for the heck of it until the 2nd patch comes out to make my microssoft sidewinder 2 forcefeedback work i went out and bought a cheap regular joystick from radioshack. a Saitek ST290 pro. i made it work 100% with this game and its great to be finally able to use a stick to play and fly instead of mouse/keyboard or game pad. throttle rudder(twist) all are changeable. the key is to when installing let it put the desktop icons on. one is for going to the game and one is for settings and you can map the keys there and adjust graphics etc. some key names arent right because the game was made with gamer pads in mind but ignore the button names and push the button you want on your stick and let it set it. i tried it in game and 100% function. now i have to get used to playing Blazing Angels with a stick now. the Saitek ST290 is usually a $24.oo joystick unless you find it on sale like i did and i paid $9.75 (radioshack store closeout sale 64 % off list price of $24.95 = $9.75 with tax)
and i installed the patch. i spent an hour just goofing around in the first mission to get used to this new non forcefeedback stick. though i hate not having forcefeedback....i will suffer without it until the patch and play and finally have alittle fun. and once i get used to the new stick and get some missions finished i will catch some of you who are still playing this online in some games.

keep the faith people and by the way UBISOFT could you please give us some update on the 2nd patch you are working on.

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the same thing i did with a logi extreme 3d pro.
in the control panel of the joy you can assign a key for each movement....
it's a good way to play the single player but in multi everything is different
SpiDer

I called around, and found one... I will go pick it up today... There going to sell out fast Pilot's... Only in store Pick-Up...!!! When there gone, there gone...!!!...


Saitek® ST290 Joystick $8.97
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2111063


Peruse (“examine thoroughly”) The Manual Here:
http://www.saitek.com/manuals/ST290%20Pro%20Manual%20EFGIS.doc.pdf

blackspider67, Did you get the game to recognize your throttle slider, and if so how?
My extreme 3DPro has functioned well with the game, except for that Slider. I have had to assign buttons 7 and 8 to Fast and slow.

i have it and the vertical axis is recognized as bottons making it useless

After the patch, which I think was just the game setup from the trial, I have been able to use my Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. I have just had to assign Fast and Slow to buttons 7 and 8. They must be held constantly or it reverts to normal. Roll to Stick left and right, Turn to twist. Next, closest,etc. target to hat.
This is how I play online.

it doesnt matter what the game "calls" the key or button you set on the stick. trust me it works. it called one of my axis as buttons and twist/rudder as a silder but yet it functions 100% as a joystick. i was bothered by the key/button names also for a little while until i said the heck with it and tried it. and as for multiplayer...... the joystick worked there too just fine. this will hold me over until the 2nd patch is released and hopefully my microsoft sidewinder forcefeed back 2 stick finally works 100% properly. for me nothing beats a true feeling forcefeedback joystick.........but to each their own....its a matter of personal preference. but i thought to atleast post this so you all know of what sticks work. if anyone else finds a stick that works please post it here also and dont worry what "name" the game gives the button/key you set...... set it anyways and try it.......you will be surprised.....and hopefully the 2nd patch changes the names for the buttons/keys too...........

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Originally posted by Judge-ArchAngel

Happy hunting and many safe returns to base....
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I picked up the Saitek ST290 PRO... Nice Stick...What A Deal for $8.97...!!! I Downloaded the Stick Programing File and the Driver File and installed them...

I plugged in the Stick and "Made A Profile For BOE DEMO" The Game would not Recognize "Throttle Slider" or "3D Twist Rudder" (A little tricky to program Sliders or Twist...Read The Profiler Help)with the ST290...??? BUT,... the Saitek Profiler Program is "TITS-UP" SoftWare... It lets you Program Sliders & Twist...!!!.... MY MS FF2 would not let me do that... In the BOE game panel, you can Program all the other Stick Buttons...

Here is a BOE Profile for the ST290... Just Put The Files IN The Saitek/Software Folder and then Plug in the Stick and Click on the Icon in the Task Bar and Click the BOE1_Saitek Profile...

Download Here:
http://www.members.aol.com/normtrudeau/norm/BOE_Profile.zip

NOTE:
Saitek ST290 PRO

1) Install Driver 1st......st290pro_151205_32.exe

2) Install Profiling Program 2nd...... sst_151205_32.exe

3) Test Stick, and Have Fun...<:-))

4) ~Important Notice~

This product uses a dynamic auto-calibration system, which is designed to give you more accurate contro of your favorite flight simulation games through your Saitek Joystick... To Maximise the effectiveness of this feature, ensure that the stick is moved fully, forwards, backwards, and to both sides after booting up your PC and before loading up your game...!!!...<:-))

NOTE:
In the BOE KeyStroke Panel I Set the Stick "3" button to rotate Weapons..... and the "5" Button to give me Bomb Site... the DEMO is fun to land at the Air Strip "just before you get to the Battleship, that's the Repair station" Taxi around and Take Off...

Its also fun to Switch to Rear Gunner and Shoot Them Bugger's coming up on your A$$...

