Airsoft does not hurt more. Not enough weight behind it. Plus, loose clothing will defeat most of the BBs energy, so sometimes you do not even feel the impact.

paintball for sure. it's yet to take up space at my precious gun shows. I don't go there looking for airsoft guns taking up 10% of the tables. I go there looking for things that will kill somebody if they need to.

If you haven't guessed by the user name I'm more than a little biased.

It's also a good thing they don't prune accounts here or I'd be a 2k6 n00b

EDIT: I feel all oldschool now, it's too bad a lot of my posts have vanished

Ok dont start me on all this **** about "paint ball guns shoot further", and thay may or may not hurt more. depends on where u shoot from and at what spot. Realisticlly airsoft is more accurate. smaller projectile. faster velocity, hence go fast hurt more, And in more of a concentrated area. Think putting 20 lbs of pressure on u with a large rock. now take a 20 lb poll and stand it straight up. what hurts more? the poll should hurt more. more weight in a smaller area. I am in favor of airsoft, but i would like to convince a friend airsoft is "better" but dont have alot of good reasons to.. I have a p-ball gun allready but I am thinking about airsoft. please e-mail me on what you think I should do and "WHY" my friend should go with airsoft. ty

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To make more comments you can get in to p-ball cheeper. And yes the guns suck. jamming issues. cutting balls. shorter shots, but if u spend about @150-250 on a gun they do work really well. I stick with tippmann. i have put over $500 just in to my gun. it looks cool. And at some times can shoot straight. but i thinking about going with airsoft, if i do i will be selling my p-ball gun. again does p-ball hurt more. Ya the Ammo is bigger and weigh more than airsoft rounds, but remember airsoft guns "not the cheep ones" shoot faster to make up for the size. I would suggest going with p-ball. overall cheeper guns, but i want to get in to realisum. cant do that with a p-ball that likes to do circles around the object u are shooting at. But if u are a close range player. "speed ball" more worth staying with p-ball.

bottom line u guys Airsoft is way better by a mile. Takes more skill (stealthiness) realistic guns that can hold up to 600 rounds with a high cap magazine. cheaper. It dosent leave retarded marks every where. Its not gay like paintball where u go around on a little inflatafield wearing bright colors and shoot paint at eachother. my advice for people debating is to play airsoft

or play RAP4.

hey im wondering is a beretta92a good gun it goes max velocity of 307 fps..... and i want to know the best way to clean them thing i head that you have to baby them if you want them to last a little longer.

Somewhere on the web, it is explained best (Wikipedia maybe?). Paintball is just a much faster, more intense sport. High adrenaline. There are paintball guns that look like real guns, but they suck. A good PB gun can probably be shot 150 feet. You aim with the paintballs, not with any sights or scope. So you rain them over a distance. they will only go straight for about 60-75 feet with a good gun, but you can feed your 200 round load (that's what you'll have with a PB) in seconds and rain an area on an opponent. Thus, it takes a hell of alot more speed and crouching. Quick, little kids are the best becasue when they run and dive at high speed it is difficult to hit them and then they are small so they can hide behind cover real good.

Airsoft is, as everyone has told you, more realistic. A real gun battle (say a swat team breahcing and clearing a meth lab), is so frigging intense because it is real bullets flying. When it is plastic BBs you won't gt that adrenaline rush. It's more like training. PB, on the other hand, goes for no sort of simulation of any real life situation. It's like a war and everyone has submachine guns (with 200 round clips that weigh only a couple of pounds) and they don't know how to aim them so they shoot them wildly and aim by how they are hitting. PB is way crazier. Hope this gives you the idea.

Cheating is another consideration, but people widely cheat in both. I have watched my paint splat on one guy three times in one round, and he just ducks down and wipes it off. Playing with good people will probably be the biggest factor of fun with either sport.

Airsoft also is big for collectors of firearms, who also collect the nicer airsoft guns (although people do pimp out their PB guns, who knows if they'll be worth anything down the line?).

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Originally posted by airsoftman4u:
bottom line u guys Airsoft is way better by a mile. Takes more skill (stealthiness) realistic guns that can hold up to 600 rounds with a high cap magazine. cheaper. It dosent leave retarded marks every where. Its not gay like paintball where u go around on a little inflatafield wearing bright colors and shoot paint at eachother. my advice for people debating is to play airsoft

paintball isn't gay. Our SPORT has payed atheletes. Nobody playing airsoft can be considered an athelete. plus the people who play paintball arent the nerds who get rejected by the Army. We'll see which one makes it to the Olympics first.

