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Question:
currently bia has not made a game that shows the d-day invasion from the beaches so what other fps do u think most accurately portrayed the beach assault in normandy.

Choices:
medal of honor allied assault
call of duty 2
other (leave a comment)

 


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All I have to say is that MOHAA was a complete rip off of saving private ryan. I hate the game and hate the scene. I will not say it is realistic.
 
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c22, A FLIPPIN MEN, private ryan bites, but cod2 i think does the best job


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All I have to say is that MOHAA was a complete rip off of saving private ryan. I hate the game and hate the scene. I will not say it is realistic.


Didn't you notice that spielberg PRODUCED MOH:AA Roll Eyes. Watch the credits.



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Too Happy bow


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Wow... Didnt know that, Well, he shouldnt have copied it anyway. The redundant nature of that scene bugs me.
 
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I came to detest Speilberg after SPR.
 
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detest? what does that mean? help me im stupid! Hammer


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All I have to say is that MOHAA was a complete rip off of saving private ryan. I hate the game and hate the scene. I will not say it is realistic.


Yet you did not notice that almost everything in the american campaign in COD2 was a rip-off of Saving Private Ryan, which rocks by the way!
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I agree...def. saving private ryan!
 
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If anyone did any research on what the beach landing at omaha looked like nobody would say that any of these games truely represented omaha. while SPR was the closest if you watch the beach part several times you'll see why its not very realistic.
 
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one of the historical mistakes i seen on saving private ryan while at omaha is that some of the wooden ramp obstacles the germans have are upward facing the water when in real life they pointed upward towards the beach. some of them are correct while others arent. i did a google search to find that.

guess what? saving private ryan was on yesterday! Too Happy


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guess what? saving private ryan was on yesterday! Too Happy


Speaking of Saving Private Ryan... does anyone know where I can find a cheap repro or look-alike to the M41 field jacket?



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I agree...def. saving private ryan!


Hey, Its Gabe!!!! Eek Too Happy



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The beachscene of bia: RtH30! Hammer Thumbs Up


 
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I would say that the beach scene in SPR was extremely unrealistic. The amount of bloodshed is correct. The bluff was fairly correct.

Things that were wrong I shall state here:

1. The boats the rangers landed in were not correct, because they should be LCAs not higgins boats.

2. The beach was longer at about 200 yrds. The double-embrasured bunker was 4x too large, but it was still there (contrary to popular belief).

3. In the movie there was no road between the cliffs and the beach, which was a major obstacle in the real battle (it was covered in mines).

4. Dog-1 exit is not visible from any of the camera shots while it should be to the far right. I know this because the double-embrasure bunker was right near the exit.

5. An 88, that did not appear in the movie, should have been seen to the far right firing onto the landing craft and soldiers point blank.

6. No large artillery should have been seen at the top of the bluffs.

7. The shingle was larger and provided more cover than seen in the film.

8. The first wave took more than 20 minutes to get to the top of the bluffs. It was more like 45-60 minutes.

9. The several 'tobruk' bunkers that were present at the top of the bluffs were not present in the film.

10. No german mortars placed into tobruks were seen. We only hear of there being two mortars.

11. More than half the time bullets break apart and create many deadly fragments after striking water. In SPR we see only bullets that jet through the water without breaking apart. In reality the faster the bullet the higher the chance of fragmenting.

12. In reality the rangers landed in front of dog-1 exit and not to its far left side.

SIDE NOTE: The Rangers had the fewest casualties of the first wave soldiers who landed at dog-green beach. I've read somewhere between 45-55% casualties. One company from the 116th lost 90% and they were right along side the rangers. WTF!!! As SPR represents the blood shed was enormous. Some survivors say that they were the only one to get out of the boat. One vet even mentioned that on the beach that there was a body every ten feet, which doesn't include those lost on the boats.





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Wow...some decent info. How did you get these facts?


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Originally posted by Mozzerman:
I would say that the beach scene in SPR was extremely unrealistic. The amount of bloodshed is correct. The bluff was fairly correct.

Things that were wrong I shall state here:

1. The boats the rangers landed in were not correct, because they should be LCAs not higgins boats.

2. The beach was longer at about 200 yrds. The double-embrasured bunker was 4x too large, but it was still there (contrary to popular belief).


Although I respect Alot of the facts you have given, I have to challenge these two. Now I'm a bit a of a WWII fanatic, and grasp any knowledge I can on the subject. When you said 200 yards was the length of the beach, that is incorrect (or so I think). I remember watching a special on the WWII , I mean history channel special on D-Day, and it said that "because of bad weather, the troops would have to assault without the intake (correct?) of the tide, making the land beach about 100 yards.

Another challenge, that I'm not sure is correct, but will list anyhow. I remember a mailcall episode saying that the rangers at omaha, or point du hoc, I can't remember used wooden/metal(wtf) higgins boats. I'm not sure if this is correct, but I listed it anyway.

Two Cents: In SPR, the rangers have the "2nd" emblem on their helmets. Mail call stated that the rangers used regular infantry helmets so that noone would know who they were. Thoughts?



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Originally posted by Mozzerman:
I would say that the beach scene in SPR was extremely unrealistic. The amount of bloodshed is correct. The bluff was fairly correct.

Things that were wrong I shall state here:

1. The boats the rangers landed in were not correct, because they should be LCAs not higgins boats.

2. The beach was longer at about 200 yrds. The double-embrasured bunker was 4x too large, but it was still there (contrary to popular belief).


Although I respect Alot of the facts you have given, I have to challenge these two. Now I'm a bit a of a WWII fanatic, and grasp any knowledge I can on the subject. When you said 200 yards was the length of the beach, that is incorrect (or so I think). I remember watching a special on the WWII , I mean history channel special on D-Day, and it said that "because of bad weather, the troops would have to assault without the intake (correct?) of the tide, making the land beach about 100 yards.

Another challenge, that I'm not sure is correct, but will list anyhow. I remember a mailcall episode saying that the rangers at omaha, or point du hoc, I can't remember used wooden/metal(wtf) higgins boats. I'm not sure if this is correct, but I listed it anyway.

Two Cents: In SPR, the rangers have the "2nd" emblem on their helmets. Mail call stated that the rangers used regular infantry helmets so that noone would know who they were. Thoughts?


Yes, you are correct in the beach length. I just checked.

I think the rangers at point du hoc and charlie beach used wood and metal higgins boats. I'm pretty sure LCAs were used by the rangers at dog green and white beaches.

I think the ranger emblems were put in for dramatic purposes.
 
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