hi everyone. just wondering. on road to hill 30 on the ps2, at the end on "victory in carentan" it says..."on september 17th we dropped into a little town called arnhem". did the 101st in real life get in arnhem after hill 30

In a manner yes. The next biggest offensive by the allied forces was Arnhem. This consisted of Montgomery's 30 corps, polish paratroopers, emglish paratroopers, and save the best for last the "US paratroopers".
This was all halted by the II SS panzer division, that was there for rest.

But there is a mistake in Baker's sentence, 101st was supposed to take Eindhoven, they were at the base of Monty's advance, Arnhem was the last stop. However the initial plan was to drop the 101st in Arnhem but somewere along the way the generals decided to drop the british 6th airborne (I think) and to support them by dropping the Polish a day later.

so the 101st got into arnhem after the british 6th airborne and the polish.

I'm from Holland, and i'm kind of a "market garden" expert.
In the Netherlands, the 101st first took nijmegen........after that they attempted to recapture key dutch villages like Nuhnem(see band of brothers).
After market garden failed, the 506st and 501st tried to rescue britisch stranglers trapped behind enemy lines. Eventually the 101st would end up fighting at a dijk region near the Rhine

so they didnt get to arnhem

It was the British 1st Airborne, not the 6th that took part in Market Garden. The 6th was still recovering from the losses it had taken in Normandy and even by mid-September was not yet ready for combat.

It was the 2nd SS Panzer Corps, not the 2nd SS Panzer Division that fought at Arnhem & Nijmegan.

I've never heard a veteran of the 101st or 82nd refer to Market Garden as "Arnhem" usually they just talk about the jump on Holland. The 101st was never in Arnhem. Late in the campaign, the 101st did operate at the tip of the salient, but to my knowledge, except for minor operations (such as the evacuation of few survivors of the 1st Airborne from the Arnhem side of the Rhine)they were not on the Arnhem side of the Rhine.

thanks everyone for your help.

That SS Coprs consisted of the 9th and 10th SS Divisions if I am not mistaken.

So here are the paratroops involved:
101st - Son (failed to capture it), Eindhoven
82nd - Grave, Nijmegen (That was the 82nd, NOT the 101st!)
1st Airborne - Arnhem (and Oosterbeek)
Polish 1st Independent Parachute Brigade - Arnhem (and Oosterbeek)

Then, there were XXX-corps at one side and the 2nd SS Panzer Corps at the other.

The 101st did capture Son, the bridge was blown up by the germans but a Bailey bridge was already installed before british armored troops got to the area. And an interesting mission aspect presents itself for a Market-garden based BiA is also present: after the bridge in Son blew up Gen. Taylor ordered a platoon from the 502nd to secure a nearby bridge in Best. But Allied intel didn't now the Volkssturm troops guarding that bridge were replaced by experienced troops fom the German 15th Army. Result was that the platoon got stuck there for about 3 days and they weren't able to contact their HQ. Eventually the Germans blew up that bridge too but the battle continued and over that period of about 3 days british armored recon vehicles, a US patrol and a platoon send to help them linked up with them and abanoned them, all for different reasons. And during one of the fierced battles one of the platoon members recieved a (posthumous) Medal Of Honor for saving his comrades' lives by covering a german grenade trown in their trench with his body after he was shot in both arms in a engagement earlier that day.

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Originally posted by Cpt_Raidergun:
And during one of the fierced battles one of the platoon members recieved a (posthumous) Medal Of Honor for saving his comrades' lives by covering a german grenade trown in their trench with his body after he was shot in both arms in a engagement earlier that day.

Medal of Honor citation for Joe Mann:

MANN, JOE E.

Rank and organization: Private First Class, U.S. Army, Company H, 502d Parachute Infantry, 101st Airborne Division. Place and date: Best, Holland, 18 September 1944. Entered service at: Seattle, Wash. Birth: Rearden, Wash. G.O. No.: 73, 30 August 1945. Citation: He distinguished himself by conspicuous gallantry above and beyond the call of duty. On 18 September 1944, in the vicinity of Best., Holland, his platoon, attempting to seize the bridge across the Wilhelmina Canal, was surrounded and isolated by an enemy force greatly superior in personnel and firepower. Acting as lead scout, Pfc. Mann boldly crept to within rocket-launcher range of an enemy artillery position and, in the face of heavy enemy fire, destroyed an 88mm. gun and an ammunition dump. Completely disregarding the great danger involved, he remained in his exposed position, and, with his M-1 rifle, killed the enemy one by one until he was wounded 4 times. Taken to a covered position, he insisted on returning to a forward position to stand guard during the night. On the following morning the enemy launched a concerted attack and advanced to within a few yards of the position, throwing hand grenades as they approached. One of these landed within a few feet of Pfc. Mann. Unable to raise his arms, which were bandaged to his body, he yelled "grenade" and threw his body over the grenade, and as it exploded, died. His outstanding gallantry above and beyond the call of duty and his magnificent conduct were an everlasting inspiration to his comrades for whom he gave his life.

Brave men

Yes a very brave man. And to correct Paragoblet its not english Paratroopers, its British. The english are not the only people who where in the war.

can any of you answer my topic on the earned in blood general discussion called "hartsock" please

Footnote for trivia buffs:

Arnhem and the Arnhem Bridge were not captured until April 14,1945, by elements of the Canadian First Army.

Just watch A BRIDGE TOO FAR!!!

hi everyone.on operation market garden did american paratroopers have to secure the bridges on the border of netherlands and germany so british forces could come in into the ruhr valley?
also because it failed what happened to the 101st airborne after this? it took about 2 months to advance after this right??and did this lead to the battle of the bulge?

This is pretty cool because I live in Arnhem.
Never knew all about this, but it's sure interesting

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Originally posted by RatRiot:
This is pretty cool because I live in Arnhem.
Never knew all about this, but it's sure interesting

One of the bloodiest city battles in the western front occured on the streets you live in. In 8 days the British lost 18,000 casualties! Where you live may have been covered in blood.

A german veteran of the battle said, "there they were, two platoons of british, lying dead and wounded after the ambush. One man was shot into 5 pieces and another was still alive after a grenade ripped him in two. everytime I think about the man's face I start to cry. I will never forget that moment. I killed nine men in the ambush, then shot five more in the course of the week."