Ok, so like many of you I am very disappointed with Ubi's decision to not release the SDK for Dark Messiah. Now I don't know if any of you work with either Ubi or Arkane but can anybody help me to understand why they decided to NOT release the SDK? As far as I know, Arkane had completely finished it and was ready to release it, but Ubi said "NOT GUNNA HAPPEN!". This seems completely idiotic it won't cost them any more money because all the work had already been done! If they're worried about distribution costs, well there are many free file hosts around right now. Are they worried about support? Well don't support it! Seriously, just say users are on their own, but please just release the SDK!

Seriously, from what I can tell, Dark Messiah isn't selling real great anymore, THEY AREN'T GOING TO LOSE FUTURE SALES if they release it! In fact quite the opposite! By having an SDK, they will help to create an active modding community behind the game, which will make the game more popular and sell better! Just look at Oblivion, it has TES Construction Set, a great, easy-to-use modding tool, and just look at the massive user community behind Oblivion!

What kind of idiots are running Ubisoft these days? Sorry if this sounds like a rant, it is sort of, I'm just frustrated at Ubi.

I agree with your post, CyberCat. Wondering the same...

just a thought tho!

maybe Ubisoft dont want to realease it, cuz then DM:E would sell less then ppl think, make own singleplayer maps omg cool, then the 3 new chapters ( aint in 3 chapter) in elements wont be anything compared to the sdk, just a thought

Well CyberCat... I totally agree with you... But you have to understand that Ubi is turning more and more to consoles, and have on several occasions almost said "we h8 PC!!" . Sony/MS/Nintendo etc. they all want to profit from their game industries... and are willing to pay massive loads of money to get there.

But, not all the fault is on them... it's partly on the gamers. Why? Piracy. That's not something that will be stopped. Ever.

A great thing could occur, and that would be if there would be more pirated games for the consoles, that would seriously balance things, but that won't happen in the near future either... Unfortunately.

It's a real luck for us PC gamers that there still are industries that favour the PC. Crytek, Activision, Infinity Ward, Firaxis etc. They provide us with games faster than anyone else. When they release a game, there is no 6 months wait for the PC release.

But, in my opinion, the PC has much more gaming capabilities than any console. Superior graphics, shooters can't be played without the Mouse/Keyboard, and the best thing: Mods.

Mods make a game great after it gets boring, they bring something new, something interesting, something to explore, something to kill. Pick one!

Imagine what a BOOM would it be if the SDK would be released, i think it would be exactly what happened with Morrowind/Oblivion, so many great mods, that you don't know where to even begin.

Niclyk's got a point as well, maybe the SDK would be released if the Elements weren't released. Who knows?

I, for one, think the SDK will be released. But when/how/where... Only Ubi knows that. Unfortunately

i am sory... buy what is SDK?
its a moding tool?

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Originally posted by Behemoth2008:
i am sory... buy what is SDK?
its a moding tool?

Yup, it's something like the Construction Set for Elder Scrolls games, or the Crytek Sandbox for Crysis.

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Originally posted by Behemoth2008:
i am sory... buy what is SDK?
its a moding tool?

SDK stands for Source Development Kit!

I may be mistaken; but I hear UBI is just the distributer, witch means they have little control over things like SDKs, or squeals.

UBI got the licence and in the end they are ones who decide what to happen with the game and trademark.

EDIT: thought I should find the link backing up my claim
http://forum.arkane-studios.com/viewtopic.php?t=34

There is a petition that you should probably check out
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/darkmessiah/index.html

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Originally posted by Uniq8:
There is a petition that you should probably check out
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/darkmessiah/index.html

Already did that... I'm #47 Mario Toncer.

What I don't get. Say if they want DM:E to sell more. It is only on 360 anywho.

As for PC, giving back the SDK and getting more people to buy it... either way they make more money. Elements does suck and I for one bought this game for its Multiplayer. It was just what I was looking for. Yes it is pretty much playing your neighbor friends here in America (DMTav) You see them all the time pretty much -_-.

If they would release the SDK, I bet my left testicle that DM would have another uprising on both ends of the gameplay (single/Multi)

DM was bundled with the February issue of "Giochi per il mio computer" magazine...

So, no, I think sales won't grow up so much anymore...

R.I.P DM

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So, no, I think sales won't grow up so much anymore...

R.I.P DM

This is good because even more people can discover this fantastic game now. So why R.I.P.? Not at all.
It's just that Ubi's financial loss (or lack of profit, whatever) on DM is now even bigger. And it's all their own fault: marketing~ and support failure.

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Originally posted by BlindNero:

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So, no, I think sales won't grow up so much anymore...

R.I.P DM

This is good because even more people can discover this fantastic game now. So why R.I.P.? Not at all.
It's just that Ubi's financial loss (or lack of profit, whatever) on DM is now even bigger. And it's all their own fault: marketing~ and support failure.

TRUE!! i agree its ubsioft didnt put enough "soul" in the game by this i mean.. their **** support and the fact they didnt let Arkane and Kuju fix bugs and make more patches.. but well i dont want to spend all my money either :P

lol
you're talking about "soul" amidst minions of undeads...

Arkane and Kuju would have made endless patches, just to ensure themself easy money...
They had their chances to improve the game.

Consider that the most mod teams "playing" with Source, usually make little code-tuning, and lot of new content.

Indeed Ubi support is just disappointing...

Well, I think Ubi is just trying to be more evil than EA, like that's possible, but who knows?

wow Ubi got Xana inside...

To be honest, I would rather play on a 360 with better Multiplayer and the such

Sad thing is, multiplayer sucks on Consoles. o0 it is just sad

I play halo 3 quite a bit (love the game hate how the connections work)

Anyways, they said average latency is 80ms.... WTF! Idk about you say i was the average in a Battle rifle fight with the host uh.... 0 Latency agains 80ms... I am quite sure he would win

Not fair. If they would add dedicated servers to popular areas such as Chicago, NY, Texas, Atlanta, Cali. The big areas that is. Everyone Ping would go down.. I am 5 hours from chicago thats 20ms :S

This peer to peer bull is dumb. But ANYWAYS

SDK should be let out, You know what though, I bet people on the 360 side read these forums and hear about these bad things, I bet a lot of them turn away. I also think the PC version will still sale the 360's Elements. It just isn't good I played it

Well, from the looks of it, filefront got ahead of us, www.darkmessiah.filefront.com They already have mods for this game! So, maybe the SDK is out, but we haven't found it yet.