ITS SICK THAT YOU DEVELOPERS OF THIS GAME DONT KNOW REAL HISTORY !!!!!!!

YOU SHOULD BE TAKEN TO COURT !!!

GO BACK TO SHOOL AND TEACHE YOUR SELF A LITTLE BIT HISTORY....

POLAND AND GERMANY !!!!!!!NEVER!!!!!!!! WAS ALLY

WE HAVE FIGHT WITH GERMANS SOLDIERS TO LAST MAN!!! AND YOU SHOW AS IN GAME AS FRIENDS ITS SICK!!!!!!!

BASED ON TRUE STORY ??? BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

uh... i've studied world war II pretty well, and if you actually knew your history, you would know that there were Polish troops in the German army... some of them got forced in.

Well, I don't know, WHAT you studied, Marineboi.
There were NO Polish volunteers in German Army. There were NO Polish troops in German Army (like there WERE units of French, Latvian, Ukrainian soldiers in German Army). There was NO organised group of Poles fighting for Germany during the second world war. Period.
Polish underground army was an ally of the US, UK and France, and it had MORE soldiers fighting against Germans than France! Poland - nevertheless its lack of statehood at the time - was a fourth military power on the Allies side. FOURTH.
So, Marineboi and developers - please accept the fact you made a mistake. And developers - it wpuld be much appreciated if you change this info in your booklets - 'cause there were no "Polish volunteers" in Wehrmacht, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe or Gestapo and SS.
We, Poles, are very proud of it, as our nation was the one in occupied Europe which did not collaborate with Germany by providing it with EVEN ONE organised troop.
Some Polish men were of course FORCED in German Army - as they were seen by Germans as citizens of the Third Reich - but such soldiers were not consolidated (and they did not consolidate themselves) to form some "Polish" troops in German Army. So there were FORCED German soldiers of Polish nationality, but there were no volunteers and there was no "Polish unit" on the German side.
I know it's "just a game", so I guess there would be lot of non-Polish people, saying "What's the big deal?". Well, let's just say that by such "just games" certain false ideas are preserved and circulated.

So dear developers, who promote your game as based on facts and very accurate - please make sure it's accurate in every detail. And repair the mistake of providing this false info in your booklets by printing new editions without it. Some news on the game's main page, acknowledging and correcting this mistake, would also be very nice (and it would cost you nothing)

Ok guys, yes there may not have been Polish volunteers in the German army, but in the last two years of the war, when the German SS troops were getting mighty thin in the ranks, Germany had to do something to build them up, so they went into the countries that they overran and forced the men from there to fight for them, and Poland was one of them. Oh yea, and enough of the taking them to court stuff, this is getting driven into the ground. If you don`t like the game, just don`t play it.

dude the polish troops in the german army in bia were captured and forced to fight for them, and if they didnt they were shot, it sais so in the game, and i dont know if they were allies or not but geeze it shows that if they werent thats how they got there doesnt it

Firefight700 - I'm not talking about any court proceedings, I guess bizi123 got little excited over the touchy subject, that's all.
And it's not really about the game and if I like it or not. It's about the phrase "Polish volunteers".
All I'm saying that there were no "Polish volunteers" in German army. So such info provided in instruction booklet for BiA is not true. That's all. As a Pole I would like people to know it.
Whether I like the game or not, is a totally different issue.

sigh... apparently, you did NOT read my statement well enough. i said, some of them got forced in. nosiwoda, then YOU later said some got forced in. i don't get where i'm wrong...

Bizi, was the caps really necessary? Especially when you're dead wrong on the subject. Whether or not they were volunteers. Polish,Czechs, Russians, Koreans, Finnish and even Indians fought for the Germans during WWII.

There is a topic already in this Forum about this: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=6841062052&m=5351068703

Would like to know does the game says about other "volunteers" in German army? Or only about Polish...because if its only about polish than its strange. And im sure if there were "Polish volunteers" than there have been the smallest group.

Firefight700 i would like to know where did u read about that Poles were in SS?

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Originally posted by bizi123:
ITS SICK THAT YOU DEVELOPERS OF THIS GAME DONT KNOW REAL HISTORY !!!!!!!

