I'm playing with the thought of organizing a series of dm tournaments but the first thing I need for it is the interest of the rest of the comm.
If there are not enough people who want to play I don't even need to try, easy as that.
The tournaments would be hosted at a site like Turnierportal.de or a similar one (doesn't matter that this one is german, the tournaments would still be international)
I will start thinking about all the other questions (mode, playing dates, rules and servers) when I know that we can keep it running for a while

So to cut a long story short: are you interested in a dm tournaments or not?

p.s.:It would be nice if someone would translate the essential infos and post it in the other dm forums (with a link to this topic as I don't want to check 4+ topics ^^) (there is no need for a german translation as I can handle this myself)
p.p.s: If you are going to translate pls tell me as we really need as many people as possible to know about this if we want this to work


Some random facts (as in the only things i've thought about regarding the tournaments by now)

- This is a pure community project; i simply decided to start this cuz noone else did- That means: I want propositions, i want you to show me that it is not wasted time, i will need your help organizing (and for sure that means that there won't be any prizes; just to make that clear)

- There will be balancing changes (one will surely be fireorbs, more to come) as the game is not really balanced for 1vs1

- I plan to start with 2 leagues- one clanbased and a 1vs1 (can be changed if the comm wants it- but the second will in any case be one in which you can participate without being in a clan)

- Other possible modes could be
class 1on1 (like only warrior/archer/mage etc. tournament)
FFA/Crusade kind of thing with random teams
more to come (you could also suggest some)
They all could run simultaneously if there are enough players participating

- I plan on having one trustworthy person watch every match as the replay function is flawed (looking for people there- i will be one of them for sure but i can't really watch over my own games; these persons will also need to check the serversettings and have the right to punish if someone should break the rules)

People/Clans who showed their interest by now:

AvA
CA (thx for offering an american server)
EYE (here again a thx to EYE for promissing to inform other clans)

Out4Blood4 (if i didn't get him wrong; well anyway thx for bringing the idea of class only torunaments back to my mind)


And here again (can't say it often enough): Any help beginning with telling other people about it is appreciated

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Cups as in drinking cups? Tournaments would of made more sense :P.

Otherwise: Good Luck with it!

well in the original text i wrote tournaments but a friend of mine convinced me to change it >.<

well anyway... changed

are we tlking about 1 vs 1 or clan tournements?

If clan - AvA is interested

cheers

(*AvA*)Carrot

well as i said- at first i only want to know if there is interest
if there should be enough people interested i could also try to organize several leagues

I, myself, and the CA communtiy are interested.

Also, you said international. If it is going to be, then please for what is left of the American player, please make it fair.

The server I host, is the exact server for which could be used for tournys. That way The internationals can play, say one match euro, one american. That way BOTH sides will at least lag once

Thanks

GodFather[-CA-]

well that's 2 clans up to now
maybe i should have said this in the beginning: also single persons who are not in a clan are allowed to post here
one part will surely be clanwars but i see no reason why there couldn't be also 1vs1 or random team tournaments

Well, I would love the 1vrs1's

Though, the only problem is... Eh..... balancing?
I may as well be a Priestess at level 3. Though like I said. Cerebral Palace can become custom for it. Say if agreed increase cost on brambles or stoneskin or whatever the reasons.

That way the priestess can't do its normal Stone/bramble/staff strategy. Taking out every class with ease.

Also not to mention the mage, one vrs one they basically are also the winners. I think some disables or a few nerfs to some skills would be appropriate. Yes I know the old "I'm way to good I can kill you even if your a priestess or mage" Yes that is true, thats how I work a lot of the times.

Then again, you fight a decent or a good priest/mage, it really does not matter what class skilled class you are. Most likely it will end up in a draw with a fireball destroying both of you, or the you just get mowed down!

Cheers

GodFather[-CA-]

There should be an archery contest, to see who has best accuracy. And an art contest, to see who is most artistic;
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/808101043/m/50...971051765#1971051765

I am, and our [EYE] team are interested in tournament. I will send this information to all active Russian clans [HBD] and RGC| so they could support this.

Best Regards

[EYE]Borbel

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Though, the only problem is... Eh..... balancing?

I'm aware of these problems but as i said i won't spend much time thinking over possible balance adjustments and other server settings until i don't know if it is worth the time
though when the time comes i'll most probably have found several ways to balance and i'll then talk back with the ones who are interested

one change i can however gurantee for right now is that forbs with mastery won't do 100+ dmg

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I will send this information to all active Russian clans [HBD] and RGC| so they could support this.

this is pretty much appreciated- thx

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There should be an archery contest, to see who has best accuracy.

yes class only tournaments are also an option (thanks for bringing this idea back to my mind ^^) but the more tournaments are planned the more people need to take part so i'll probably start with one for the clans and one for the clanless (if at all- we have a maximum of 6 clans by now (starts to be enough))

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And an art contest, to see who is most artistic;

not that i wouldn't like the idea- but believe me; you don't want me to be judge in any art contest
but if there are enough interested in it a forum poll or something could surely be organized