Airsoft is underestimated by a lot of folks. Obviously it's not as mainstream as paintball because lets not forget where paintball comes from. It started off in the woods but some liberals and soccer moms didn't like the fact these "guns" were called guns or were black/silver and some had wood stocks. The fact players were wearing safety goggles and camoflouge didn't help their case any better. So what happened? Paintball needed to save it's ass and didn't give a **** how retarded their image became in the publics eyes.

Hmm lets see, all references of guns were changed to "markers" yes calling a paintball marker a gun will get you flames like mad on any serious paintball forum. The idea behind the woods hasn't completely been dropped but starting to be as speedball takes over and becomes more a spectator sport than a hobby or simulation in the woods. Markers are changed to bright colors like blue and red and yellow and suddenly it's cool to have a big HPA tank and a fugly hopper on your marker. Cheating has also become something large in paintball, moreso than airsoft as a lot of users wipe.

I've played both, I played speedball for 3 years and airsoft for about 7 months and i'm enjoying it quite a bit. Infact believe it or not there ARE military practicing WITH airsoft guns now and here is the video to prove it.

http://www.fwbairsoft.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=13

Here are also some of my airsoft guns as well as a list of brands so someone doesn't get stuck with ****.

FTC Galil ARM


Tokyo Marui Desert Eagle



Maruzen Tec9



MMC L85A1 with asahi internals



G&P M4A1



KSC USP full size




By the way heres a compiled list of brands just so you know what to look for.

Gun Manufacturers and Their Specs

AE / ICS- Airsoft elite/ICs Makers of Aegs. Mediocre quality
control and reliability. Great externals. Bad motor. Bad gears. Good luck.
Improving greatly. AE mp5 3.5 is recommended buy.
http://www.airsoftelite.com
http://www.icsbb.com
Highend


CA- Classic Army. Improve greatly like ICS. Has some QC
problems, and reliability is similar to ICS. Good performance out of box. Good
externals.
http://www.classicarmy.com
Highend


CSI/ BE- Beats Neonfire in the ***. Good lpegs. Not aegs
though.
Lowend


G&P- They make what I think are under priced for the
value. They beat their competitors in quality most of the time. Midcaps are the
best of the market. Aegs have great externals and internals, though some
tweaking may be needed for it to be perfect. Not a beginners gun generally.
Highend


HFC- Taiwan manufacture. Mostly mediocre guns. HFC m190 and
usr-11 are the best I can think of from them.
http://www.hofeng.com
Midend


KJW- Pot metal used in their gbbs. Price is great.
Performance is good. I recommend the KJW m700 and the Para
ordnance series.
Midend


KSC- Japanese made gas guns. Very good quality control and
great performance out of the box. Many have nice trademarks engraved into them.
Downside is that like most Japanese guns, a plastic slide is used. More prone
for problems on green. Reliability is still awesome if taken care of correctly.
Full auto features on many of their guns is cool, but reduces lifespan.
http://www.ksc-guns.co.jp/
Highend



KWA- The export version of KSC. They have nice metal slides
on most. However, most KWA guns also sacrifice their trademarks. Performance
and quality is similar to KSC. Durability can be higher in many because of the
slides and the magnesium bolt ( for the m-11).
Highend



KWC / CYBERGUN - Great performing spring guns. Most gas guns are bad
however, with the exception of the mini-uzi and Desert Eagle.
http://www.kwc.com.tw/
Midend



Panther Arms- Makers of an all over mediocre aeg. I don’t
like them
Midend



Neonfire/Cyma- Makers of lpegs. Bad QC, bad performance. Get
a mini for god’s sake. Big gun though, and cheap.
http://www.cymawell.com/
Lowend



UHC- Unicorn Hobby Corporation. QC is very good; however
performance is only a bit above average. Reliability is very good and QC is excellent. Mainly
spring guns and gas guns.
http://www.toygunuhc.com.tw/
Midend



UTG- Under the Gun. Bad quality control and mediocre
reliability. Great performance for price.
http://www.leapers.com/
Midend



Tanaka- They make very expensive but high quality snipers.
Outdo the KJW copies any day. Also the maker of high quality revolvers. You can
trust Tanaka if you can pay for one.
Highend



Western Arms- Famous for their high quality gas guns.
Typical outstanding Japanese Quality control. Finish is probably the best on
the market. Downside is price and the lack of a metal slide. Great reliability.
http://www.wa-gunnet.co.jp/
Highend



