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During a routine check of uboat.net I have found out that U-2359 has been found by the same divers who found out U-534.
Here is Uboat.net take on the news; "The boat was located near the island of Læsø by the same divers who also found U-534. The boat is apparently with its nose in the sea floor with the stern raised 30 degrees making it possible to dive under the stern itself. The diver Allan Greisen had been looking for the boat for 12 years and will currently not give out its exact position." Here is the news report from a Danish website, maybe Carotio maybe able to help with the translation This message has been edited. Last edited by: Goose_Green, |
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Sure, I can help!
It's rather long text, so maybe not today, but expect it latest thursday! |
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Somehow i can understand less of a danish text than i can understand from a norwegian one.
I know that "Tysk" means german in danish and norwegian aswell. Some words are 100% identical to german like "interessant" (interesting) or adresse (adress) Question to Carotio : "Eksemplarer" sounds like "Exemplar" (specimen) to me. Is that correct ? Naziguld is easy In very old german there is also a term "gülden" which meant "golden". Somehow that U became a O at some point. Verdenskrig sounds like Weltkrieg (World war) to me . Correct ? |
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Norwegian language is based on Danish, in fact it was meant to be identical but gradually they have drifted apart due to different pronunciation. In Danish, the 'T' is softened to such an extent that it became 'D' in most words. I would agree that standard (or 'bokmaal') Norwegian is an easier language to speak than Danish, but I like the way that Norwegian seems to come in at least three major regional versions, and each version is used 'officially' in newspapers etc. - the spoken Norwegian in the far north is as different to "Oslo Norwegian" as it is to Swedish.
Hardly surprising, really - if you have a map of Europe, put a pin in Kristiansand, South Norway; tie a cotton thread to it, stretch the thread to the North Cape/Hammerfest, then turn the thread south - it will almost reach Rome. http://home.cogeco.ca/~gchalcraft/sm/British Submarines of World War Two 44:15:20.09N 76:27:14.10W Where's me bubble? |
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Thank you Carotio This message has been edited. Last edited by: Goose_Green, |
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Check this out...
Glompte... Mohle... Bilde... Bilista... Morke... Any ideas? Watch this space! KUrtz. |
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eksemplarer = specimen verdenskrig = Weltkrieg @geoffwessex Sorry, but you're wrong. Norwegian is not based on Danish. Though, Norway was a part of the kingdom of Denmark for several hundred years, and thus the Danish language has off course had a mayor effect on Norwegian vocabulary. Until 1814, when Denmark was punished for supporting Napoleon, Norway was lost to Sweden, who coincidently had just recently got a former French general, Bernadotte, as king. Hmm... In 1905, I think, Norway became independant with the brother of the king of Denmark as elected king for Norway. Anyway, all three Scandinavian languages plus icelandic are arriving from old-nordic, which again arrived from old-germanic, which makes our languages related to German, Dutch, English... today. About the T - it depends whether it's first, middle or last in a word. True, in the end of a word, it may be pronounced very weak like a soft D. The Norwegian of northern Norway - I think that is "Nynorsk" - right? Yes, it's incomprehensible to other Scandinavians. But otherwise, we understand eachother most of the time. @Goose_Green I'll try to translate it now... |
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A team of non-professional divers have discovered the wreck of a u-boat from Second World War at the bottom of Kattegat east of Læsø. Private photo Title: Rare German u-boat wreck discovered Published October 7th 2007 Non-professional divers found last tuesday the wreck of a German u-boat, which was sunk May 2nd 1945. The boat is situated at the sea floor east of Læsø. The u-boat U-2359 has been a searched object for the last 12 years. Finally last tuesday, a team of non-professional divers hit the jackpot, when they discovered the wreck at the bottom of Kattegat east of Læsø. The boat was until last tuesday the last missing German u-boat, which was lost in Danish national waters during the Second World War. It has been object for a search ever since. The boat is despite its 200 tons a light weight class u-boat. It is only 34,28 meters long, so it was contructed to travel in shallow waters and from there attack the enemy very close to land. Secret spot Allan Greisen is one of the four non-professional divers, who was quite lucky, when they dived to a yet secret GPS-adress. "We have searched for it for 12 years. Now we have finally discovered it. It's a special little case. It was placed at the sea floor with a 30 degree gradient, and the rear end is floating, so you can dive underneath it. It has apparently crashdived directly towards the sea floor, and there it has been ever since" Allan Greisen reports. Rare speciman The boat was sunk May 2nd 1945 by 35 English Moskito fighters. There is yet no other specimen of this u-boat type in any of the museums around the world, so it could be interesting to pull it up. At least, so think the non-professional divers and Flemming Hansen, who in his free time for many years has studied specifically the u-boats/submarines from the years around the Second World War. Easy to salvage "Historically, it is interesting, and one has earlier on salvaged ships up to 6 times bigger, so this one should be easy enough to salvage. 50-60 pieces of this kind were constructed, and this one was finished in January 1945. But a huge part of the German u-boats were lost, because the Germans scuttled them themselves at the end of the war", says Flemming Hansen. The divers from the diving ship "Ternen" has through the many last years found several hundred wrecks, among these U-534, which was brought to the surface of the sea during the summer of 1993 by the owner of Den Blå Avis (Danish newspaper for selling your used objects), Karsten Ree. Some expected that nazi gold would be found onboard U-534, but it turned out to be nothing but a myth. It was only equipped with, what you could expect from a u-boat for warfare. Facts box: Link for uboat.net = http://uboat.net/boats/u2359.htm U-2359 - Type XXIII The 250 ton heavy and 35 meter long U 2359 with 12 seamen onboard was on its way to Norway. The u-boat was sunk May 2nd 1945 by rockets from English Moskito fighters, which was supported by Canadian and Norwegian Moskito fighters. There is still no specimen of this type of u-boat in any museum of the world. During May 1945, allied air forces intensified their hunting for German shipping in the inner Danish national waters. Edit: spelling mistakes This message has been edited. Last edited by: Carotio, |
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Thanks for the translation Carotio - Good work!
@ Goose - well spotted and thanks for flagging it up! 'A word to the wise ain't necessary. It's the stupid ones that need the advice' - Bill Cosby |
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You're welcome!
Always good to know somebody who can translate texts, whose language you don't know yourself! And this forum surely have many members of different nationalities! |
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Forget about even THINKING "salvage for a museum"- since she was sunk with all hands she is probably a recognized war grave, and if she isn't the German Government will list her as such very quickly.
The KNIL is dead. Long live the KNIL! |
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Interesting story Goose!
A Type XXIII... I can see why the divers wanted to find the wreck. |
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Are they aware of this? Do they care? Maybe it is just the cold. I was watching a British movie a couple of weeks ago made in the mid 1930's and I had to turn the volume up very high, sit on the edge of my seat, and I still think I missed 20-25% of the dialogue. |
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