it only tooke me about 10 minutes to download

The issue arose when you started making assertions that weren't exactly factual. That this game is HD when these games are not. Truth be told, anything is HD when it's upscaled. However, several of the games you mentioned as the basis for your argument, were in fact upscaled from non-HD resolutions. (720p is the lowest resolution you can go before it's considered HD, it's not anything above 480).

A number of people spoke up and indicated the error. But, it was summarily discounted and so on. A link to a website confirming what we were discussing, was provided. Also discounted. Unfortunately, this discussion came down to your word...vs the world. Which just isn't going to fly when there is material within hands reach that states otherwise.

Now that you've explained your original intent a bit better, I have a few more constructive things to add however. The 'graphics engine' in the PS3, varies, from developer to developer. From studio to studio. Insomniac does not use the same 'engine' as FRD. FRD does not use the same 'engine' as Polyphony Digital. The engines used in these games differ wildly, as their applications differ. One studio may not be as thoroughly focused on delivering a game @ 1080p at 60fps, as the other. The other studio may actually be working to innovate elsewhere. With so many different types of 'engines' (also called middleware), it's no wonder that performance varies. And as Tanner pointed out, these consoles are the first to provide an HD experience, and as with ALL consoles, the first and 2nd years games, aren't even remotely close in quality to what you'll see 5-7 years into their lifecycle. Take the PS2 as an example...load up that wonder of a game 'Star Gladiator' which was nearly a launch title for the PS2....then throw in God of War 2. Tell me the differences aren't massive.

Time is needed to properly get every single ounce of performance from a thing...this has been proven time and time again in consoles, and PC's alike. These newer gen machine's are no different. While the majority of cames currently available running at 1080p @ 60fps. There are some...and my guess, is those numbers will continue to rise in the coming months/years of the 360/PS3's life. For now, Uncharted, and GT5P are sufficient...and in the near future, WipeoutHD, and GT5 the full version will also certainly be native 1080p. I would imagine we can expect the same from FFXIII, possibly Gears of War 2, probably Resistance 2, and beyond that...it's really up to the devs to truly understand how to maximize the performance of these machines.


Morne

Surely this dicussion is a wee bit off topic?!
Lets just stay on-topic and say the demo is a blinder of 1 and that if it anything togo by the full game is gonna be an absolute BELTER!!!

M

Fair point, and well put.

This is my first post

Man i got lucky.

I went to my uncles house last weekend. I checked and seen if i had awirreless conecction on my PS3.(i don't have online on my house.) And i did. So i downloaded the haze demo(first thing i did) And played my games online.( this was at like 3:00 in the morning.) and i was waiting. A long time. I fell asleep waiting. I woke up intalled it and played it. I have played online a couple of times. But now i'm back at my house and i don't have online so i play haze at least 1 time a day. (i now can beat hard mode without dying)

And thats how i got lucky. Cause Turok was my first online experiance. And Then the Haze Demo.

I'm really mad that i don't have online. Cause i can't enjoy my ps3 as much. But the 3 days i had it. I t felt great. Best viseogame experiance i've ever had.

Ps i'm buying haze on the 23.

Good story, glad you enjoyed it. It's a shame you can't play online, but at least co-op splitscreen can keep you busy, and don't forget you can add bots to multiplayer matches.

Welcome to the forum BTW.

Hi guys..I have a question about Haze in germany:Is the german version uncut?

[QUOTE]Haze is PS3 only.

Who makes Haze? Do they make 360 games

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Originally posted by OneManArmyT22:
[QUOTE]Haze is PS3 only.

Who makes Haze? Do they make 360 games

free radical made haze.timesplitters 2 and 3 are for the xbox, but so far, so 360 games. haze is the first game for this gen consoles. the secret lucasarts game will most likely be multiplat

LOVED the demo played it many times - only problem was that graphics werent wat i was hoping 4 but after seeing recent screen shots though maby the demo was just an old build. 2 things i noticed 1 when u see the groups of butterflies if u stand perfectly still in the middle of them & take nectar 1 will land on ur gun probably an effect of nectar like the sunny sky - only seen it work with mantel assult rifle 2 if u shoot ur team m8 in the head & kill him - he has 2 land on his back - then zoom in on his visor just B4 his body vanishes the visor appears cracked & u can see his face - i may b wrong but would like 2 b a rebel 2 fully check this out. P.S dont ask me how i found these out but basically i hav way 2 much time on my hands add me on ur PS3 my ID is scotland92

I've recently been confronted with a problem on the HAZE demo. I'm fed up with people who get close then melee your back. Then you go crazy and you have a nectar leak and after they hit you a SECOND time, you die. I want to know if these people want to be alone in their Demo (highly unlikely) or they're anxious for the real thing with the multiplayer to come out.

the final game will be at 576p, but i'd rather have that and smooth framerates than a 1080p game with spikes. also, in the beginning of the demo, one guy says "good thing its a sunny day (or something like that)", showing the nectar manipulation. god i love this game i didnt notice the butterflies though, so thats a good point

Yea Scotland88, good observation.

well the good thing is you can make your own private room and kick people out (i think).

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Originally posted by mn21:
"god i love this game "

Agreed

The demo has great game play and sold me on it.
but the only thing i did not like was that it was hard at times 2 no were to go

Your next objective is shown on the radar bar at the top of the screen - just follow the direction indicated by the Mantel insignia.

@ mn21 - Private rooms are definetly an option.

@ luke3v0gt - love the sig.

OMG it is just 3 days until Friday 23rd & i get my hands on HAZE i can hardly contain myself i hav been lookin 4ward 2 this game for almost a year now and based on the demo its gonna deliver especially playin the multiplayer split screen online with my friends - WarHawK has gotten a bit stale - the only problem is that im 16 and i cant tell if HAZE will B an 18 or 15 restricted game ( in Britain we dont get M ) i keep seeing both age restrictions everywhere - i cant tell which is the right 1 do u think the final game will B the same age restriction as the demo? - 15