I could only stomach approximately 10 pages of this preposterous drama, but it did raise one very curious teeny-weeny question from my perspective....why did they appoint a UK based forum mod (or whatever regimental titles they seem to use)? Of course, one could counter "why not?" and while that could be considered as viable, it still wouldn't constitute a proper response to the original question.

Personally, I would welcome a North American representative who, while not being able to provide any useful or tangible information whatsoever to the so-called "community" in the true tradition and fashion of these forums, could however engage regularly and enthusiastically in forum banter in a personable and sociable manner indicative of the true spirit of a modern gamer, without the necessity to rationalise every point in an overly self-defensive manner. The sacred "community", although not receiving its ultimate underlying demands, would at least be appeased by the wonderful forum communication being driven by that particular individual. In political circles, they call such folks diplomats....they have not been empowered, but rather, appointed to "keep the peace" and more importantly, to maintain a generally high spirited ambience. A true diplomat will engage and indulge even when there is really nothing of material value to say. This is what Ubi is perhaps missing (emphasis on perhaps, since it remains subjective)....it's naturally their prerogative to withhold information regarding the progress of their intellectual capital, but ideally, it is generally considered favorable to keep the punters happy.....although, this does beg the inevitable question as to how many punters we are really talking about here ?

I would vote for a cute Montreal chick as forum mod....similar to the one that marketed Assassins Creed from within the very walls of the Ubi Montreal studios. Now she didn't necessarily come across as the brightest light bulb in the bunch, but she certainly shone very brightly in the area of appeal to the male contingency....and it appears to have paid off...but that's marketing and not post-sales I guess.

Briony

EDIT: darn, I took this thread to page 70....I really wanted to be on 69 !!

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North American representative

i think that was supposed to be Ubi LevelUp

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Originally posted by AntiPersonnel:

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North American representative

i think that was supposed to be Ubi LevelUp

I would settle for any Ubisoft representative from any part of the world, who would actually take the time to contribute some positive feedback on the direction Ubisoft is taking with Vegas 2!!

At present, it appears Ubisoft's direction is one of abandonment and silence!!

I have given up all hope for anything new from Ubisoft where Vegas 2 is concerned, but I will hang around here just to let new unsuspecting
customers know how Ubisoft treats it's gamer base .. after a game is released!!

Don't buy any more Ubisoft games no matter how good you think they are, or will be!!!

The only thing Ubisoft understands is loss of $$$$$$$$$!!!

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Originally posted by polemic:
EDIT: darn, I took this thread to page 70....I really wanted to be on 69 !!

Maybe Anne Bonny has a fix for that...

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Originally posted by Lethal1940:

Don't buy any more Ubisoft games no matter how good you think they are, or will be!!!

The only thing Ubisoft understands is loss of $$$$$$$$$!!!

have not bought a single Ubi product since Vegas 1, same for all members of CV clan

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Originally posted by polemic:
I could only stomach approximately 10 pages of this preposterous drama, but it did raise one very curious teeny-weeny question from my perspective....why did they appoint a UK based forum mod (or whatever regimental titles they seem to use)? Of course, one could counter "why not?" and while that could be considered as viable, it still wouldn't constitute a proper response to the original question.

Personally, I would welcome a North American representative who, while not being able to provide any useful or tangible information whatsoever to the so-called "community" in the true tradition and fashion of these forums, could however engage regularly and enthusiastically in forum banter in a personable and sociable manner indicative of the true spirit of a modern gamer, without the necessity to rationalise every point in an overly self-defensive manner. The sacred "community", although not receiving its ultimate underlying demands, would at least be appeased by the wonderful forum communication being driven by that particular individual. In political circles, they call such folks diplomats....they have not been empowered, but rather, appointed to "keep the peace" and more importantly, to maintain a generally high spirited ambience. A true diplomat will engage and indulge even when there is really nothing of material value to say. This is what Ubi is perhaps missing (emphasis on perhaps, since it remains subjective)....it's naturally their prerogative to withhold information regarding the progress of their intellectual capital, but ideally, it is generally considered favorable to keep the punters happy.....although, this does beg the inevitable question as to how many punters we are really talking about here ?

I would vote for a cute Montreal chick as forum mod....similar to the one that marketed Assassins Creed from within the very walls of the Ubi Montreal studios. Now she didn't necessarily come across as the brightest light bulb in the bunch, but she certainly shone very brightly in the area of appeal to the male contingency....and it appears to have paid off...but that's marketing and not post-sales I guess.

Briony

EDIT: darn, I took this thread to page 70....I really wanted to be on 69 !!

This is one post I agree with you on. I have often wondered why any representation from NA or the US has dissappeared. The last US Ubi representative that I recall posting on these forums was HangtownSOG, who is the one who picked me to go to Germany for the GRAW interview. I haven't seen him post since.

I could care less if it were a guy or girl, just someone who understands this community and the game(s). This person would interact more with the community even if they didn't have any real information, a failing over the recent (last several years) past unless a game was being prepared for releasee.

Oh, and 77 is better.

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Originally posted by xoops:

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Originally posted by polemic:
EDIT: darn, I took this thread to page 70....I really wanted to be on 69 !!

Maybe Anne Bonny has a fix for that...

Isn't Euphemism a wonderful thing ?

It's taking a lot of patience, but I think I'm done with Ubisoft's Rainbow Six games. It's obvious they're devoting their developing resources to other departments (Prince of Persia, Assassin's Creed). I think the Tom Clancy FPS/TPS games are coming to an end (quality-wise).

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Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:
This is one post I agree with you on.
Oh, and 77 is better.

We have some common ground then....let's hope this is not the last thing we agree upon my gallant crusader.

