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I am playing on a very rookie level (<1000), and when I move, the computer INSTANTLY has a move.

I understand this is because I am on a very simple level and the computer does not need any time to think about the moves, but it feels very un-realistic. Is there a setting/option or a way I could make this do a pause at least 5 seconds before it does it's move for a more "realistic" feel?
 
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I must also mention this is very unfair since the computer time does not run down at all. I am 10 moves into the game, and the computer has 10 seconds off his time. Its very unrealistic that a human would be able to make moves this fast.
 
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Somehow, my post was removed, so I'll try again... Confused

No version of Chessmaster allows you to add a pause before a move.

Keep in mind that while the personalities are programmed to mimic humans, it only goes so far. You're still playing against a computer.

If you want realistic play against a human, you'll have to find a human to play with. Smile
 
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Well, gee. We didn't we all just think of playing with another human in the first place? Sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees, I guess...(insert smiley here as if to break sarcastic tone and say ho, ho I'm just kidding...)
Anyway, I find this really annoying also, and for all that chessmaster is that the designers did not build in this one simple but extremely experience-enhancing feature, I do find myself scratching my head. To add to it all, the computer opponent always has a clock--as the previous poster mentioned--which seems to suggest that a delay mechanism was SUPPOSED to be there. I think the program even goes as far as letting you enter certain time parameters for moves as well.
SOOOO...why can't they just build the damn thing in, at least to humor those of us who were too dense to consider just playing with another human being. It's absurd.
Anyway, thanks for the info.(repeat smiley)
 
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If you would play against a human opponent and he would move instantly, would you complain about it?

If your opponent makes moves without any thinking then he can't play strong, can it? Why do you think they are rated so low? Wink

Play a higher rated opponents and they will take their time. But don't come here to complain that the computer opponent is taking too much time Smile
 
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Exactly how would adding a pause before a move enhance your experience? It makes no sense whatsoever...

As Ebutaljib said, play a higher rated opponent.

You can also set the time controls to infinite time, too. That will give it a pause... Wink
 
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to gopelty-gook user name:
If my human opponent moved INSTANTLY EVERY SINGLE MOVE OF EVERY SINGLE GAME I just might consider not playing that person again--IF I thought that would change things. So NO: I DO NOT think this is a case of discrimination against non-human chess opponents...
Your second point here ignores the fact that a pretty WIDE RANGE of computer opponents always move instantly, and I do believe it's only the monkey player who moves "without thinking". That's WHY HE'S A MONKEY. THE OTHER PLAYERS ARE HUMAN AND SUPPOSED TO BE THINKING. BTW, ARE YOU A MONKEY, TOO? Smile
Adding a pause allows you to consider various moves that your opponent MIGHT make, which not only similates an actual game but also serves a didactic purpose--at the very least--especially useful to the less-experienced player.
Why do you people find it so freaking inconceivable that this feature could be desirable? The number of views on this topic attests to peoples' interest in this point, even though sycophantic advocates of ubi soft might attempt to blow the question off to cover up a flaw in software design.
But it's nice to know that setting the time controls to infinite will give you a pause. This is good information. I'm wondering why this wasn't mentioned a long time ago because that is PRECISELY THE QUESTION that was asked. Instead out came this song and dance about if you want a "human" experience, then play a "human"...
Anyway, finally : an answer. Thx & toodle-ooh..
 
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1.) You seem to know very little about how computer plays chess.

2.) You have to understand that you can't influence your opponent time. He can do what he wants with his time as you can with your own. If your opponent moves instantly or if he takes all his time to the last second, that is none of your bussines.


3.) And no, the other players are NOT human. It' is a computer you are playing with Smile
 
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Permit me to repeat myself:

to gopelty-gook user name:
If my human opponent moved INSTANTLY EVERY SINGLE MOVE OF EVERY SINGLE GAME I just might consider not playing that person again--IF I thought that would change things. So NO: I DO NOT think this is a case of discrimination against non-human chess opponents...
Your second point here ignores the fact that a pretty WIDE RANGE of computer opponents always move instantly, and I do believe it's only the monkey player who moves "without thinking". That's WHY HE'S A MONKEY. THE OTHER PLAYERS ARE HUMAN AND SUPPOSED TO BE THINKING. BTW, ARE YOU A MONKEY, TOO?
Adding a pause allows you to consider various moves that your opponent MIGHT make, which not only similates an actual game but also serves a didactic purpose--at the very least--especially useful to the less-experienced player.
Why do you people find it so freaking inconceivable that this feature could be desirable? The number of views on this topic attests to peoples' interest in this point, even though sycophantic advocates of ubi soft might attempt to blow the question off to cover up a flaw in software design.
But it's nice to know that setting the time controls to infinite will give you a pause. This is good information. I'm wondering why this wasn't mentioned a long time ago because that is PRECISELY THE QUESTION that was asked. Instead out came this song and dance about if you want a "human" experience, then play a "human"...
Anyway, finally : an answer. Thx & toodle-ooh..

Alright. Now come again?
 
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Justwalks,

Despite your use of smilies, you're being overly sarcastic and insulting. Consider yourself banned for one week.
 
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No, don't do that KHollister. I find it amusing.



Justwalks, which one of my points did you answer? Am I now supposed to copy my post too?



I think you should consider not playing computer personalities that move instantly. I mean you said that you would consider not playing against a human that moves instantly, why are computer personalities any different? Play those that don't move instantly.

Besides I don't know what your problem is. For example if you play a 10 minute game and you are always running out of time, then why just not make it 20 minutes per game next time? Thats the same as if you play 10 minutes per game and both opponents use all their time.



There, now you can post the same thing again Hammer
 
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Hey e,
Mind if I call you e? It's definitely an upgrade from goplety gook. I misjudged you. And when I think about it, all my ranting is pretty amusing. You seem to be a good-natured, good-humored sort of fellow and have made some genuine attempt to understand my frustration with this program.
But K, you went and banned me.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
WAAAAAAAAAWAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH. Crying
What kind of freaking cry baby are you? Why don't you go tell your mama?
Saying I'm 'too' insulting, 'too' sarcastic. I suppose it's a matter of degrees with you. You met timbojangles with BOTH of those things. "Just play a human". What sort of smar tass comment is that to be mediating a forum with, YOUR MAJESTY?????????? When it comes to 'insulting' and 'sarcastic' it has to be just so, or banned you get. oh, that's good.Clap You f'n make me laugh. Profile And then to hold back on exacly the information the person asked for back in January. JANUARY.
Ban me for a week...You'll just get my sequel you weiner cry baby. CryingWaaaaaaaaaaah, Waaaaaaaah, cry little baby Crying and hold other people to different standards and ban them if they point out what a self-important mockery of mediator you are you pathetic piece of ...
Ban me for a week. WHAT did you think I was going to do, come back and hang my head in shame? REflect and return with a statement concerning the error of my ways? What kind of little doll house do you think you're running here Big Mediator Guy?
 
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justwalks2,

I gave you a chance; all you had to do was wait a week.

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed yourself. Your one-week ban just became permanent.
 
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Yes, blame it all on the moderator. It's his fault that you can't communicate normally Roll Eyes
 
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Yes CM10 has some major flaws the speed of moves is just one. Not sure if its creators really play a "nice" game of chess.
 
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Again, there are several factors that come into play when discussing speed of moves... mostly, the max search depth of the personality -- the higher rated personalities will have a higher search depth, and therefore take more time to move. I suppose you could also try turning off Pondering as well.

I still say that if you want play that is just like a human, you'll have to play a human. Smile
 
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