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Originally posted by Ronin_NL:
I just saw Operation pacific with John Wayne and there was a moment were they were on the surface attacking a japanese ship. They'd mounted some brownings on the conning tower and all started shooting at the merchant......I would like to see that option. To take out sailing boats with some Browning machine guns.

I just was panning around inside the conning tower and in a corner I saw 2 Brownings lying there. It would be really nice to actually use them when attacking a merchant.

Pretty Cool ! Never noticed em before. It would be great like you said. I am using a U boat and we have Frankfurters hanging around. I guess I can throw Weiners at the enemy when i run out of ammo.

Simply the whole interior could be modeled, but it si not necessary in high detail to slow down the game.

I'd like to have something like combination of real navigation abilities, like sextant, working almanac etc. and automated pilot, which would be able to dive every hour and make sonar measurement etc.

One of the most important thing, not mentioned here, is absence of food stock a fresh water level in the game, which is lowering during time each mission in reality. Lowering morale is due to lowering rations.

Also lack of abilities with crew was performed i sh4. I'd like to send life boat (rubber boat) with commando to capture enemy merchant ship, or to take hook somewhere to set free a sub catched on coral...etc.

I know is almost imposible to make the whole ship completely playable, e.g. for 24 men. Could be very interesting to play every day 2 hours maximum with one another sailor (two man/2hours) with computer and after that pass on the charge to another captain, give him (her) report and feel delight to another work shift and his results. Each man (woman) could have his special ability on the submarine. One could be navigator, and only have acces to sextant, another is specialist to sonar facilities, another to radar facilities, one could write the captains and submarine book...etc

...and sorry for my bad english...

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Originally posted by JVSHAPONA:
I love it! The ideas keep getting better. This bar and brothel thing reminds me of the Horse and Cow bar when Mare Island was still open. Memories.....

Ah yes, How I love hearing my father speak of the H&C from when he was assigned to the Seawolf back in the early 80's.

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Pretty Cool ! Never noticed em before. It would be great like you said. I am using a U boat and we have Frankfurters hanging around. I guess I can throw Weiners at the enemy when i run out of ammo.

There was a US destroyer that threw potatoes at a Japanese submarine. They actually won the battle.

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Originally posted by wh1skea:

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Originally posted by JVSHAPONA:
I love it! The ideas keep getting better. This bar and brothel thing reminds me of the Horse and Cow bar when Mare Island was still open. Memories.....

Ah yes, How I love hearing my father speak of the H&C from when he was assigned to the Seawolf back in the early 80's.

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Pretty Cool ! Never noticed em before. It would be great like you said. I am using a U boat and we have Frankfurters hanging around. I guess I can throw Weiners at the enemy when i run out of ammo.

There was a US destroyer that threw potatoes at a Japanese submarine. They actually won the battle.

Oh yes, the things we did. I was stationed at Mare Island in the early 80's on the Russel. The H&C is now a Pizza joint. I wonder what they did with all the pictures and plaques that decorated the walls?

I could have my dad ask either the owner or his family at the next Seawolf reunion he goes to.

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Originally posted by wh1skea:
I could have my dad ask either the owner or his family at the next Seawolf reunion he goes to.

That we would be great. The place was littered with neat stuff. I am assuming your Dad was on Seawolf III? From what I hear of the boat they did some real interesting patrols. What rate was your Dad?

Something just said started a light bulb over my head.

I would really like to see a more varied array of mission/patrol possibilities. Something like boarding an enemy ship, rather than just sinking it. Or orders to head off to an area where a friendly ship is known to sink and look for survivors (similar to lifeguard duty but more of them).

Or missions to carry troops to jap islands, send them off. But then also have to recover them when they are done. So you have to hang around. Having to do that while under air attack would get REALLY hairy.

My general point, just give us some slightly outside the usual box missions to go do.

I would like to have a mission with a new spin on the Hiroshima attack. The crew would have plastic surgery to appear japanese. We would load the Fatboy in a modified torpedo room. Sneak into Hiroshima harbor submerged, exit the sub using the Momson lungs and watch the big boom from the other side of the harbor.

Just a couple of more compartments would be nice, the whole boat is not necessary, and i would love to see an British T-class submarine operating in the pacific, where they made a good contribution to the pacific theatre. Would be nice to have different classes of boats and more choice in a future release, of course i would settle for a mod.

More different classes would be nice, all nations aswell as the rarer subs like minelayers.
A campain where it's less travel time to and from the battle area would be a preferance for me too.
Pacific can be a bit of a drag when your trying to get to or from base.

