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A couple bad reviews....yeah I would have liked the reviews to be better. But you wanna know what? Opinions with logos stamped on them can't sway my own.

Because in the end that is all a review is...an opinion. Theirs may differ from yours. I love the hell out of this game and I wont stop playing it anytime soon.

If you are on the fence then rent it, but if you like what you have seen from gameplay vids and the demo, don't be discouraged! This game has gotten several good reviews too, they just don't get the publicity that the haters get!
 
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i admit it was surprising to see so many low scores (averages around 6/10, but i want to still try this first hand for myself and make the judgment.
 
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the game is out in 2 days 4 me - reviews or not im getting it coop and playin it online split screen multiplayer will b gr8 fun im sure, but if all the bad reviews r right (despite the few good 1s) then this game will b one of the biggest flopps in the history of gaming
 
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I'm not worried at all... There are sites that rated this game high, and some not; that's why it's an OPINION. Just like god of war rated low on some sites... and we all know how wrong they were on that one.
 
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After seeing many of these sites rate Wiifit so highly, I can't trust them
 
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Originally posted by NeoTechni:
After seeing many of these sites rate Wiifit so highly, I can't trust them


Perfect example! I mean, c'mon! Wii fit doesn't even look remotely fun and I don't see anyone playing it past a month, especially when they don't lose weight. Balancing on one foot is fun... HOW? I don't see the difference between Wii Fit and watching a warm-up tape.
 
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omg! wiifit!

that game is awesome!

I lost like 2 pounds in an hour...

lol.. sarcasm Big Grin


 
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WiiFit? I think Nintendo wants all its gamers to have fun and be more interactive...instead of playing videos games stationary.


"If games make you violent, does monopoly make you a millionaire?" - ???
 
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Originally posted by pixelsword:
I'm not worried at all... There are sites that rated this game high, and some not; that's why it's an OPINION. Just like god of war rated low on some sites... and we all know how wrong they were on that one.


Can you point us to the sites that Rates Haze high?
 
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Hopefully, like alot of people say, Haze is a game you either hate or love. The only thing I am worried about is how many will buy it and how long online will life on it. Indifferent

Atleast the game provides bots and splitscreen thats a relief. Thumbs Up


 
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Originally posted by pixelsword:
I'm not worried at all... There are sites that rated this game high, and some not; that's why it's an OPINION. Just like god of war rated low on some sites... and we all know how wrong they were on that one.


Can you point us to the sites that Rates Haze high?


Famitsu, for one; Ign UK for another... they're out there... I don't know why US sites rag on the PS3 like they do.
 
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Originally posted by IrishBrewed:
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Originally posted by pixelsword:
I'm not worried at all... There are sites that rated this game high, and some not; that's why it's an OPINION. Just like god of war rated low on some sites... and we all know how wrong they were on that one.


Can you point us to the sites that Rates Haze high?


Famitsu, for one; Ign UK for another... they're out there... I don't know why US sites rag on the PS3 like they do.


Famitsu is a freaking Japanese mag, they will rate virtually any FPS highly. IGN UK gave it what, a 6?
 
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ya this game is not getting the credit it deserves.

Is it a Halo Killer? Nope

Is it a solid, fun game, with alot of replay value? Yep.

Fun game, glad I got it.
 
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Originally posted by BuddyFlashheart:
Famitsu is a freaking Japanese mag, they will rate virtually any FPS highly. IGN UK gave it what, a 6?


Um, typically they hate FPSs. They even hated Perfect Dark 64 which is the best FPS ever
 
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Originally posted by Striker7251:
Because in the end that is all a review is...an opinion.


Wrong, actually. A review is a series of logical arguments designed to demonstrate the validity of a particular conclusion. If a review was just an opinion, it would be a single sentence long.
 
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Not so sure about the one sentence thing... I've read some pretty verbose opinions.

I hear what you're saying, GBB, but most reviews do contain opinions like "horrible voice acting", "terrible story", "bad graphics"... these are all subjective. Beauty does lie in the beholder whether you agree with it or not.

Now, on the other hand polygon count, frame rate, draw distance, popups, supported resolutions.... those sorts of things are technical aspects that are not as subjective.

