http://www.crysis-online.com/

Giving us more time to play Far Cry and to upgrade our computers.

I was checking out the screnshots on that sight again. I just can't believe that that game will be playable for anybody who doesn't have the latest and greatest hardware.

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This delay is actually more good news than bad I think. It's rumored that DX10 will not be available at Vista's release, but rather later on as a download. Besides giving folks time to do upgrades as mentioned, the prices on the new stuff will likely drop a bit by April. There may be some needed fixes added to Vista by then as well.

Perhaps best of all is the possibility of Far Cry mappers and modders continuing their great work to tide us over, VIVA LA FAR CRY!

Unfortuneately a Delay spells problems... Thats always the case... Crytek doesnt wanna put out a lemon and for the bux that EA is dishing out Im sure they are pretty concerned about that too. Id bet Crysis is costing more bux than bf2 or 2142 to produce...Crysis will be just like FC when it was released, the x800 series was released a couple months after FC and it was still not enuff to get 60fps at max everything. So whatever is the best when Crysis comes out will probably not run it on max everything either.

I predict that CRYSIS will be a "me too" game trying to claim status away from GOTHIC 3. I've been a "benchmark" gamer for a long time, and this is nothing but DOOM 3 all over again. UBI blew it .. EA GAMES blew it ... and now they either have to delay CRYSIS and get back into the game honestly, or take a huge defeat at the hands of Piranha Bytes. If you want to see what I'm talking about, buy GOTHIC 3. I guarantee it will take you a minimum of 100 hours to complete that game .. more like 200 hours for those of us who do not cheat, and try to do the game honestly. FAR CRY was more like a 20 hour game, and certain people were claiming to do it in far less time than that. At $60 for a game, that gets pretty expensive, if you enjoy your evenings that way. At 200 to 300 hours, you now have a cost effective hobby, and a VERY enjoyable one at that. And YES .. G3 takes a top box. We are no longer waiting to SEE what CRYSIS might require. We KNOW that G3 will break a system, and we have a benchmark for future upgrades ... regardless of Dx10 .. or Vista .. or the Xbox360. Best of all, G3 is not an OBSCENE piece of drivel like "gears of war" ... and it is not calculated to appeal to the keybd beaters who could care less about environs or theme, and just want to hammer their controllers and scare little sisters. THAT WILL BE CRYSIS !! GOTHIC 3 is in the true line of development of future games, and deserves its rightful place as such. And we can thank FAR CRY for pointing the way.

Crytek are the ones that blew it, by not continuing a good thing when they had it. Heck, they could have even expanded their crew and worked on both Far Cry 2, 3 AND Crysis. The publishers are not like Wal-Mart, they aren't big enough to demand what content the devs create. They can only publish what the devs want to develope.

Come on though Johns, be realistic, Gothic 3 is by no means now or likely ever going to be setting the standard to follow. There's definitely reasons other than a high end PC being needed that the ratings are so low on that game. Speaking of publishers, G3 is a JoWooD Productions game. JoWooD really doesn't have a reputation for marketing good games.

JW has recently announced they are buying Dreamcatcher. Seems they're determined to continue their tendency to produce obscure bargin bin titles that most aren't interested in.

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Sorry Johns, I could just about get it if you were claiming that Oblivion had shown the way, but Gothic 3? I dont see the analogy. Still, I'm glad you have found something to your tastes.

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Crytek are the ones that blew it, by not continuing a good thing when they had it. Heck, they could have even expanded their crew and worked on both Far Cry 2, 3 AND Crysis.

Crytek put quality b4 quantity. They are producing a game that will push back the boundaries for an FPS.

As I said in our December article for our Crytek supported Crysis Modification Obsidian Edge 2, sometimes when you push the envelope, the envelope pushes back.
It was the same with Far Cry, what was it 18 Months or more late? And almost 3 years later we are still on a Far Cry forum...

Trust in Crytek guys, they will deliver another classic...

CuZ

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Trust in Crytek guys, they will deliver another classic...

