In the cut scene it looks like they cut off Gabriel's right hand finger but in game it's his left hand that's missing a finger. Bug? or am i going crazy?

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Originally posted by Synboi:
In the cut scene it looks like they cut off Gabriel's right hand finger but in game it's his left hand that's missing a finger. Bug? or am i going crazy?

no, your not crazy. just one of the many fumbles in this game.....

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Originally posted by humpadiddy:

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Originally posted by Synboi:
In the cut scene it looks like they cut off Gabriel's right hand finger but in game it's his left hand that's missing a finger. Bug? or am i going crazy?

no, your not crazy. just one of the many fumbles in this game.....

Yeah, Free Radical should all be shot for this tyrannical sin against humanity they have caused against us.


...Its your god damn money, spend it wisely. Also that goes for your time, spend that wisely, IE Not on an internet forum of a game you despise.

..... heh if I’m paying $120 NZ I’d like them to at least get some consistency when it comes to character models. + they don't really bring that up in any of the reviews or synopsises that I’ve seen.
Also a little less fanboyism and bit more common sense and civility would be a appreciated .

Like I said, its your money. I would look over a game before I pay $120 NZ for it... like hmmmm this game has a 4.5 review by IGN and nothing higher than a 6 in most other sites, maybe IT BLOWS! Its your fault, and you should feel a little silly for buying this game really.

As for me, I trust Free Radical because Timesplitters was fun poo, and I won the gamble and like the game. Its not an all-time classic, but its fun for me because I bought it for a REASON.


Now as for fanboyism, did I ONCE say in my post that I liked the game at all? NO, I said watch what you spend your money on, and that which hand was injured in a game is not of my concern.

I spent $60 on this ****, and by spending money on this piece of ****, I have every right to be in this forum complaining......

IGN gives Haze a... 4.5
Gamespot gives Haze a... 6.0
Game Informer gives Haze a... 6.3
GameTrailers gives Haze a... 6.2
GameTap gives Haze a... 6.0
GameSpot gives Haze a... 6.0
GameZone gives Haze a... 5.5
PSX Extreme gives Haze a... 5.1
GameSpy gives Haze a... 4.0
1UP gives Haze a... 3.3


You must feel like a regular Einstein of cash right now... You spend your (WHAT SEEMS BY WHAT YOU SAY) VERY PRECIOUS money on a game you obviously didnt research.

Anyway, why again are you on a forum of a game you hate?

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As for me, I trust Free Radical because Timesplitters was fun poo, and I won the gamble and like the game. Its not an all-time classic, but its fun for me because I bought it for a REASON.

Enough said you're a rampant fanboy and not only that but your posts also ooze the thick slime of fanboyism. That aside I never said I hate the game I infact quite like it (don't assume I hate it just because I notice a flaw). I however believe that there are some serious problems if they can't even keep cut scenes consistent through out the game. A 6/10 or a 4.5/10 is due to the bad textures and gameplay etc. no where does it mention that the cut scenes are shot in an alternative dimension etc. I’d personally stick it on a 2/10 for campaign and a 6-7/10 for multiplayer.

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Originally posted by Synboi:

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As for me, I trust Free Radical because Timesplitters was fun poo, and I won the gamble and like the game. Its not an all-time classic, but its fun for me because I bought it for a REASON.

Enough said you're a rampant fanboy and not only that but your posts also ooze the thick slime of fanboyism. That aside I never said I hate the game I infact quite like it (don't assume I hate it just because I notice a flaw). I however believe that there are some serious problems if they can't even keep cut scenes consistent through out the game. A 6/10 or a 4.5/10 is due to the bad textures and gameplay etc. no where does it mention that the cut scenes are shot in an alternative dimension etc. I’d personally stick it on a 2/10 for campaign and a 6-7/10 for multiplayer.

7.5 when I play as a rebel
8.1 when I play as a mantel trooper (mantel fanboy and proud to admit it...still don't think Haze is the **** like it was hyped up to be.)

Anywho, WarHam isn't a fanboy, I've seen his posts beforehand and trust me on this..oh yeah, there are a few people you should look out for like humpadiddy and HazyNector (nice job mispelling your name ya ****.) they are internet trolls or atleast humpadiddy is, HazyNector just seems like a whiney ***** to me...

need proof? humpadiddy's posts to people who LIKE Haze have been editted by mods several times, nuff said.

