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Originally posted by disBjeFFixD:
I see, That's your own opinion I guess I will not interfere with that. But i highly doubt your remarks will about blood will make red steel 2 have blood in it.


if it doesn't have blood then the game is going to be a disappointment, now I'm not saying this because I have a bloodlust or anything, I'm saying this because the whole point of the Wii and WM+ was to make games more realistic and not having blood isn't realistic. it's like taking two steps forward and then taking a step back because it's a tad dark and your afraid of tripping.
 
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Originally posted by disBjeFFixD:
I see, That's your own opinion I guess I will not interfere with that. But i highly doubt your remarks will about blood will make red steel 2 have blood in it.


if it doesn't have blood then the game is going to be a disappointment, now I'm not saying this because I have a bloodlust or anything, I'm saying this because the whole point of the Wii and WM+ was to make games more realistic and not having blood isn't realistic. it's like taking two steps forward and then taking a step back because it's a tad dark and your afraid of tripping.


i get what your saying, but wii sports resort has no blood whatsoever and it's still meant to be fun and realistic, right?
 
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Originally posted by disBjeFFixD:
I see, That's your own opinion I guess I will not interfere with that. But i highly doubt your remarks will about blood will make red steel 2 have blood in it.


if it doesn't have blood then the game is going to be a disappointment, now I'm not saying this because I have a bloodlust or anything, I'm saying this because the whole point of the Wii and WM+ was to make games more realistic and not having blood isn't realistic. it's like taking two steps forward and then taking a step back because it's a tad dark and your afraid of tripping.


i get what your saying, but wii sports resort has no blood whatsoever and it's still meant to be fun and realistic, right?


realistic in the fact that you wear safety gear and use plastic swords when you aren't cutting up random objects. it's realistic of play fighting. but in Red Steel 2 your fighting with real swords and real guns with real bullets the enemys don't just get knocked out they die, you also die, not having the bloods takes away the realism from the game. it also makes it a bit unpolished (the execution moves looks laughably pathetic without the blood there to prove you didn't accidentally glitch you sword through your enemy) though the dev team doesn't want to believe it, it really does take away from the game. if they don't have blood in the game I'll bet $200 that one of the reviewers man complaint will be no blood.
 
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I'm not talking about the Wii, which can handle blood no problem.

I'm talking about their engine. They're probably just scared of getting criticism from American Christian conservatives.


Their engine can handle blood effects, because it can do fire effects, which are probably just a partical systems. Making blood usually consists of a billboarded sprite (faces 1 direction only) that is duplicated and shot out in a random direction.

I really doubt it's the Conservatives holding the blood back, it's more likely Ubisoft thinking a Teen game sells much better than a mature game on the Wii. And they're probably right.

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but in Red Steel 2 your fighting with real swords and real guns with real bullets the enemys don't just get knocked out they die, you also die, not having the bloods takes away the realism from the game.


In Zelda you're fighting with a real sword and shooting real arrows into real monsters, and yet, there's no blood, just a glowy red effect.

Agreed on the unpolished look. To restate my earlier opinion, there needs to be some sort of effect on the finishers! It doesn't need to be blood, but a comic-booky effect would be terrific. Most games that don't have blood still have an exciting effect to highlight enemy deaths.
 
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I'm not talking about the Wii, which can handle blood no problem.

I'm talking about their engine. They're probably just scared of getting criticism from American Christian conservatives.


Their engine can handle blood effects, because it can do fire effects, which are probably just a partical systems. Making blood usually consists of a billboarded sprite (faces 1 direction only) that is duplicated and shot out in a random direction.

I really doubt it's the Conservatives holding the blood back, it's more likely Ubisoft thinking a Teen game sells much better than a mature game on the Wii. And they're probably right.

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but in Red Steel 2 your fighting with real swords and real guns with real bullets the enemys don't just get knocked out they die, you also die, not having the bloods takes away the realism from the game.


