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5.)Magic is coming from the Persian tribe/Priests called Magi. So any surreal ''Magical theme'' like the last level of ''World of Illusion'' is a Persian theme.

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30. The deity of the early Persians was a pure creative spirit called Ahura-Mazda, "the Lord of great knowledge" whom the later Persians identified with Mithra, the sun god..he had two sons, light and darkness, good and evil, Ormuzd and Ahriman sounds familliar ? but wait, there's more These two were always in struggle for dominion over the universe, and in their tremendous warfare they called to their banners every living thing and every force on earth. Man holds a leading part in the great strife. Every one by his own will ranges himself upon one side or the other, for he helps the cause of Ormuzd by every generous act and thought, advances that of Ahriman by every deed of shame
this clears up the game's meaning a little bit more

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31. Zoroastra never claimed to be a prophet. Like Plato he reached the knoweledge of Mazda through pure thinking. So his teaching should be more of philosophical than spiritual nature.

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32. Zoroastra realized early that the world is depended on causality. Physical,natural and chemical causality is under the hand under Asha, Avestan for ''Order of Nature'' and ''Truth''.
However, for some reason the humans don't fall under the Asha except their biological situation, worse, they aren't even aware of it except witnessing natural life and force.

But the humans are under the rule of ethical causality. Each decision you make can either have positive consequenses, or negative ones.And that's not such personal consequenses, social and worldly consequenses also fall under the category.

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33.He called it the ''Tshinowat''.It means ''crossroads'' and ''threshold of decision''.
The Zoroastran Priests turned this figure of speech into what we know as heaven and hell. Good actions and bad actions will be wought and if you happen to be a good guy, you will reach ''Paradisia''.
Other way around you will reach hell, I am not sure how it was on Persian.
But it never was of religious nature, Zoro meant by that by each of our decision we will cross a new path and we walk through during our life. Our actions are the guider.
Something I really hope it will be explored in NG:2, since the douchebag hero has open a new path.

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34. Therefore, Zoro realized that he should make an ethical catalogue how to find the right path in your life. It's not really big,it falls into three simple rules:
*Wohuman, Avestan for ''good reflections''
*Good talking, like praising,motivating or comforting
*Kashatra, Avestan for ''Good deeds''

If you follow these, you will have a good life until the end.What he means by good is up to us to interprete. I guess the good is of social and moral, maybe even qualitative nature. Killing is a bad deed for example, since it will give you a bad life. Not only because you will be charged in justice in front of the law or god, because it will cause you having guilt and bringing you off from the good thoughts and you will fall from your balance of a good life.
As for stealing, if you steal someone it will be no wonder if people start stealing from you(...huh?).

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35.Zoroastra never called Ormazd a god. He more thought of him as an abstract intelligence which was the cause of the universe, Asha and you.Like Plato's idea of ''Agathon''.It could fall under the category of a god, but I am really sceptical about it. Can we call really the cause of the Universe, ''Big Bang'', as a god? Not really if you ask me.

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According to tradition, “Faravahar,” is one the symbol of Zoroastrianism.

Briefly, it can be said that “Faravahar,” is the spirit of human being that had been existed before his/her birth and will continue to exist after his/her death. It is important to know that “Faravahar,” should not be confused or replaced by creator or Ahura Mazda. It is unfortunate, that some writers do not want to accept the fact that contrary to many religions, Zoroastrianism has never believed in anthropomorphism any feature for God. In no part of Gatha, there is also any mention of the face of Ormazd.

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1. The Faravahar's face resembles the face of human being and therefore, indicates its connection to mankind.

2. There are two wings in two sides of the picture, which have three main feathers. These main feathers indicate three symbols of “good reflection,” “good words,” and “good deed,” which are at the same time the motive of flight and advancement.

3. The lower part of the Faravahar consists of three parts, representing “bad reflection,” “bad words,” and “bad deed” which causes misery and misfortune for human beings.