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Originally posted by polemic:
I could only stomach approximately 10 pages of this preposterous drama, but it did raise one very curious teeny-weeny question from my perspective....why did they appoint a UK based forum mod (or whatever regimental titles they seem to use)? Of course, one could counter "why not?" and while that could be considered as viable, it still wouldn't constitute a proper response to the original question.

Personally, I would welcome a North American representative who, while not being able to provide any useful or tangible information whatsoever to the so-called "community" in the true tradition and fashion of these forums, could however engage regularly and enthusiastically in forum banter in a personable and sociable manner indicative of the true spirit of a modern gamer, without the necessity to rationalise every point in an overly self-defensive manner. The sacred "community", although not receiving its ultimate underlying demands, would at least be appeased by the wonderful forum communication being driven by that particular individual. In political circles, they call such folks diplomats....they have not been empowered, but rather, appointed to "keep the peace" and more importantly, to maintain a generally high spirited ambience. A true diplomat will engage and indulge even when there is really nothing of material value to say. This is what Ubi is perhaps missing (emphasis on perhaps, since it remains subjective)....it's naturally their prerogative to withhold information regarding the progress of their intellectual capital, but ideally, it is generally considered favorable to keep the punters happy.....although, this does beg the inevitable question as to how many punters we are really talking about here ?

I would vote for a cute Montreal chick as forum mod....similar to the one that marketed Assassins Creed from within the very walls of the Ubi Montreal studios. Now she didn't necessarily come across as the brightest light bulb in the bunch, but she certainly shone very brightly in the area of appeal to the male contingency....and it appears to have paid off...but that's marketing and not post-sales I guess.

Briony

EDIT: darn, I took this thread to page 70....I really wanted to be on 69 !!

Polemic I understand where you are coming from and I would love to enjoy friendly banter in this forum as I do on others but issues within this community make that very difficult.

This community understandably want answers and so when I post in any thread I am asked why I've not responded to other more important ones. If I engage in the casual manner you (the community) suggest it's perceived that I am ignoring you all and it's this which makes it difficult for my involvement to be more casual. I want to bring answers and while I do try at the moment I'm unable, but when I post you all want answers so any casual engagement is not accepted.

I would add that none of this has anything to do with my location on the planet, in fact to suggest someone located in a city of your choice would automatically be more capable of the position you suggest is quite insulting to anyone living outside the US although I don't imagine this was your intention it is how it reads.

However I can confirm you do in fact have US appointed forum managers who cover the Ubisoft forums as I do, they are..........

Aeliop
Black_Widow9
bukowski113
CouchZombie
Gypsy816
Wedge3D

I hope that answers your question

Lisa, it's a cultural thing....if you've spent any time on other forums in other geographical locations of the planet, you will notice a difference in the manner in which they conduct their banter.
The Australians, while quite brutal, are a totally fun bunch, providing you have a thick skin to "talk the talk". The Germans on the other hand are extremely mature and avoid any useless bickering back and forth, using the time constructively to get to the root of the issue.
So here in North America, there are also cultural nuances that are typically best understood by a native of this continent (and by that, I don't mean a native Indian, although in the interest of diversity, I wouldn't exclude them).
So the underlying point in my post was to illustrate that it would perhaps be logical for each respective geographical location to appoint a mod from within that location that is able to fully relate to those said cultural nuances.

Note that my post was generic in nature and not intended as a personal insult....but you did perceive it that way !

Because Lisa, from what I've seen so far, you don't relate very well at all to the North American community. That's not an insult, it's purely an honest observant statement. In all fairness, I haven't been around here long enough to comment on any of the North American mods that you named, I'll leave that up to other more qualified "old timers", but your primary downfall is your inherent and perpetual need to defend yourself and your statements or to rationalise statements of others. Your approach is flawed.....you insist on blaming the community for every single one of your reactions.....that's like blaming and reprimanding the baby when it cries instead of the babysitter. Babies do what they're supposed to do....cry, eat, sleep. And babysitters do what they're supposed to do....try their utmost to provide food and comfort in an effort to avoid an outburst of crying.

You're probably not a bad lass Lisa, but to be brutally honest, I don't think that you're well suited to the role of a forum moderator. And NO, I couldn't do it any better....it's not in the job description of a Polemic.

I'm hoping that despite my honesty, you aren't overly offended. We all have our weaknesses, but the ultimate challenge is being able to accept, acknowledge and improve on them once you've identified them or once someone else has pointed them out.

Briony

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Originally posted by polemic:
I'm hoping that despite my honesty, you aren't overly offended. We all have our weaknesses, but the ultimate challenge is being able to accept, acknowledge and improve on them once you've identified them or once someone else has pointed them out.

Briony

No I am not offended, however that is first and foremost because I know what my job is and I know I do that job well

With respect your point is flawed because on one hand you say this is a matter of cultural differences, yet you continue to state that you believe I personally am not able to do the job well, either its cultural or its personal it cannot be both.

However the open forum is not the place to discuss whether you feel I do a good job or not so if you wish to continue this discussion in private I am more than happy to do so but this conversation ends here with regard to any personal issues.

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Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:

No I am not offended, however that is first and foremost because I know what my job is and I know I do that job well

If your job is to frustrate the hell out of us, you are absolutely correct, you do it extremely well.

If your job here is anything else i would be ashamed of being here!

muerteCV I dont frustrate you, the situation frustrates you.... hell it frustrates me

unfortunately most of us here havent been taught to "not kill the messenger".

a lot of Leonidas's kicking poor kleaneasy down the well yelling "THIS IS RAINBOWWWWWWW!!!!"

LOL j/k