I have played through both SH3 GWX and SH4. I really would like to see the next silent hunter become even more emersive. More sounds, more compartments, more crew interaction the ablity to look at somthing and move it in the 3d invorment. For exsample I would like select say the diving planes and have manual control over it. It seems like SH4 had less of that then SH3, why take that away? When I played SH3 I really liked that aspect, I was really wanted to play SH4 becuase I thought it would be even more emersive. When I played it I was alittle disapointed with that aspect of SH4. Engineering is a huge part of submairnes that I think should be depicted better. One of things I learned in the Military is that submarines do allot more then blow up ships. They spy, they stalk, they insert and exstract people, they do deep sea research.ect ect..SH4 for started to get into the fact that Submarines are multi roled in combat. Maybe the next one should show allot more of what these amazing machines can really do, heres an idea. How about sending divers out of an escape hatch! Under water demolitions. Or laying mines! Some James Bond stuff that subs really do!! Submarines lay mines in the real world. And make it in the COLD WAR. The 1950s or 60s, like the USS Natalis. The first nucular subs. I would like to comand some secret prototype. Just some thoughts. Thanks for lisening

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Originally posted by JVSHAPONA:

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Originally posted by wh1skea:
I could have my dad ask either the owner or his family at the next Seawolf reunion he goes to.

That we would be great. The place was littered with neat stuff. I am assuming your Dad was on Seawolf III? From what I hear of the boat they did some real interesting patrols. What rate was your Dad?

Yes, he was on Seawolf III (SSN-575). He doesnt talk much about what they did and when he does, he's very vague as to any details. I think he was either a Seaman or MS3 at the time.

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Originally posted by wh1skea:

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Originally posted by JVSHAPONA:

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Originally posted by wh1skea:
I could have my dad ask either the owner or his family at the next Seawolf reunion he goes to.

That we would be great. The place was littered with neat stuff. I am assuming your Dad was on Seawolf III? From what I hear of the boat they did some real interesting patrols. What rate was your Dad?

Yes, he was on Seawolf III (SSN-575). He doesnt talk much about what they did and when he does, he's very vague as to any details. I think he was either a Seaman or MS3 at the time.

What I remember of the seawolf was that she was what we called a "spec op" boat. I even heard rumors she actually went up some Rusky rivers and had a specialized keel to accomodate that. Your dad served on a very unique boat.

From what my mom has said, I would have to say that the specialized keel is more truth than fiction. He went on some special cruises in his career. When he got out of sub school, his ride to Vallejo was on the Nautilus, on her last cruise. Then he transfered to Seawolf. From there, he transfered to Trepang at Winter Harbor, ME. He got to go on the AREA '85 cruise to the Arctic. Then his next boat was Louisville, and her commissioning in Groton. He transfered from Louisville to Sculpin. Did a Tour of South America with Sculpin. The Navy finally discharged him in '89 after complications to a broken ankle he suffered on base back when he was stationed in Winter Harbor.

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Originally posted by wh1skea:
From what my mom has said, I would have to say that the specialized keel is more truth than fiction. He went on some special cruises in his career. When he got out of sub school, his ride to Vallejo was on the Nautilus, on her last cruise. Then he transfered to Seawolf. From there, he transfered to Trepang at Winter Harbor, ME. He got to go on the AREA '85 cruise to the Arctic. Then his next boat was Louisville, and her commissioning in Groton. He transfered from Louisville to Sculpin. Did a Tour of South America with Sculpin. The Navy finally discharged him in '89 after complications to a broken ankle he suffered on base back when he was stationed in Winter Harbor.

Speaking of these boats i would love to see Ubisoft come up with one that has SSN's albeit a war campaign would mostly be fictitious it would be fun. The campaigns in the EA stuff are too predictable and downright boring. having said all that have you considered joining the sub service and following in your dads footsteps?

I did consider it, but I'm 26 now, have a family of my own. I tried to join the reserves as a Seabee a few years ago, but was turned down over a cavity in a wisdom tooth. I try to make up for what I've missed through my fleet boat research.

As for the games, I would love to see a sub game based on the time period between the 50's through the 70's. GUPPYs, post-war diesels, Nautilus, Seawolf, Skates, Skipjacks....that would be fun. Not a whole lot of electro-one-button-push-mumbo-jumbo back then.

The cold war era boats were very interesting. Even though the fire control systems were vastly different from the WW2 boats. But that is part of the challenge and fun of this game, figuring out AOB etc... The post WW2 boats really brought into reality what a submarine is. A submersible ship that can stay underwater until you run out of food or something breaks and you have to surface. Admiral Rickover may have been called many things, but he was a hero of mine because if he did not push the nuclear power program as hard as he did, we would probably be speaking russian and enjoying vodka on a daily basis. He was eccentric and had a funny middle name, but what a genius. And he was not a coward to stand in front of Congress and tell em like it is.

i to would like to see a fully modeled interior bow-to-stern with operating doors to seal off damaged compartments, but i think it would also be cool to have the option of going multiplayer with one sub-2 or 3 people operating the same vessel preselecting thier stations, thx

the little things that are wrong with sh4 being fixed would be good, like how zero's stick to carriers like glue when it sinks and the boat rolls. Zero's should be going everywhere blowing up and bobing in the water (they don't sink right away) when you sink one. More unique targets too. I doubt sh4 ever has a fraction of the air and sea craft that were used by the japs.