4. There are two loops at the two sides of the Faravahar, which represent “Sepanta Minu,” and “Ankareh Minu.” The former is directed toward the face and the latter is located at the back. This also indicates that we have to proceed toward the good and turn away from bad.

5. There is a circle in the middle of the Faravahar's trunk. This symbol indicates that our spirit is immortal, having neither a beginning, nor an end.

6. One hand of the Faravahar, points upwards, showing that we have to struggle to thrive.

7. The other hand holds a ring. Some interpreters consider that as the ring of covenant, representing loyalty and faithfulness which is the basis of Zarathustra's philosophy.

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38. In zoroastrianism, the Faravahar or human spirit, embodies two opposing indicators of good and bad. This will clearly show the Zarathustra's philosophy that everybody should try to promote his/her Sepanta Minu (positive force) and suppress his/her Ankareh Minu (negative force). As a result of such a spiritual struggle toward goodness and avoiding evil, everybody will be able to thrive in all the walks of his/her life. Since, the ring of covenant which located in the center of the Faravahar's trunk is the symbol of the immortality of the spirit, it can be inferred that more human beings try to promote their own Faravahar, more their spirit will be elevated in the other world after they pass away. For that reason, ancient Iranians would never mourn at the death of their beloved ones, because they would believe that their spirit will be elevated to a higher level in the other world. Naturally, when we believe that at the time of death, the spirit of the dead bodies would be elevated to a higher level, we have to joy at their departure to another world, rather than being heartbroken, though their loss may be intolerable for us. In this way, in zoroastrianism, on the basis of one's Faravahar, everybody is responsible for his/her own deed.

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39. Zoro's teachings was turned into a religion later on. A theory would be that the clerics feared of their power because of the radical neglism towards the traditional idolatrous praying and sacrifices to keep the sheep under their controll. So later on the gatha was revealed in the Zend Avesta. Zend means like ''commentary''. It would be no surprise that the Avesta would contradict with the Gatha, especially allowing some gods liek Mithra Zoro declined in their teachings. So it's like the people did afterwards with Jesus' teachings. But not that bad since we saw that the Zoroastrians never really abused the religion as far as we know.

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Yasna(''Prayers'')
Mostly the Gataha, which was sung as prayers in ceremonies

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Vendidâd (''Laws against Daevas'')
Build in 22 „Fargards“, the whole Vendidad is a fictional dialogue of Ormazd and Zoroastra. Mostly in fragments, it expanded the Zoroastrian tales, like ''legend of creation'', about ''Yima '' and tipps how you can fall off from evil

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Visparad (''All Superior'')
Mostly prays and ceremony catalogs

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The Yashts (''worship by praise'')
a collection of 21 hymns, each dedicated to a particular divinity or divine concept. Three hymns of the Yasna liturgy that "worship by praise" are—in tradition—also nominally called yashts, but are not counted among the Yasht collection since the three are a part of the primary litury. The Yashts vary greatly in style, quality and extent. In their present form, they are all in prose but analysis suggests that they may at one time have been in verse.

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Siroza ("thirty days")
A calendar about each god presenting each day. I come later at that

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Khordeh Avesta(''Little Avesta'')
both a selection of verses from the other collections, as well as three sub-collections that do not appear elsewhere. Taken together, the Khordeh Avesta is considered the prayer book for general lay use. In a wider sense, the term Khordeh Avesta includes all material other than the Yasna, the Visparad and the Vendidad, as it is only the ceremonies contained in these three books that are reserved for the priests.

The Khordeh Avesta is divided into 4 sections:

1. Five introductory chapters, accompanied by excerpts from different parts of the Yasna.
2. Five Niyayishns "praises," addressed to the sun, Mithra, the moon, the waters, and the fire. In the main, the material overlaps with that of the Yashts. The Niyayishn to fire derives from Yasna 62.
3. Five Gahs "moments of the day," addressed to the five divisions of the day.
4. Four Afrinagans "blessings," each recited on a particular occasion: the first in honor of the dead, the second on the five epagomenal days that end the year, the third is recited at the six seasonal feasts, and the fourth at the beginning and end of summer.

