go buy Call of Duty: World at War. WAW blows BIA out of the water in graphics and gameplay, seriously, if you want a WWII shooter go buy WAW right now. You will not regret it.

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Originally posted by alextlaoe:
go buy Call of Duty: World at War. WAW blows BIA out of the water in graphics and gameplay, seriously, if you want a WWII shooter go buy WAW right now. You will not regret it.

except the storyline, the mindless AI and the setting....nuff said

cod5 is good but its not quite same as playing bia, for one thing your squad is totaly scripted, online play is better than bia, even though flag mode is ok when you get used to it, most people prefere blow the hell out of the other team mode.

This is why I don't like playing COD. This is from the IGN Review:

"Enemy soldiers and your computer-controlled teammates respawn endlessly until you advance far enough to hit the triggers to make them stop reappearing. Then you advance to the next firefight and repeat the process over again."

Especially the part where they respawn until you get far enough to hit the triggers to make them stop reappearing. The gameplay maybe fun, but I like the fact you can use your squads to move around and take out the enemy without them respawning. You hit your objective, your on to the next.

Itdog-The storyline features levels that are depections of actual battles set in the actual places where they occured. BIA is a Holywood style story based on real events. (Im not saying that BIA didn't have the actual settings because they did, COD 5 had cities more accurate depicted.) And, mindless AI does not throw every grenade you throw back unless you accurately place it. Also, mindless AI does not pick the oppurtune moment to unleash a banzai charge on your squad. The AI of COD does all those things while when you lob a grenade at a German in BIA they just look at it.

Submarinex1-Thats fair, I agree.

dmalana-In COD you are a grunt, not a squad leader so that is not an option. Also, the battles depicted in COD 5 are ones on a much grander level (Okinawa, Stalingrad, Battle for Berlin). So this means that the neverending waves of Germans/Japanese or Soviets/Marines is not far from what is was actually like. Those battles had thousands of troops from each side facing off in all kinds of engagements.

I feel bad for people like you who REALLY think Call of Duty is an accurate depiction of WWII. That is sad how that franchise is degrading such an event in history.

Brothers in arms is a real story of a real squad in a real battle in a real war, Call of Duty gives you historically false objectives in large-scale battles. They do this to get away from the people who will nit-pick historically, because in the end they will just say "Well, I am sure one of those soldiers took out Hitler and set fire to the reichstag, you can't prove us wrong, it was such a large battle after all." They don't do historically accurate depictions of the locations, they don't use overhead signal corps photos of the areas to get the correct levels. Gearbox, on the other hand, knows their stuff. They have done more research than any of those CoD teams put together.

The call of duty franchise, again, is a disgrace to world war two.

-M1

M1 I think you sent that email to the wrong person! BIA is the best portrayl of WW2 ever. Read my post on that point. I think it was the first post in the BIA forum. Call of Duty may be ok for the beginner but for the hard core gamer who wants realizm as well as a good Story line game "Hells Highway" by far is the best. I own both of the new games and Call of duty-World at war doesnt even come close to BIA. Even the graphics in COD5 is just OK.
But read my message on the forum about BIA and you will se my thoughts.

Ed
BattleBunny

M1 Read this. my original post is kinda long but its still online.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2751085444/m/9...521067107#9521067107

How can amyone be Dissapointed in BIA-Hells Highway. Its a true story based on Montie complete failure to shorten WW2. Call of duty is based on nothing except WW2. BIA is not just another war game. Its a true story but more important its about your player and his squad. Their jobs, their fears, everything about a group of troopers in WW2. Call of Duty doesnt even come close. In call of duty theirs no real interaction between you and your men. Its just about killing nothing else. We went through that gaming genre for years. UBI and Gearbox have given a great game with BIA not to mention a new feel. So far on a sscale of 1 to 10 BIA-Hells Highway gets an 11. While COD5 gets a 1 which by the way they had to borrow from those silly enough to buy it.

Ed
BattleBunny

PS I think someone stole my other name "Steel Bunny"

oops This is interesting I sign on as BattleBunny but all my post come up as SteelBunny. Now im lost. Gezzzz
M1 how do I correct this. I go by BattleBunny and have for 20 years. I do use Steel Bunny once in awhile but only if someone has stole BattleBunny!

Ed
BattleBunny

Alex your embarrasing yourself. COD5 is ok but BIA-Hells Highway is GREAT. Acutally a first of its kind. Squad base with real interaction between the Characters. Someone said BIA was more Hollywood style, I wont disagree with that because it really would make a great movie.
Send me a script someone and we will amek a movie. [Just Kidding] Iam x Banker/finace man not a Hollywood man. Bankers are usually boring people but i try not to be.
Please Alex dont compare the two because you cant. ones great and ones just OK. Also to say the Graphics are better in COD5 is just plain silly. Im running SLI so dont even be crazy enoough to go there as I can run on levels that most people only dream about. Thats Dula 9800's. So I guess I know a little about great graphics. I dont mean to be harsh towars you or your statement just HONEST.

