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Why is it that all the game companies today have to take classic RPG games and ruin them with FPS. Why cant we just have the good ole RPGs of yester yore. Those are the games that we always talk about for years and years, not these crappy action versions. Why does every game company have to screw with this? Why keep trying to re-invent the wheel? Its obvious what people want, cant you just give it to them? Look at the polls, traditional RPGs man. Thats what M&M is all about.
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That's exactly what i said before .
And others before me . But is ok to say it again. And again. Maybe like this they will understand . Maybe. |
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maybe your just that narrow minded that you cant see how awesome this will be. that in using the source engine this isnt just a fps this is will be a great game with a idea on combat styles. and why would you just a message board just to tell everyone how bad you think something will be when you havent even played the game yet. lrn2enjoygames
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Watch you language CountJorg, these forums are rated E.
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sorry admin people who bash games they havent even seen really get to me. have you seen the purepwnage eps? i was just quoting. lol good times
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Well you make a good point, but you have to keep in mind that the Might and Magic frenchise has a large gathering of fans from the previous games and they were probably expecting a game similar to those 3DO/New World Computing made before they went bankrupt. It's natural they'll feel disappointed when they see the game's not going that way at all.
But it can be a good game even if it's not what the older fans expected of course. And no, can't say I've seen them. I just can't allow swearing here because there are a lot of minors (many even younger than 13) on the boards and the content on them should be appropriate for all those ages. ______________________________ Soup, soup, a tasty soup, soup, a spicy Carrot and Coriander, Chili Chowder, crouton, crouton, crunchy friends in a liquid broth I am gazpacho - ho - I am a summer soup - ho - Miso Miso, fighting in the dojo, Miso Miso, oriental prince in the land of soup |
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a discussion with you is pointles first of all you should read the description of the game( the official one ) then you shoul read the posts and try to understand what those people meant |
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QFE... can't be said often enough. I see you - when I turn away I hold you -when my hands are full I kiss you - when you aren't here - Freedom - Never shall you be more than a name to me |
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By my knowledge there IS a more traditional M&M game coming out. It just isn't Dark Messiah. From all of the previews I've seen, Dark Messiah isn't your typical RPG with a first person view. DM looks to be far more action based, and the one game I feel comfortable comparing a *fraction* of the gameplay to is Thief. This game is likely to be of the kind that's talked about and played for years after the fact. Just by the way the singleplayer game and the multiplayer mode is being setup. Lets be honest now. With the flood of "classic" RPG's that we've seen in the last 5 years how many do you suspect we'll really be "talking about for years to come". It should also be noted that back in the day, PC RPG's were traditionally first person. Take a look at Betrayal at Krondor. It's easily one of the first and best RPG's of all time and it's a first person rpg. It's also released as freeware, so look it up. |
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I still can't get into my head why this title uses the name of might and magic, when it is closer to the elder scrolls series.
Surely this game, (as good as it looks don't get me wrong it WILL be on preorder!!!), would be better called Elder Scrolls 5: The Dark Messiah, rather than dark Messiah of Might and Magic. Stu. |
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Ubisoft, or whoever is in charge of the M&M franchine now decided to redesign the M&M world. Since Dark Messiah is set in that world, it is titled as a M&M game, even though it isn't a traditional M&M game. (And I still say that Dark Messiah is more like Thief than the Elder Scrolls games.) |
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No offense, but some of you have a REALLY daunting ability to say some extremely stupid things.
Thankfully I don't have the time, nor the drive to point them all out. And hey, I have a genius idea? Don't like this genre of game? Don't like the look of this game? then JUST DON'T BUY IT. Oh my god, thinking of THAT was sure hard. |
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The problem is simply the name... why call it Might and Magic and cheat thousands into buying it because they don't know it has nothing to do with Might and Magic, except the name.
I see you - when I turn away I hold you -when my hands are full I kiss you - when you aren't here - Freedom - Never shall you be more than a name to me |
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Well, the proper term for such games is a "spin-off". MM has had quite a lot of those. The great nations have always acted like gangsters, and the small nations like prostitutes - Stanley Kubrick |
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That's perfectly logical, Secret_Holder, and the M&M hardcore know it to be true and are well aware that the M&M series may well be getting a good action-based spin-off at last (unlike the poor Legends and Crusaders), but to acknowledge this fact would mean they have nothing to whinge about.
And these people love to whine and twist and complain. Arkane's previous game, Arx Fatalis, had an excellent community on its publisher's forums, but sadly it looks like this one is to be plagued by illogical, petulant bleating for eternity. These are the same threads that have been appearing since first word of the game came out last year. It would be nice if those who have no interest in the game would just butt out and leave those of us who are looking forward to it to enjoy the forums, but it's not going to happen, even after the game is released. It seems "why do they all have to ruin it?" is a pertinenet question after all. Even though I know it's utterly futile, I'll repeat what I've already said countless times:
Has any of this sunk in yet? No, thought not. |
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 piln i'm sorry you have to see this but they are having the same reaction as i did when i first came here, i expected a real mm-rpg, but it turned out to be an fps 'kinda thing', so when i saw that i was really frustrated, but in time i learned to deal with it and so will they i guess after some time to get used to the concept. ************************************************   ()_() .(\__/) ( x_x) (+'.'+) ((")(") ('')_('') |
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Well... thanks
 I understand what you're saying and, yes, I can understand the disappointment to some extent.But I won't turn a blind eye to kneejerk expressions of that disappointment that are nothing more than poorly-researched flamebait,(the OP calls Dark Messiah a "crappy action version," which indicates a complete lack of knowledge of the project, or even of opinions on this forum). And nor will I tolerate outright lies, such as the accusation that Ubisoft are somehow tricking M&M fans into buying this game. This is nothing but trolling - if you people truly do not intend to provoke argument, then please think and do some research before you post. And be aware that on any forum, it is bad form to create a new thread on a topic that has already been discussed dozens of times. |
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Excactly! It's a spin-off and a damn good one by the looks of it. But I hope this story will fit in with HoMM5 and the maybe-soon-to-come MMX. That would give all these games the kind of "spark" or "charm" that the old MM and spin-offs had. The great nations have always acted like gangsters, and the small nations like prostitutes - Stanley Kubrick |
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I pretyy much agree Piln, excepto n point two... it aren't only those who want to play who buy the games, there are things like presents and such... grandparents and the such aren't exactly known for being the best with PCs and the like... And untill now it has only been Legends that difeer a bit from the taste of most MM fans, and that isn't the most fameous game, so it isn't before now the may discover that this MM isn't anything like MM... But hey, they might be nice enough to make it perfectly clear just how different this is, if that is the case it'll be one of the first times I see that...
And I also reserve myself the right to whine untill MM X comes  I see you - when I turn away I hold you -when my hands are full I kiss you - when you aren't here - Freedom - Never shall you be more than a name to me |
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Even though i haven't played the m&m games in the past and i have only seen my friends playing heros 3. i still think you all should have a more open mind about games there titles and that the company that makes them dont change the games style to make poepl mad at them but only in what they think would please the largest croud. and me being a new fan of this up and coming game i think they have made a bold move and i think because im telling you about it that there marketing is working. maybe they need a new fan base and ive been waiting a long time to join this one.
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