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Originally posted by Tristan_129:
Something I really hope it will be explored in NG:2, since the douchebag hero has open a new path.

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41.) Aside as the King having the highest position, the Persian community was structured in classes,like the caste system or the Roman classes:
First class:Priest
Second Class: Warrior/Soldier
Thrid Class: Peasant
Fourth Class: craftsman

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42. The Priests were the scholars of the Persian time. They studied medicine, jura and nature science,mostly astrology and astronomy

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43.doctors were the most important part of the priest, because it's their mission to keep humans,and animals ''clean'' from the evil Ahriman and his Daeva's bring over them:
Sickness and parasites. For that different jobs priests needed to attend: Pharacy, surgery and internists.But they weren't any ''miracle doctors'' like Baders from the medival, they needed to stay strictly at the Avesta, which explained how they should treat wounds and sickness and how to keep fire. They probably got even an oath like the Hippocratian one.But even the doctors were under classes, each specialiced job had an own rang. The surgeon seemed to be the highest one.

Oh yeah, they were ''cleaning with a knife''. Nice pun

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44.Funny thing is which seems really Unpersian is how the exam goes for the doctors: That the students get comeplete approbation,they had to manage three surgeries. The weird thing is that the victims happen to be ''unbelievers''. It's really weird, but that's how the Vendidad explained it. But to operate at belivers without approbation would be a crime...weird, I think this is one of the degeneration of Zoro's teachings.

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45. The doctors weren't exactly staying in residents, they were more like Wanderpriests. They have certain traveling gear which were stricted in the Avesta:
* The Xrafstra(lousekiller): A stab-like tool which kills Mazda hostile insects and snakes.
* Tools you needed to make Haoma(see 50.)
*The Baresman, a blanket which covered fire and nutrions from dirt
*surgery stuff and heal plants

The mission of the doctor is to help any creature, may it be human or animal, but only on certain time periods:
*If the dissease bursted in afternoon, then the patient could only be treated at night.
*If it happened at night, then let the wound heal during the night and then treat it at the morning.

Probably was this rule for the doctor so that he could study the wound or dissease and then decide how to treat the patient.

What is really weird is that the doctors had a tariff:
They needed to know the social background of the patient,how much money he or she has. It wasn't really payed of the potential of the doctor,more of the wealth and class of human and animal.

Seems like they didn't got financed.

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Originally posted by Tristan_129:
46. A Persian fighting art

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Originally posted by Tristan_129:
As for now, enjoy this:

46. A Persian fighting art

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Originally posted by Tristan_129:
I will update this thing shortly. My research about ancient culture made some interestin' discoveries how this culture was interweaved with different ones.

For example, the Magi, no one really knows about them, but their way of astrology was later found in Jewish Religion, also probably in Islamic Astronomy.

Anyway, could someone help me out with this:
http://www.godsdirectcontact.c...Science,Alchemy.html

I have a Windows 7,so I cannot really watch it 8/

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Originally posted by Grafferu:

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Originally posted by Tristan_129:
I will update this thing shortly. My research about ancient culture made some interestin' discoveries how this culture was interweaved with different ones.

For example, the Magi, no one really knows about them, but their way of astrology was later found in Jewish Religion, also probably in Islamic Astronomy.

Anyway, could someone help me out with this:
http://www.godsdirectcontact.c...Science,Alchemy.html

I have a Windows 7,so I cannot really watch it 8/

it's about a guy who lived in the 8-th century and was an amazing alchemist among other things, he was way ahead of his time

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Those people are Indian. Shady

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Originally posted by Tristan_129:
You know that Persian and Indian culture sure was interweaved,do you?

'sides, the guy who uploaded the vid for me stated it came from a magazine which said the style is Persian. Get over it.

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