I think the problem a lot of the fans had with the negative reviews was the negative opinions and maybe a lack of pointing out the technical merits such as Haze being the only fps on ps3 with online, offline, campaign, splitscreen multiplayer. However you feel about voice acting (which can be muted for MP) if a gamer is a fan of multiplayer and splitscreen, Haze hits the mark pretty well and offers some fun elements like nectar, nectar grenades, vehicles, knife throws, overdose, etc. All of which work very well.
 
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Originally posted by GBB_Doramascher:
Wrong, actually. A review is a series of logical arguments designed to demonstrate the validity of a particular conclusion. If a review was just an opinion, it would be a single sentence long.


LOL - I had to laugh at that one.
Here is the definition of opinion. A few actually.

a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
the formal expression of a professional judgment
a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc

It's an opinion regardless of it's length, and you know that.


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Originally posted by SpiritualZombie:
I hear what you're saying, GBB, but most reviews do contain opinions like "horrible voice acting", "terrible story", "bad graphics"... these are all subjective.


No, not really. The lack of voice samples is objective [there's what, five idle, five spotted and five kill calls for the entire rebel army, all people putting on bad accents that slip a lot?] and bad graphics is a pretty solid point: there's horrible texturing issues throughout, pop-in, and by the time you reach the Land Carrier it's clear they just couldn't give a damn anymore.

And the story is logically inconsistant to the point whole sections of it don't make the slightest bit of sense [fireflies?], so that can be objectively judged too.

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I think the problem a lot of the fans had with the negative reviews was the negative opinions and maybe a lack of pointing out the technical merits such as Haze being the only fps on ps3 with online, offline, campaign, splitscreen multiplayer.


It doesn't really matter when you still have to put up with uninspired enemies, dreary weapons, boring, linear levels with no replay value, a half-dozen or so multiplayer maps and stupid enemy AI. Yeah, lots of people can play the mediocre game and suffer together, deep joy.

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However you feel about voice acting (which can be muted for MP) if a gamer is a fan of multiplayer and splitscreen, Haze hits the mark pretty well and offers some fun elements like nectar, nectar grenades, vehicles, knife throws, overdose, etc. All of which work very well.


No, they don't. The Nectar mechanics are basically Crysis' Nanosuit abilities minus all the good ones, the vehicle levels are hampered by AI that can't shoot straight and mines that can't possibly damage you if you just drive through the whole level really slowly, and by vehicles taking idiotic amounts of damage for minor scrapes.

If a gamer is a fan of multiplayer and split screen he'll be familiar with good games that have these and so will find this even worse than someone who isn't. What you're doing is like arguing that a world-class chef would be willing to eat out of a trashcan because he really likes food.

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Originally posted by maxpontiac:
Here is the definition of opinion.


Reaching for the dictionary is the sign of a bankrupt argument.

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It's an opinion regardless of it's length, and you know that.


It's not just an opinion because objective facts are used to support the conclusion. If you classify a well-argued review as opinion, you would also have to regard a scientific theory as one.
 
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I didn't know Crysis was available on ps3 with multiplayer splitscreen support. Awesome, I'll go buy it today.

"By the time you reach the Land Carrier"... Dude, that's like stage 2. You talk about bad AI in the vehicles, that's irrelevant in multiplayer. This is a multiplayer experience above all.

And now you're saying that playing the game is like eating out of a trashcan? Dude, don't be such a little snob.

Obviously... Haze has hurt you deeply. I think you need to let go of that hurt and move on. There are a lot of games, my friend, and you will know when you find the one for you. Never stop believing. Smile
 
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Originally posted by GBB_Doramascher:

Reaching for the dictionary is the sign of a bankrupt argument.

It's not just an opinion because objective facts are used to support the conclusion. If you classify a well-argued review as opinion, you would also have to regard a scientific theory as one.


Not exactly. Certain individuals such as yourself (the type who throw their over inflated opinion around as fact) sometimes fail to realize the meaning of any given word. I simply brought this to your attention.

Please. You speak as if every review is a fact. Why is that all the reviews differ from point to point, even if it's marginal? Is everybody wrong? Right? No. It's about maintaining the proper point of view. Everybody see's things a little bit different.

See, you did it again. You mentioned a theory.

Here's this defintion for you.

a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena
a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.
a particular conception or view of something to be done or of the method of doing it; a system of rules or principles.
contemplation or speculation.
guess or conjecture.

Theories, are not facts. Opinions are not facts. And yes, a review is not a fact either.

Understand? Smile


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