YOU SHOULD BE TAKEN TO COURT !!!

GO BACK TO SHOOL AND TEACHE YOUR SELF A LITTLE BIT HISTORY....

POLAND AND GERMANY !!!!!!!NEVER!!!!!!!! WAS ALLY

WE HAVE FIGHT WITH GERMANS SOLDIERS TO LAST MAN!!! AND YOU SHOW AS IN GAME AS FRIENDS ITS SICK!!!!!!!

BASED ON TRUE STORY ??? BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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hmmm Keyboard broken? or just to stupid to turn Caps off???

anyway, if the polish soldiers would have fought till the last man.. why did this bunch of wimps and babys surrender after just some days?

Conscripts....russians, japanese, polish, czech, morrocans, italians, brits, french, etc, etc, etc. They were all in the german army, either captured and told "fight for us or die" or they joined up on their own. Good Job devs. for adding this aspect to the game

everybody is right..in some way.
there were ost truppen formed from various eastern european countries. often they fought because there was a real possibility [or at least they believed there was] of them or their families being killed or, posibly worse, sent to a concentration camp. also, there are some tales of german NCOs prodding the 'freiwilligen' to fight with pistols in their backs.to call them wimps and babies is really unfair. if they did fire a gun at the allies landing in normandy then i'm sure it was from fear of their own death, whether by an allied bullet or a bullet in the back by a german overlord.
the poles/russians [slavic?] were treated appallingly by the nazis and it is so very easy for us to sit in our comfortable chairs in front of our pcs and talk about how weak so and so was to give in after a few days. when u have no home, your family have been slaughtered like cattle or enslaved, kicked out of their homes to make way for a 'germanic' family, there is often little to live for.
i can understand why some polish ppl are a bit miffed that they were designated 'volunteers'. u think they REALLY had ANY choice? i don't think so.
history is often rewritten by the empire in the ascendant at the expense of the truth.

das

IT A GAME JUST HAVE FUN AND DONT GET PISSED just have fun

"history is often rewritten by the empire in the ascendant at the expense of the truth."

LOL. Ubisoft made a mistake. So what? They don't work for any government. I'm pretty sure it was not an act of imperialism.

i just did google a little on this issue
and found there where 250.000 polish men fighting in the german Wehrmacht for germany

....*Ostbattalione*...
i think thats says all...
in these battalions many ppls of different countrys were fighting for the germans.poland ppls too.In fact, at the beginning of ww2 poland fighted against germany.but in 1943 mixed *ostbattalione* fighted at the west front thus more good trained soldier can fight at the ost front against the red army

Hi it says "volunteers"
Please pay attention to the quotes.

It means they were NOT volunteers but forced. But in the official statements they were probably mentioned as volunteers

Crushda show me link about this "news" u found in google.

Informations about foreigners in SS:
Dutchs ---- 55 000
Hungarians -50 000
Belgians --- 43 000
Ukraines --- 40 000
Lativians -- 32 000
French ---- 20 000
Italians ---- 19 000
Danes ------ 6 000
Norwegs ---- 6 000
Swedes ----- 2 000
Fins --------- 1 180
Swiss --------- 800
British --------- 75
Japanse ------- 10
Amerikan ------- 1 (LOL)

Do u know how many ppl died during the IIww? 55mln. Do u know how many soldiers ZSRR lost? 11.5mln...nice huh?

Stats about material losses (in mln.dol.)
ZSRR -------- 128
Poland -------- 50
France -------- 21
Jugoslawia ----- 9
Holand -------- 4,4
Czechoslovakia -4
Grece --------- 2,5
Belgy ---------- 2

Gearbox didn't just make that up, there were Poles fighting in the Ostbattalions, but that is hardly anything for modern day Poles to be ashamed of. They were captured and were forced to fight for the German cause as were many other inhabitants of German occupied territory. If you'd notice there are quotation marks around volunteers. That is because the Germans refered to them as volunteers when in reality they weren't. All of you getting bent out of shape either didn't interpret that statement correctly or are denying what is historically correct. Nowhere in the entire manual does it say that Poland was Germany's ally. The Polish people as a whole were for the Allied cause, and that is all that counts.