TM- Tokyo Marui. Best starter gun anywhere. Makes
every type of gun. Japanese quality wins. Always shoots great. Generally, TM's will beat there competitors overall. Can’t stop jumping around
about their quality. Any TM is a good idea. However, price may vary good to bad. The finish on TM guns are good, but metal bodies are not standard.
http://www.tokyo-marui.co.jp/
Highend


Systema - Top of the line airsoft weapons. Very expensive. Developed for Law enforcement and military training
http://www.systema-engineering.com/English/home/ehome.html
Highend

These are modern airsoft companys. I also have a list of good retailers

http://www.performanceairsoft.com
-Cheapest prices in the US, american based company.

http://www.evike.com
-Great for bundle packages, includes everything you need if your starting airsoft, US based (California)

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com
-Cheapest prices world wide, sells a huge quantity of pretty much every gun out there except older rare guns. Based in Hong Kong (Be careful for now customs has been seizing redwolf packages in the past few days)

http://www.uncompany.com
-Good prices, hong kong based. Similar to redwolf

http://www.classicairsoft.net
-Not really a retailer but many people sell older rare airsoft guns on here, if your into paintball setups with HPA and CO2 you will like classics. They use an external airsource and this site sells many exotic guns

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airsoft

As for those saying airsoft doesn't hurt. Yeah ok



I guess we're still pansy men that wish we were in the military though right?

i am a real shooter and i must say nothing beats a real gun [Glock 23 40S&W and a 30-06 hunting rifle] but yes paintball shooting is realy a fun sport and if the corect safety clothing is worn its good for the whole family ,its fun shooting paintball and even pellet guns like here in SA butt shooting some one in real life aint a fun fealing you okes but hay enjoy it makes one a better shooter by betering ones aim and bulding real live tacktics just find the right one for your preferince.From sunny SA.

pix of welts from REAL airsoft guns no those cheap walmart/sporting good cheap guns!

http://kuyapj.com/bbdamage.jpg

http://kuyapj.com/realairsoft.JPG

http://kuyapj.com/realairsoft2.JPG

http://kuyapj.com/realairsoft3.JPG

but i still like both pb n airsoft. better then sitting at home playing counterstrike or halo n thinking ur the sh*t.

hey guys well check this out i found it and posted it the other day.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/833105922/m/2391050426

Airsoft, it only hurts if you get hit on bare skin or from point blank. Also airsoft can be more of a milsim game, and theres no mess. PLease check out my local airsoft pageAirsoft Louisville(ky)

airsoft is basically playing dress-up.

at least paintball is an actual game.

i dont do either anymore,but i used to play paintball(rec).

if i want a realistic looking gun,i go buy the real thing.

Well for the barbarians out there that like paint ball im going to have to disagree and go with air soft. More tacticall and less mess when not played in an arena.

What takes more skill? Playing in inclosed arena? OR plating with in a couple of square acres with as many scenarios you can come up with? Airsoft can require more skills than just shooting the other team or stealing a flag. But in all honesty I haven't played paintball so i can say much on it, but painballers game in the same area I play airsoft in. We play from 10am-5pm every other week, there seem to be several painball games while we have one continious scenario the whole day with one 30 min break.


This is the area ignore the overlay

Airsoft Louisville (ky)

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What takes more skill? Playing in inclosed arena? OR plating with in a couple of square acres with as many scenarios you can come up with?

when we played paintball it was in national forest.

thats why i wrote "rec".

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We play from 10am-5pm every other week, there seem to be several painball games while we have one continious scenario the whole day with one 30 min break.

thats probably because you cant hit anything past 5' and cant see it if you do.

ntm theres no way to prove a hit.

"i hit you!"

"nuh uh!i did the uber Delta roll and hit you first!"



we had all day paintball scenario's quite often.some lasted for 2-3 days actually,but not for me(never had that much free time when they were happening).

Actually all of my airsoft guns shoot at least 40 yards, some have upraded to have a range up to 70 yards but its rare to see. The only problem I've seen with people not calling hits is with new players or because they didn't feel the bb's hit. The beauty of airssoft is it doesn't hurt a whole lot and you just keep shooting untill they call the hit. I will give paintball a tip of the hat because there's solid proof you've been hit, and I'v been told it hurts like hell. Also painball guns seem to be harder to aim with the paintball loader atop of the barrel.

Is it easy for paintballs to freeze in cold temp? If so there's one more reason that airsoft is better option for me personaly. I'm a good guy, I can handle takeing a few extra bb's in case someone doesn't hear me yell "hit!", but I've been told that paintalls are brutal when really cold or frozen.

Anyway i couldn't tell you which is better but I prefer airsoft anyday. But in all fairness, I've never played painball, and the paintballers I've met at my arena happend to all be jerks.