question: Why did they made it a toon type character rather than to go with the real thing like they did in Assassin's Creed? Is Ben Mattes taking a step forward into a very big puddle of mistake by doing this or, will this step boost more popularity to the already legendary game from UBI?

2nd question: Has Ben Mattes already consulted Mr. Mechner regarding this game? Is Mr. Mechner gonna be the one to trademark this games caption?

That's all, thanks and more power to all the Mods of this forum and all it's loyal members... (I'm gonna watch Vanessa Carlton my idol live tonight ^__^)

First question - Assassin's Creed was all about historical accuracy and stunning realism. And with that, realistic graphics blend best with the concept. Persia has always been about action fantasy, style, artistic view, and amazing designs. And with that, the graphics are freed up to be as artistic as they want to be.

Second question - no idea.

Oh, ok thanks... At least things got clearer to me now

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Originally posted by Iran4life:

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Originally posted by pop_sot:
The music should be completly Alligned with 1001 Nights.

OMG, theres no "arabian" in the 1001 nights!

Dear Iran4life
Please try to stop being politically correct all the time.
This is not the forum for it.
Thank you

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Originally posted by UnaUuru:
Actually I think the cel-shaded look is more in keeping with Jordan Mechner's basic idea that the more realistic you try to make your characters look, the more apparent it is how flawed they are, whereas with a more stylized/"cartoony" approach, there's more focus on good character design and the graphics don't matter as much as they would with realistic characters.

There is no flaw in his gorgeous flowing locks! ^_^
Which is more than we'll ever see from his moving drawing ;_;

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Originally posted by FireEmpress:
Please try to stop being politically correct all the time.
This is not the forum for it.
Thank you

QFE!!

... and if I remember correctly, when I read 1,001 nights, the stories stretched all the way from Arabia to China...
Actually, to be honest, none of the very significant stories had anything to do with Persia, I think they focused more on foreign lands because they were 'exotic'.

So yeah, there is actually LOTS of Arabia in 1,001 nights

quick question for ib since he always seems to have the scoop on the important parts of the character personalities... ib, does the new prince enjoy muffins as much or even more than the old prince? and if so, what is his favorite flavor?

The Edge story and picture of the Prince at Next-Gen.biz.

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Originally posted by dom1999:
quick question for ib since he always seems to have the scoop on the important parts of the character personalities... ib, does the new prince enjoy muffins as much or even more than the old prince? and if so, what is his favorite flavor?

Well, if you look at the images of the new Prince, you will notice he already has his muffin glove on. He prefers his muffins piping hot and fresh out of the oven!

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Originally posted by Raide:

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Originally posted by dom1999:
quick question for ib since he always seems to have the scoop on the important parts of the character personalities... ib, does the new prince enjoy muffins as much or even more than the old prince? and if so, what is his favorite flavor?

Well, if you look at the images of the new Prince, you will notice he already has his muffin glove on. He prefers his muffins piping hot and fresh out of the oven!

yeah, but i was curious as to what flavor mostly... though luckily after hard research, i uncovered this little piece of information.

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Originally posted by LaurenIsSoMosh:
Frankly, you shouldn't even compare this Prince of Persia title to Wind Waker. Notice how the prince still has a proportional figure; his arms, torso, legs and head are all proportionate to each other, whereas Link's body is basically a giant ball on top of a stick body and twig limbs. Prince of Persia's cell shading is an artistic view of a realistic world, and Wind Waker's is an artistic view of an artistic world. They're not comparable, basically.

Yes true, Link is definitely a bit peculiar looking in Windwaker. I was quite hesitant before I played it, but then once I started playing it I forgot all about his cartoonish looks. My attention was completely focused on the gameplay and the story. In other words; if the game is good enough, it should make you forget about things that previously annoyed you when you looked at previews and such. That being said, I didn't complain though when Twilight Princess was not done in cell shading. I'll still replay Windwaker though, I was very happily surprised with it considering what I thought the game looked like beforhand in trailers and pics. So even if it's not possible to compare Windwaker and the new POP game, from experience I've now decided that I won't jump to conclusions and form an opinion about the next POP game being done in cell shading.

I'll wait until having seen more pics, trailers, and most importantly actually having played the game.

All I'm thinking at the moment is that I'm very excited there is a new POP game on the way, and from the little we've seen so far I think it seems promising. Change is not necessarily a bad thing, and it doesn't have to be permanent. I agree with what Hasan ( pop_sot ) said in the announcement thread, I also wish to see the Prince from the SOT trilogy return in future stories. As for now he might need the rest, leave room for another story with new possibilities. But yes, I do wish to see him return again at some point in future Prince of Persia games.

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Originally posted by likeitsme:

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Originally posted by FireEmpress:
Please try to stop being politically correct all the time.
This is not the forum for it.
Thank you

QFE!!

... and if I remember correctly, when I read 1,001 nights, the stories stretched all the way from Arabia to China...
Actually, to be honest, none of the very significant stories had anything to do with Persia, I think they focused more on foreign lands because they were 'exotic'.

So yeah, there is actually LOTS of Arabia in 1,001 nights

I would have answered back nicely right there, but I don't want to get banned so...

^Not looking for an argument
*not giving anyone the satisfaction by replying *

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Originally posted by dom1999:
quick question for ib since he always seems to have the scoop on the important parts of the character personalities... ib, does the new prince enjoy muffins as much or even more than the old prince? and if so, what is his favorite flavor?

Funny you should mention that...



Always wondered why that thing was so big!

Muffintastic!

The new Prince has plenty of new tricks up his sleeve. They may or may not include muffins or other baked goods.

If ubisoft releases cel-shaded POP and totaly new character, Ubi will get so much money with one different thing.Money will look like cel-shaded also

According to the new information this is totally different game just it's name is POP to sell more copies in the world.

I hope ubi will enjoy superb artistic cel-shaded money.LMAO )))

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Originally posted by permaximum88:
If ubisoft releases cel-shaded POP and totaly new character, Ubi will get so much money with one different thing.Money will look like cel-shaded also

According to the new information this is totally different game just it's name is POP to sell more copies in the world.

I hope ubi will enjoy superb artistic cel-shaded money.LMAO )))

i want some of whatever you're having right now... it sounds pretty sweet.

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Originally posted by dom1999:

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Originally posted by Raide:

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Originally posted by dom1999:
quick question for ib since he always seems to have the scoop on the important parts of the character personalities... ib, does the new prince enjoy muffins as much or even more than the old prince? and if so, what is his favorite flavor?

Well, if you look at the images of the new Prince, you will notice he already has his muffin glove on. He prefers his muffins piping hot and fresh out of the oven!

yeah, but i was curious as to what flavor mostly... though luckily after hard research, i uncovered this little piece of information.

Where did you get the original Prince pic in the muffin pic?!

That looks awesome btw.