Hmmm. I beated chessmaster 10 but very unfairly. Chessmaster had 2 minutes and I had 2 days. I did not used any computers, but I used a lot of books. It was not a fair game, but I think that I learned from this game a lot. I had to studie and I had to think long and hard. You should try it. Its quite a fun.
Already have hehehe you can look at the game in the first thread Best games at the very top and at the bottom it has me vs. Chessmaster 9000 but not 10th Edition. I had about 30 minutes though and he had 1/min per game.
i would never beat chessmaster 10th edition, but i make them fite themselves for enemys to get a good game..leave em on overnite. oh, and um....garry kasporov would pwn chessmaster i really like chessmaster
can you please annotate as much of this game as you possible feel like? the more the better... especially the two piece sacrifices in the beginning.. but if you could find the time to annotate everything, that would be great.
I don't think chessmaster actually plays at 2940 like it says on my computer. The elo's of the computer players seem slightly inflated.
I know I play at nearly 2400 ELO, but I should be no match for Chessmaster, at 2940. However, I am 2-2 against CM so far. Unless my rating has magically risen, CM is weaker than 2940. He made clear, subtle mistakes in the games I beat him, however, the two I lost CM completely pounded me into the floor lol. So I'm not sure, maybe CM plays closer to 2700 and i've improved/got lucky.
However, the first time I beat Chessmaster it was clearly very confused. It actually popped up saying I had made a blunder. Chessmaster was oblivious to the long term effects of my move; I won easily. It was CM's blunder, not mine.
How do you record the game so others can watch? I have a screenshot I took of me beating shakespeare (2708). The game is over at this point, he can't get out of checkmate. It's quite beautiful actually 8)
CMX's rating is definitely inflated. I think at slower speeds Chessmaster would probably be more like 2600, around the strength of a strong grandmaster. However, CMX is much, much weaker in bullet games and faster blitz games. I'm not sure exactly where the transition occurs, but that is probably be what you're experiencing.
True, Wikipedia says CM plays at about 2715, but that's assuming the engine has time to think things out properly.
It appears when you pressure CM on the clock it tends to make a blunder. However, if it doesn't blunder, the strength of CM is pretty obvious, and I wouldn't doubt it plays at 2700.
I wouldn't be able to beat it in a classic game. But then again almost noone would. I'm happy as it is with my 2-2 against it.
FIRST of all im orignially from tawian an island near china. i learned english, and i just type to fast and make too much spelling 'erors' (noticed how that is spelled wrong) next, u can beat chessmaster, but out of a long term 50 games? another story. and um...CH10 rating is around 2750 in real official ratings.
FIRST of all im orignially from tawian an island near china. i learned english, and i just type to fast and make too much spelling 'erors' (noticed how that is spelled wrong)
If you recognize that they are errors, typing too fast is no excuse. We have as much right to be annoyed at you for those errors as we would if you were American
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and um...CH10 rating is around 2750 in real official ratings.
Look, I've played against chessmaster many times, and even though I'm not at the engine's level, I can tell you it's nowhere near 2750 (what are these "real official ratings" anyway?). Chessmaster may be strong tactically, but it can be very weak positionally when you get it into the right position.
next, u can beat chessmaster, but out of a long term 50 games? another story. and um...CH10 rating is around 2750 in real official ratings.
I'm going to experiment with this to see how powerful chessmaster is in the long run.
Chessmasters ELO probably is near 2750 in a classical match, due to it being a computing monster, with the extra time it wouldn't surprize me that it would find moves the human player cannot and foil any human attempts on it. The computer also won't miss a potential checkmate.
Chessmaster plays a very strong blitz, however, it is not blunder free, which is chessmasters problem. It is definitely a stronger player than me (2400~) but, it made a very big blunder I would not expect a human player to make in our second match. It was a very human oriented move, CM completely overlooked the checkmate and felt the move was OK because of a material advantage. Seems like CM started flipping through moves and simply saw the material advantage, and simply grabbed it because of pressure from the clock... and then after 10-20 more seconds of looking through moves realized it had just lost XD
can you please annotate as much of this game as you possible feel like? the more the better... especially the two piece sacrifices in the beginning.. but if you could find the time to annotate everything, that would be great.
I did my best . I'm pretty tired, but I think it should be readable. Actually, now that I think about it, I forgot to explain those two sacrifices. I'll go do that now...
wow, thanks.. i appreciate that.. that was a fantastic game and it definitly deserves to be up there on the user game java viewer. and the annotation is a real help... i'm surprised chessmaster made some moves that it did.. but that shows that it was very confused by the attack it was facing.. it couldn't decide between position or material strategy and because of that it got burned. i know i have questions, but it's mostly about the subtle moves... and why the smallest move can make the biggest difference... i'll post them tomorrow, because i, too, am tired right now.
Also goes to show chessmaster doesn't understand the clock XD
It didn't have to force a draw, but chessmaster didn't want to lose his position and give me the advantage, so I quickly abused that to force draw, even though CM could have easily won simply because of the clock ;o
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