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it doesnt matter what the game calls the buttons/keys as long as it works until the 2nd patch get released. one of my axis settings was named as buttons when i set it but it works as a regular axis. its worth trying the settings and seeing how it goes.

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Originally posted by Judge-ArchAngel:
it doesnt matter what the game calls the buttons/keys as long as it works until the 2nd patch get released. one of my axis settings was named as buttons when i set it but it works as a regular axis. its worth trying the settings and seeing how it goes.

Judge,... On the ST290,,, Do you get a "True Rudder"...??? I Don't...

Judge can you Post a Screenie of your BA settings...

How about a Saitek Profile... Did you make one for BA...???

well since axis's are analog and buttons are digital it makes a huge difference

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Originally posted by GS_Beastie:

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Originally posted by Judge-ArchAngel:
it doesnt matter what the game calls the buttons/keys as long as it works until the 2nd patch get released. one of my axis settings was named as buttons when i set it but it works as a regular axis. its worth trying the settings and seeing how it goes.

true rudder as in twist stick and rudder moves just like Crimson Skies...... YES. joysticks are digital actually so even though the game calls it a button (game was originally made with gamepads in mind hence the control names) the actuall use of the stick is normal for me just like in any other flight game. i didnt make a profile for the stick i went "ingame" in my Blazing Angels" set up icon (when you install it asks if you want icons CLICK YES...it gives you an icon to launch the game and one for settings)and set each one as i wanted it to and tested it. made sure my throttle was centered and set throttle up and down. i admit i actually enjoy this game much more now and have fun flying it. when this 2nd patch comes out hopefully the forcefeedback issues are fixxed and the sticks have tension while flying and when an action occurs the forcefeedback kicks in. until then i will use my new (and much liked now until 2nd patch) Saitek ST290 Pro. when i can i will probably set a profile for the stick for the game but for now i just have the game controls set as i want them.

Judge,... On the ST290,,, Do you get a "True Rudder"...??? I Don't...

Judge can you Post a Screenie of your BA settings...

How about a Saitek Profile... Did you make one for BA...???

Judge,...
Here is My Saitek st290 Stick settings MAP... ALL functions work 100%...

NOTE: Pilot's if you have a Saitek st290... Your MAP better L00K like this, or your SCREWED...!!!...

NOTE: It was tuff getting the stick to MAP AXIS Settings... I didn't get the AXIS to MAP right until I went into the Saitek Control Panel, and set the AXIS's to a wide DEAD ZONE... See Screenies Below... After I got the BA Stick AXIS's MAPPED, I went back into the Saitek Control Panel, and Tightened the DEAD ZONE back up...

NOTE: Its nice having a Working Stick to KILL with...

NOTE: Pilot's if you are having Trouble Getting the st290 MAP, come back and I will give some Fine Pointers to get your MAP...

BA Control Panel:


Saitek Control Panel Dead Zone Screen:


Saitek Control Panel Dead Zone Screen:

You are beating a dead horse Beastie. He just refuses to 'get it'.

The disk does make a nice sun catcher when you hang it outside in a tree though.

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Originally posted by GS_Beastie:

Judge,...
Here is My Saitek st290 Stick settings MAP... ALL functions work 100%...



BA Control Panel:


Saitek Control Panel Dead Zone Screen:


Saitek Control Panel Dead Zone Screen:

i have the same adjustments on my st290 Beastie. and mine like yours works 100% fine. i actually enjoy this game and have fun now. though i didnt narrow my deadzone as much just so i had alittle "feel" or play if i twitched the stick alittle.... i tried it tight and with alittle "wiggle room" narrowing it as i went along to find a sweet spot. next time i adjust it will be totally tight with narrowest deadzone settings like yours.

just set it to tightest settings now and am trying it.......
just had to settle in and fine tune my settings was all.....

hey Blud E Guts if some of us have found a way to play the game and fly with a working stick and enjoy it..........so what....if you dont like the game or whatever....thats fine with us..... i dont hold it against you so please dont do so to us. no offence....just trying to be polite to a fellow pilot.

It's not a working stick, you are jumping through hoops to make play on the stick somewhat acceptable to you. Just like not having a true rudder is acceptable to you. I AM NOT going to go out and buy another stick that will still require me to tweak it to get it to kinda work. The game should not even have been released in the state that it is. I think that by reading the forums, there is a great deal of support for that statement. Some posts are even suggesting that UBI has deserted this game and there will be no further patches.

If you don't care about having your money stolen from you that is your choice, so be it, I know I don't. I will continue to slam the game and it's support. Sorry if you don't like it.

The SAITEK ST290 pro works with the patch that was sent. Although the only problem is when you try to set the buttons up, it will take a few times figuring it out. But it beats trying to use the keyboard. With out the patch, you will not be able to configure it. Once the patch is downloaded you will be able to configure the joystick.

JUDGE how did you get to the Saitek Control Panel? I can't find it in my computer. Was there some special software that you downloaded for this? Or did it come with the joystick?

Ok, I'm having a difficult time mapping the pitch up and pitch down. I have the drivers and control panel installed. It's a nice little $9 joystick.