I really hope you're right about that Cuz, though I don't see the time frame for developing a Far Cry 2 by now AND having made much of the progress on Crysis as being unrealistic or quantity over quality. The engine was already there to use and the story and characters only neeeded to be added to a bit. Given Crysis' much more resource hungry nature I feel late '07 to early '08 would have also been much better timing for those yet to take the uber rig leap price wise, choice wise, and driver improvement wise.

In fact, when you think about it, timing Crysis to release up to a year later may have been a lot better given the yet to be proven Vista and DX10. Though Crysis itself has yet to be proven it will likely be a big seller given Crytek's reputation, the long wait and it's advertising. I always feel a game's success has more to do with the opinions of those whom game avidly rather than market numbers though, we'll see how it turns out.

As for Far Cry being 18 months late, it was a first time project and not originally even intended to be a game. Add to that the fact that Crytek consists of quite a mix of different countries coming together on one project, developing one of the most revolutionary engines of it's time, and pushbacks being common in the industry, it's not surprising it was that late.

While I dont know Cevat Yerli, from the interviews you see, I get the impression that setting new standards is part of the kick for him and his Brothers. I just cant see them churning out another game just for the sake of profit, when they had a vision of what they could achieve...

Its rumoured that they had the HDR that 1.3 brought "in the bag" for months before it was released, but were waiting on the HW to be available to the public. I wouldnt be suprised if there was a degree of this involved with the development of Crysis. Certainly they have concentrated on taking the engine to the next level, which will allow them to take the game play through a similar quantum leap...

Dont get me wrong, I really wanted more Jack Carver, and have lobbied UBI at every opportunity to give us what we asked for. If and when they do produce a sequel for the PC, it will be interesting to see how it fares wrt to Crysis...

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I always feel a game's success has more to do with the opinions of those whom game avidly rather than market numbers though, we'll see how it turns out.

Interesting thought. There are games out there that have sold many more copies, and have far more active MP communities than Far Cry, yet it is still considered to be a huge success and even now is still used in benchmarking.
That said the hype you mention can work against a game. Look at some of the hysteria that has come about from the announcement of delays here... I get the impression its directly related to expectations... Anyway enough rambling... back to crossing fingers...

LOL, yeah, with Ubi at the helm now it will take a lot of finger crossing, don't know if I have enough of them. Not likely necessary with Crysis though, there will likely be enough enjoyable content in it to please most anyone into such games.

If you mean another FC game when you say just for profit, what about what they knew the fans wanted? True devs of quality don't think about just the money true, but you'd think they'd want to appease the many raves and give us one more, yeah I know, too late for that.

I just read the post about Far Cry Conspiracy, an sp mod being made for both FC and Crysis. First I've ever heard of such a thing, is there backwards compatibility built into Crysis or does he mean 2 separate versions being made?

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I just read the post about Far Cry Conspiracy, an sp mod being made for both FC and Crysis. First I've ever heard of such a thing, is there backwards compatability built into Crysis or does he mean 2 separate versions being made?

Unless all the models and all the code are 100% created by the mod team, even down to the trees, then no. UBI own the rights to the content of FarCry now and it would be copyright infringement to port them over to Crysis. Its something people are not thinking about, they are creating the maps and content that legally cannot be used in Crysis.

The only thing they can legally port over is the map heightmap, anything else in terms or models, code, textures, sound, is illegal.

I sincerly hope they are not wasting there time building maps for FarCry thinking they can just port it over. Legal issues aside, they are not thinking straight about the fact that the brushes and entities will not exist anymore in the new engine. I havent seen one single object in a Crysis video that is present in FarCry, therefore with 100% new resources in Crysis, it will be grey sphere graveyard for them, because the objects wont exist.

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...does he mean 2 separate versions being made?

He's answered this question on another thread since and it sounds like he's making two versions, one for FC and one for Crysis. He wasn't sure, however, if the FC one would be entirely completed if Crysis' popularity takes over to the point of FC being abandonded by most, which could very well happen.

Perhaps fear of that is one of the reasons I'm reluctant to support Crysis as much as some are, and not just for this one mod's sake. It's also the reason I'm thinking I should get the rest of the Far Cry levels I've yet to make videos of made before Crysis' release.