In Zelda you're fighting with a real sword and shooting real arrows into real monsters, and yet, there's no blood, just a glowy red effect.

Agreed on the unpolished look. To restate my earlier opinion, there needs to be some sort of effect on the finishers! It doesn't need to be blood, but a comic-booky effect would be terrific. Most games that don't have blood still have an exciting effect to highlight enemy deaths.


TEEN games can have blood (The Conduit is rated TEEN and it has blood from both humans and aliens and if you get a headshot on an alien it's head explodes into a shower of orange blood!)

I really don't want comic book effects (if they make it do BAM! and POW! effects bubbles appear when you hit someone I'll just wait for another sword game to come around.) I still think blood would be the best for it (and again the game is called RED Steel 2 it doesn't make sense without blood)
 
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TEEN games can have blood (The Conduit is rated TEEN and it has blood from both humans and aliens and if you get a headshot on an alien it's head explodes into a shower of orange blood!)

I really don't want comic book effects (if they make it do BAM! and POW! effects bubbles appear when you hit someone I'll just wait for another sword game to come around.) I still think blood would be the best for it (and again the game is called RED Steel 2 it doesn't make sense without blood)


Teen games can have blood, yes, but only to a certain extent, and you don't want to push it. In this kind of game, with swords going everywhere, and what with stabbing and gutting people, the blood might have made it M. Red Steel 2 will probably get Teen anyways for the finishing moves.

I didn't mean comic-book like BAM! and POW! (god forbid) but sort of over-emphasized effects, like in Smash Bros Brawl.
 
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TEEN games can have blood (The Conduit is rated TEEN and it has blood from both humans and aliens and if you get a headshot on an alien it's head explodes into a shower of orange blood!)

I really don't want comic book effects (if they make it do BAM! and POW! effects bubbles appear when you hit someone I'll just wait for another sword game to come around.) I still think blood would be the best for it (and again the game is called RED Steel 2 it doesn't make sense without blood)


Teen games can have blood, yes, but only to a certain extent, and you don't want to push it. In this kind of game, with swords going everywhere, and what with stabbing and gutting people, the blood might have made it M. Red Steel 2 will probably get Teen anyways for the finishing moves.

I didn't mean comic-book like BAM! and POW! (god forbid) but sort of over-emphasized effects, like in Smash Bros Brawl.


if The Conduit can have exploding headshots (the heads explode and a shower of blood flies out of the neck until the body disappears) then simple blood effects should be fine! if the ESRB objects they just have to point to the Conduit and ask why they get so much why Red Steel 2 gets so little!
 
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Originally posted by Fender0:
Let's continue this discussion on another forum thread, this is developers answers only (although they never answer questions) so let's remove all our comments here! (I'll delete this message when all know, I've already deleted my other posts here)


or we could wait for a moderator to move them to a separate forum...
 
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Now, now gang. Lets play nice.
 
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Originally posted by sayajin4us:
Now, now gang. Lets play nice.


I thought we were...(asking a moderator to move posts to a separate thread so that discussions can get back on track is civil)
 
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What is the release date for redsteel two in Canada,and if there isn't a set date available,around what time will it be available in Canada?Thanks.

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Posting emails in public forums (...fora) is one of the worst things you can do.

Say hi to a ****load of spam if you're unlucky.


 
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Originally posted by Coolgerb:
Posting emails in public forums (...fora) is one of the worst things you can do.

Say hi to a ****load of spam if you're unlucky.


Thanks,forgot about that,I didn't get any yet,hope someone didn't copy my E-mail adress and sent it to all his or her friends.Thanks again.See ya.
 
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This topic has just been updated with plenty of new information on CONTROLS & WII MOTIONPLUS in RED STEEL 2.

We hope you'll enjoy it and that it well worth your wait! Smile

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excuse me, but WHERE THE HELL ARE THE ANSWERS?
 
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