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Originally posted by SteelBunny:
oops This is interesting I sign on as BattleBunny but all my post come up as SteelBunny. Now im lost. Gezzzz
M1 how do I correct this. I go by BattleBunny and have for 20 years. I do use Steel Bunny once in awhile but only if someone has stole BattleBunny!

Ed
BattleBunny

Ed, I've checked, and you do have another account with the user name of battlebunny, but according to the info, you made it over 3 years ago, and have never posted with it.
It also has exactly the same email address as SteelBunny, so it doesn't look as though someone else is using that name.

Yes CoD WaW is a good game if u like Run And shoot games .. there is no tactics just running around an shooting

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Originally posted by SteelBunny:
Hi Azerp

If you are refering to "Medal of Honor-Airborne" That game was also great. But BIA is a tad better. The story line is just solid in BIA. But saying I would still say buy MOH-Airborne its a really fun game. Heres my scoringon a 10 point basis for war games. Single player mode.

1] BIA-Hells Highway 10
2] MOH-Airborne 9
3] COD5 4

Ed
SteelBunny

But to think about it MOH Airborne had copied BIA by far. But BIA is not as old as the first MOH game is it?

First of all, what kind of ignorant casual gamer claims graphics as a reason for one game being better than the other? I thought we all figured out that gameplay>graphics years ago.

Secondly, the COD series is not a real military shooter, it's just a casual arcade shooter dressed up with WWII graphics. Characters move at a speed comparable to Quake 3, making things look entirely ridiculous, and animations are generally not so great either; it looks like you're watching a silly "fast forward" sequence on a reality show. This isn't really about the graphics, this is about the unrealistic hollywood pace to combat. More importantly, the weapons, particularly in COD4 and 5, have such little recoil that it feels like you're shooting squirt guns. Back in COD 2, things weren't that bad and weapons like the M1 Garand and SVT 40 actually had a decent amount of kick. However, during the transition to "Modern Combat", the developers got confused when they were implementing assault rifles, and as a result, all the rifles ended up like COD2 SMG's with M16 and AK47 skins. Ever since, all rifles in the COD series, even those firing the heavy .308 and .30-06 rounds like the G3A3 and M1 Garand, kick like bb guns. Not only does this kill the immersion and realism of combat, but it kills the amount of skill involved, since no matter what, you can just spray and pray or mash the trigger with little aiming involved. Rifles have essentially been removed from the series in place of SMG's with rifle skins.

On top of that, the level design, AI, and general gameplay of the COD series is just totally arcade and ridiculous. It relies entirely on respawning and scripted events and is essentially like an FPS version of beat-em-ups like Final Fight and TMNT: The Arcade Game. It's just a 1-man army blowing through waves and waves of enemies over and over till the end of the game. The AI may be able to throw grenades back at you, but that's just about all they can do that resembled intelligence; they're easily blown away and they rely on the next guy to respawn for there to be any challenge in the game.

The COD series is mildly entertaining, but ultimately just a silly casual-friendly arcade shooter with "world war" paint jobs so people with ADD can pretend they're playing a realistic game. BIA is not perfect, but it succeeds in many crucial areas where COD fails completely, including weapon mechanics and tactics.

You know what, screw this I'm done trying to compare these because these games are two very different types of gameplay. So I'm gonna go for the big picture....

JGnam-Ignorant gamer?.....really? So basically what youre saying is, if Madden 09 for the 360 had the graphics of Madden 01 for the n64 it would still be better than any sports game out there. DUDE WAKE UP!! MCFLY!!!??? How could you say that graphics do not matter!!!?? It's the age of next gen gaming!!!! Graphics are supposed to be freakin' amazing!!!! That aside level design, compare the textures and effects of the two and than we'll talk. They're both linear with one or two extra paths so you can't really complain there. IN GENERAL COD 5 is just a better game than BIA:HH, is COD 5 a better game than BIA:RTH30? Absolutely not. That game had it all together but HH does not. Look, I'm a gamer who prefers squad based tactics and strategy and I think that COD 5 takes the cake for WWII shooter for 2008.

I'm gonna have to agree with alextlaoe on this one. BIA was a big letdown, gameplay and graphics wise, and COD was a big suprise to me gameplay and graphics wise. Also the weapons sound and fell amazing in COD 5, considering the fact the in the past COD games little attention was shown to the weapons. The graphics in COD are truly awesome and the gameplay actually does call for tactics in some points. No disrespect to BIA (because the old one were the best) but COD 5 defintely does get the prize for WWII shooter of the year.

Whats with all this talk about graphics. geezzz come on guys. alot of that depends upon your video cards. Plus thats not what makes BIA so great. Its the story thats does. I just finished the game and one of the last comments they make is "To be Continued" Yahooo. What really seperates BIA from COD5 is the story. Its far superior than any wargame ive ever played and belive me or not ive played a ton of them. I cant sit here and say BIA's multiplayer is better than cod5 because I got wrapped up in Baker leading his squad in the single player mode. There is one thing ive noticed in cod5 that is new and i might really like is the new Coop mode. That should be interesting. Please understand all my posts have had to do with the single player mode. Not the multiplayer, thats next on my agenda. Why not stop arguing and just do what I did, BUY both games. problem solved. lol. I promise you if you buy just these three games you will have a blast. They are:

1] BIA-Hells Highway
2] medal of honor - Airborne
3] Cod5

Thats not a ranking either.

Heck you cant go wrong if you own them all LOL.
funny but still very true.