Fair enough, if he isn't a fanboy then i'm at fault. I just get sick of fanboy posts, that's all.

I really liked the mantel part of the game but i found it wasn't really long enough and we didn't really get a chance to use all the mantel weapons available (sniper {Would have been fun to play around with that on the introductory level} and rocket launcher). I would have liked to have seen more weapons but by the looks of things they were in a bit of rush which is understandable.

who the f*** cares. we are on a forum for a dookie game. trolls, fanboys, forumtards, what does it matter? theres not anything any one is gonna say to change the fact that the game is poo. the people who call this game incredible arent fanboys, they just have a skewed perception of quality (like matrix fans). people who bash it arent trolls, they just dont understand the difference between sub par and horrible. in either case, no one should ever have to defend their views out of fear of being called a troll or a fanboy. sure they exist but, and i know its a scary prospect, not everyone falls into those 2 catagories. personally, the only reason i enjoy haze is because its run n gun mechanics are pretty solid, but just because i enjoy it on that one point doesnt mean i dont recognize it as poo.

anyway, yeah the hand thing is pure retardation. its not a bug, or an butt mechanic, or a glitch. its an embarassing oversight in the continuity department. not a gamebreaker, but someone in FRD is slapping themself in the forehead for that one. cmon folks, if we cant make fun of something like this, then what can we make fun of?

There's nothing more comical than seeing a bunch of disgruntled gamers on a site for a game that they don't really like. They have to convince themselves the game is ok. If that doesn't define retarded, I don't know what does.

It's about as retarded as buying a game that got poor reviews and then you sit there wondering why the game is no good.


What the hell was wrong with the movie Matrix? Someone has a blind third eye.

Don't give us the 'nobody has to buy it' nonsense, that doesn't give companies a green light to dump whatever trash they like into the market and blame the consumer for buying it.

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Originally posted by GBB_Doramascher:
Don't give us the 'nobody has to buy it' nonsense, that doesn't give companies a green light to dump whatever trash they like into the market and blame the consumer for buying it.

Well, how can it be nonsense if it's true?
FRD didnt exactly hold the world at ransom and demand that you buy it did they?

And one mans trash is another mans treasure, its not like FRD has some mass conspiracy of making a crap game and then going Muahhaa.. now we wait for our money!!

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Well, how can it be nonsense if it's true?
FRD didnt exactly hold the world at ransom and demand that you buy it did they?

Yep, we're into illogical hatred of the customer here. FRD didn't demand I buy it [which is why I partook of a strange and degenerate ritual known as renting it instead], but they had dozens of developer interviews and trailers in which Haze was very much built up as the next big thing. When it turns out to be very much a generic shooter, the buying public has every right to be upset. If you chose what was described as a delicious steak at a restaurant and got a colostomy bag full of angry termites, I doubt you'd accept someone telling you it's your fault for paying for it.

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And one mans trash is another mans treasure

Nonsense, there are plenty of things that are unequivicably wrong with Haze, barring outright lying to yourself. Sure, some people might still enjoy it, but the singleplayer is weak, short, and has no replay value whatsoever because of the near-complete absense of unlockable content or alternate paths. Given the singleplayer is two-thirds of the game [it's the co-op maps as well, after all] and you're therefore supposed to play it multiple times, that's more or less an outright failure to provide an adequate product.

Did you choke on that thesaurus?

Anyway, you basically contradict yourself, by first saying you rented it and then go onto say that the buying public has a right to be upset. Of course you might not be referring to yourself but as you go onto complain i can't tell whether you consider yourself part of the buying public because you didn't really buy it did you?

Well, obviously FRD built it up, you wouldn't make a game and then in the final stages start making videos going "wow our game is so bad!"

You know the food analogy is completely different right? i mean a steak and a "colostomy bad full of angry termites" are completely different things in every aspect.


At the end of the day everything you or I say is simply a matter of opinion, and i only post on these forums to argue when someone starts throwing their opinion around and saying "wow the graphics are so bad the game sucks" to be honest that is just your opinion and not an actual fact of life.