Good posts, love the archer duels touny (if it takes place)

Now, I can also help if you wish. Since I have a good server and what (yes america) Though Americans should also undertake as well

I can make a Mandatory Client Side Plugin (for the tourney) which would disable the inbuilt hacks that Kuju added to the MP game(The speedhacks, etc),

If you didn't have that plugin you wouldn't able to play on the match server? XD

sounds great!
That surely would be a huge help keeping it clean

Sounds like a great idea i would like some tournaments

Also, I will post after a while, I have some good ideas. Not enough time to post it yet


Though, I can also let everyone know from CA of the tourny, and anyone that gets on the CA server that there will be a tourny hosted

I am glad you are doing this Dark. I was getting around to it, but actually a league first, before a tourny xD

Thanks

GodFather[-CA-]

Okay, I was wondering how you were going to get a server?

Inless mana or another clan that has one and provides one. That or you get one for yourself. I really doubt anything would come of it.

Also, P-chan and I have a lot of balancing tweaks in a cvar already. If you would like to see them, then I would gladly send them to you.

Also, no matter what I can use the [-CA-] server. I know from statistically and mana can back me up on this as well.

Hardly any Americans play anymore on the Online. Only euros mainly do now. So I was thinking you could just use the server for the tourny. If you get a duel with an american and a euro. Then we could go the normal 1. American server 1. Euro server to make it fair.

Then again everyone would lag I understand. Though just a thought I am suggestiong. I don't want any conflict with other clan and there servers or you just to purchase or have to provide. After all you do have enough on your hands atm.

Anyways, the balancing part is quite well, I will post them if you want me 2. That way you can have a look at them and have any other suggestions

I also know you are wanting active admin, that also would not be a problem. I can have anyone be active admin.

Cheers

GodFather[-CA-]

ok bring your balancing suggestions on

as for the servers yes i think one time eu one time us is the best solution
i myself will try to organize a 10slot server and maybe some other clans can provide theirs aswell?

expression of interest for my clan T5

however its a little hard since we're from Australia (timezones/ping and all!)

i like godfathers idea. one home game one away game. i 'may' be able to get 1 australian server. if i can then we're in otherwise we'll be no match with 300 ping.

lanc3r[t5]

Agreed there

I can only think of one problem that would arise from a Eu/U.S/Ausie Problem. They are american and say they lost to Eu but one in U.S

How would the winner be determined? That or if no winner would be?

For the Cvar changes, There are 2 different types of changes though of. If you want to know why the changes were made then please ask.

The changes were not made by my own commands. Came to this by taking polls and what the "communiy" wanted while on the server. All of them were tested, and by my intentions it is all actually pretty well balanced. However you do get the "complaints" because it is a change, people were not used to it.

Once people got used to it Crusades/TDM/ or any type of game mode was a lot more even. Right now here is what they are

Server change 1

project_shield_activation_delay 0.1 - safe guard is nearly cast at an instant, but mana cost is higher
project_shield_mana_cost 60 ----- Increased mana, but now safeguard is cast at almost an instant
firebombed_damage 50 -------- Orbs no longer do insta kills
spell_flame_arrow_cool_down_time 1 ----- Flame arrows now have a longer cool down, but increased damage
spell_flame_arrow_damage 15 ------ increased damge, but longer cool down.
spell_rail_gun_lightning_cool_down_time 3 ----- Longer cool down time, also rids the "bug"
spell_lightning1_level1_damage 7 ---- damage was lowered, mana cost was lowered
spell_lightning1_cost 10 ---- mana and damage was lowered
spell_toxic_cloud_range 100 ---- increases the range that toxic cloud can be cast
spell_fireball_speed 200 ---- Slower fireball, archers now have a better chance to shoot down a fireball. Damage was increased
spell_fireball_damage 77 ---- increased the fireball damage, but nurfed the speed
spell_fireball_cost 42 ---- fireball cost is less
shield_always_block_arrows_distance 1000 ------- Experienced archers can now hit a warrior's head/feet while the shield is held. Suggesting that now warriors must succesfully block an arrow
weapon_daggers_backstab_align_angle2 50 --------- fixes the backstab bug
gas_trap_activation_time 2.5 ------ Enemy classes now have a chance to escape assassins bombs

I hope you like the changes, they are all self explanatory

Thank you

GodFather[-CA-]

Oh, also LockOn has been a key debate as well. A lot of people despise it, a lot of people want it.

I have came up with the idea for either 1vrs1 it is disabled. That way you can show more skill with your crosshair then with the movements. Also for it to be enabled for the clan wars or other game types. That or vice versa as in. Disabled for combat in Clan/ Other modes. And enabled for 1vrs1's

To me it does not matter,though from what I have seen from playing DM for so long. I advise it off, Having lock on makes your client aim for you, not the player them selfs. For competition only skill and strategy should be undertaken to have an outcome of the best.

All in all I would advise it off for 1vrs1's and enabled for clan matches.

Thanks again