Ed
SteelBunny

PS If i should suddenly start typing in caps im not yelling, i just got this new x6 keyboard from Microsoft. I like it but its a tad finiky.

Hi Alex

God are you in for a shock. The graphics on the PC at least are ok even good but they do not surpass those of BIA. The one thing no one talks about but is really amazing in both games is just how far weve come with the AI of the games. The enemy soldiers are far superior than previous years. For example my squad in BIA had punched a hole through the German lines. when all of a sudden we found ourselves out flanked. Heck not just outflanked but encircled I could actually see the German soldiers running around our side. God what a mess I got us into, felt darn good about myself till I noticed that. My point is that the bots have really come along way no matter which game you own.
By the way we fought our way out but the AI bots are darn good shots now days. So be carefull. Dont be so dumb as I was to get ourselves in a very bad position. These AI bots now days just dont miss to often and being flanked by bots is rather embarrising. LOL

Ed
SteelBunny

Hi there

Acutally MOH-Airborne came out about 3 to 6 months ago. Long before BIA-HH The graphics and game play are really smooth. But it doesnt have a great story line. Its more in line with COD games but just more fun and def harder. That the single player mode now.

Ed
SteelBunny

PS I died 20 times fighting the Italian soldiers before i got to see my first Reg German Infantry. The sergeant in charge then tells me. Those are German infantry and they know how to fight! Like I really needed to hear that LOL

Ed
SteelBunny

Call of duty5 has zombies yea that does justice to the men that died in WWII. If you think its Authentic you must be on f***ing crack.

You don't actually fight the zombies in the game, ya dingbat, it's an unlockable mode that you can play just for fun. In BIA it slows down and zooms in when you blow peoples arms and legs off or blow their heads off, so don't even say that does justice to the veterans.

I haVE A POLICY OF NOT REPLYING TO MESSAGES WITH CLOWNS THAT MUST SWEAR OR BE IGNORANT.
So I didnt see your message was it scrambled? lol

Ed
SteelBunny

Yup, I think, i dont really know but it seems they did that to satisfy those who want alot of gore. But im just guessing.

Ed
SteelBunny

Yea but BIA is Authentic online and off thats what makes it so great. Even if it is just online mode its a bit funny to be running around shooting zombies in a WWII game. As far as the Action camera It might not have been the best choice but its nothing like zombies.

"So I didnt see your message was it scrambled? lol"

Hahahaha scrambled thats a good one

If your only critism is about the zombie mode than I'm not too worried about other arguments. Also it's collectively agreed by BIA gamers that BIA online is awful and COD online is lightyears ahead but I'm not gonna put too much weight on that because BIA is made for campaign and COD is much more focused on multiplayer.

No thats not my only problem with COD. I just thing its worth bringing up because its a perfect example of how undedicated to Authenticity COD is. And the online play for BIA can be a lot of fun if you have the right people.

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Originally posted by alextlaoe:
If your only critism is about the zombie mode than I'm not too worried about other arguments. Also it's collectively agreed by BIA gamers that BIA online is awful and COD online is lightyears ahead but I'm not gonna put too much weight on that because BIA is made for campaign and COD is much more focused on multiplayer.

alextlaoe, gotta keep in mind that COD is way older than BIA? and there allready have a massive experienxe compared to that of BIA? and i think that it also depends on were you life - it may be a whole differant thing if you life on the other side of the world?

Cod and BIA will alway's be compared next to eachother! they're like Superman and Batman.

"Allen: Legget, he can melt stuff with his eye's, His eye's!"
hehe

Red, once again I'm not talking about the whole series, im talking about COD 5 vs. BIA:HH, if we were talking about the whole series I would say that BIA is easily better. Just for the record I played RTH:30 when it first came out and did not touch COD until Modern Warfare. Also COD first came out in late '04 and BIA in early '05 so they've been around for a similar amount of time. For the record, COD 5 is a better game OVERALL than BIA:HH. Don't bring up all the tactical aspects and authenticity because it's obvious that they are two different types of games and I've never argued that COD is more authentic than BIA because I know that's simply not true. Call of Duty: World at War just flat out provides a better gaming experience.

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Originally posted by alextlaoe:
Red, once again I'm not talking about the whole series, im talking about COD 5 vs. BIA:HH, if we were talking about the whole series I would say that BIA is easily better. Just for the record I played RTH:30 when it first came out and did not touch COD until Modern Warfare. Also COD first came out in late '04 and BIA in early '05 so they've been around for a similar amount of time. For the record, COD 5 is a better game OVERALL than BIA:HH. Don't bring up all the tactical aspects and authenticity because it's obvious that they are two different types of games and I've never argued that COD is more authentic than BIA because I know that's simply not true. Call of Duty: World at War just flat out provides a better gaming experience.

true! but i never played COD5 so i cant judge it on what i dont know?
call of duty was released ahead on the p.c (sorry if i'm wrong?) and the console came later.
i started with finest hour, then modern combat 1 and i have the new world at war game high up my Christmas list.
and yes, you're right! COD is OVERALL a better game. it's for my point of view a much better know game than BIA
BIA is for the 'older' gamer who got enough of the same story everyday trough-out the time?

but do you Realy think that COD is Historicly accurate?? realy?
everyone knows that Call of Duty is a game? i once had the extreme most Honor to have a conversation with Randy and Mr.Antal at the E3 this year, and met mr.Pitchford in april of this year in Paris and He realy pointed out togheter with the manegers of this site that Brothers in arms Hells Higway is accurate!

this isen't a game. it's a story that is been told trough-out history books, and we're lucky enough to play it in a video game!