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Did you choke on that thesaurus?

I wasn't aware being educated was a bad thing.

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Anyway, you basically contradict yourself, by first saying you rented it and then go onto say that the buying public has a right to be upset.

People who rent are part of the buying public too. If money's gone out of my pocket for playing a game, I'm a consumer, and effectively part of the buying public.

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Well, obviously FRD built it up, you wouldn't make a game and then in the final stages start making videos going "wow our game is so bad!"

Why make a bad game at all? Clearly it was known something wasn't right, or Haze wouldn't have been delayed so many times.

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You know the food analogy is completely different right? i mean a steak and a "colostomy bad full of angry termites" are completely different things in every aspect.

So are a good game and a bad game. Ok, if I found instead of delicious beef, the steak was actually stray dog meat. Would I be at fault for buying it, or the chef for creating it knowing full well most people wouldn't be happy with it?

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At the end of the day everything you or I say is simply a matter of opinion

No. There are objective ways to define a review; the entire point of it is that it is not just an opinion. Citation of specific examples and mechanics, for example. Saying all reviews are just opinions is like saying all science is just conjecture.

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and i only post on these forums to argue when someone starts throwing their opinion around and saying "wow the graphics are so bad the game sucks" to be honest that is just your opinion and not an actual fact of life.

That's just an opinion, yes, because there's no supporting evidence. However, what if they posted, for example, video of looking at the sky in the swamp level and then turning, showing the square 2-D 'things' above you that rotate to face you, or hi-resolution screenshots of the horrible texture on the side of the container ship? I'm fairly sure only someone being truly perverse would argue those as anything but concrete examples of the graphics being poor.

I think iv been quoted more than Martin Luther King Jnr...

Using big words doesn't mean you are well educated.

Yes, but you just previously said "i partook of a strange and degenerate ritual known as renting it instead" which your basically calling renting and buying it different things. You may be a consumer which gives you a right to complain, however by your own standards your not a "buyer".

Once again it is just a matter of opinion, FRD thought it was a good game, they thought it was suitable. You act like everyone thinks its a bad game, i'm not calling it perfect or great but it is not the worse game in the world. I could say "wow cod4 that game is about as much fun as watching paint dry", in a general sense i am right but that is my opinion of the game even if you or some others may find it the greatest FPS to ever sit in a games console.

On a side note, why do you have a tendencey to refer to food? if you use an analogy try using a game, then i would not be able to object to it.

Yes. At the end of the day a review is just a fancy way of saying opinion. I could go round and say "Resistance fall of man is stunning in every aspect" and label it as a "review" but its still an opinion.

wow a heated debate, to the first part of thisw thread yes they have the wrong hand, regarding the game online is cool the gameplay is good simple


whoevers sigs i nicked and got messed around with hope you like it

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Using big words doesn't mean you are well educated.

Neither does it mean you're using a thesaurus.

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You may be a consumer which gives you a right to complain, however by your own standards your not a "buyer".

That's more hair-splitting than anything else, though.

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Once again it is just a matter of opinion, FRD thought it was a good game, they thought it was suitable. You act like everyone thinks its a bad game, i'm not calling it perfect or great but it is not the worse game in the world.

I myself don't think it's a bad game; there's some element of hyperbole to the examples given; as I noted in the thread I posted, I regard it as mediocre, not bad.

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On a side note, why do you have a tendencey to refer to food? if you use an analogy try using a game, then i would not be able to object to it.

It's hardly an analogy if it refers to the same thing you're actually talking about.

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Yes. At the end of the day a review is just a fancy way of saying opinion. I could go round and say "Resistance fall of man is stunning in every aspect" and label it as a "review" but its still an opinion.

You could, but it would be an opinion, not a review. The point of a review is to state the supporting evidence for a particular conclusion; this is why I don't think much of people who just go by review scores. What matters is the body of the review that's used to justify the score, since that's where all the relevant information should be. Broadly, if a review is just 'I don't like this game' then it's just an opinion, but it should be more along the lines of 'this game is poor in comparison to equally priced game X for reasons A, B and C.'

Writing off all reviews as simply opinions is just lazy, since it avoids addressing the arguments used to justify the scores they give.