Ed
BattleBunny

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Originally posted by alextlaoe:
Itdog-The storyline features levels that are depections of actual battles set in the actual places where they occured. BIA is a Holywood style story based on real events. (Im not saying that BIA didn't have the actual settings because they did, COD 5 had cities more accurate depicted.)

Do you live in a fantasy world? IS it nice there? Wake up!!!! COD is a hollywood story.....


Amen M1...Amen

Again you have me mixed up with someone3 else. I love the game BIA. For gods sakes read my posts, and for gods sakes understand this REAL SOLDIERS like myself do brag a little. You dont become a paratrooper or marine without some bragging rights. As for Paratroopers you have to Earn the right to wear those wings, and it does give you bragging rights and also stares from legs who never could hack the training to become one. A Navy Seal or special forces trooper believe me has every bragging right their is. The truth is we rarely do brag but belive me or not WE EARNED the right to brag. I hope you understand the word EARNED, or do you think Seal or Airborne training is a joke?

ED

Bingo M1 well said.

As for the "never ending waves" of troops coming at you after "spawning", yeah, that's really realistic. It's soo realistic that these spawned troops keep coming at you running and gunning with no thought in tactics. And you're missing the point ALEX, BIA is all about leading your squad and finding, fixing, finishing your enemy. If you want to run and gun and think what you're playing is "realistic" go ahead and play it. That's your choice. COD is mindless and BIA is a thinking players' game.

But to be honest the new BIA was not as well as they told us it would but it is still by far the most greatest game ever.

have you guys even seen how COD looks like on the psp, I tell you, all the characters look EXACTLY the sam and if aim to throw a grenade it likes like it is coming towards you etc. etc.

But what about Medal of honer who thinks that is good?

Ok first off, we've all agreed that these are two very different types of games.
Itdog- how can you say that BIA is not a Hollywood movie style game and COD is. In BIA you are interuptted every five minutes by a cut scene that packed with filler to try and compensate for the lackluster gameplay. If you truly think that BIA is the greatest game ever you might want to expand your horizons. The graphics were a letdown and the gameplay was just flat out bad in places.

Steelbunny- let me quote itdog "Do you live in a fantasy world? IS it nice there? Wake up!!!!" because if in that fantasy world the graphics in BIA are better than that of COD, I want in. YOURE embarassing YOURSELF by saying that. I belive you say I can't compare the two games....well I already have will continue too. Sure the two games are different in style but I mean come on, COD 5 blew BIA out of the water for so many reasons especially after all the excitement leading up to BIA. You can't say a game is great because you can tell your guys what to do or because it has "deep" story. Last time I checked, I PLAY video games not watch them. But on a different note, I saw the stuff about bragging and military service and what not. If you are actually in the military I give you props and thank you and all the rest of your brothers fighting for the fact that I can go on this forum and say this. Thanks man.

M1 Maniac-If BIA and COD 5 were based in the same theatre I would say it'd be easier to compare the two settings, plus I'm not saying COD 1-4 are realistic in nature and setting, I'm bringing up the fact the COD 5 suprised me as to actual detail of the setting and realism especially after hearing stories about my grandfather who actually fought in some of those battles, so seeing the similarities from people who were actually there wouldn't exactly be "degrading" like you say.

Azerp-......dude we are talking about Xbox 360 or PS3. Anything on the PSP is going to look awful. And Medal of Honor: Frontline was good. Far from realistic but still fun.

I played CoD 5 when i was round at my friend's house yesterday, and i can tell you I was less than impressed. The graphics are worse than CoD 4, which was an exellent game. I must say that i also wasn't too impressed with Hells Highway, Road to Hill 30 is still the best World War 2 game ever made in my opinion.

The graphics on Hells Highway are better than the likes of Call of Duty 5 and the gameplay is more original. Whereas CoD 5 has a very run-and-gun and yes "Hollywood" feel to it. For realism and originality go for BIA, but if you're after a bit more fun and better MP go for CoD.

Hi Azerp

If you are refering to "Medal of Honor-Airborne" That game was also great. But BIA is a tad better. The story line is just solid in BIA. But saying I would still say buy MOH-Airborne its a really fun game. Heres my scoringon a 10 point basis for war games. Single player mode.

1] BIA-Hells Highway 10
2] MOH-Airborne 9
3] COD5 4

Ed
SteelBunny

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Originally posted by SteelBunny:
A REAL SOLDIERS like myself do brag a little. You dont become a paratrooper or marine without some bragging rights. As for Paratroopers you have to Earn the right to wear those wings, and it does give you bragging rights and also stares from legs who never could hack the training to become one. A Navy Seal or special forces trooper believe me has every bragging right their is. The truth is we rarely do brag but belive me or not WE EARNED the right to brag. I hope you understand the word EARNED, or do you think Seal or Airborne training is a joke?

ED

I wasnt referring to you......check your PMs