Interesting article Julian!

I especially found one comment concerning casual and hardcore gamers interesting.

Maybe the economic slump Ubisoft has encountered will help create more interest in the hardcore gamer.

It would also be very interesting to know if Ubisoft's losses are actually related to the casual gamer based on the economy, or rather it is caused by Ubisoft's abandonment of it's loyal gamer base.

Unfinished, broken games on release.
No fixes of any significance.
No communication or support after release!!!

My guess would be the later!!!

I, for one, am looking forward to the next UBI R6 release.

It means we get to see the spectacle that starts with the press release exclusives that only go to the web sites and magazines that always put a positive spin on UBI games no matter how bad they are.

It means we get to see quotes (also known as lies where I come from) like "Taking the R6 series back to its roots" and "what the fans want" and "not a console port".

It means some UBI rep like Goliath will come in here and tell us that the game is still realistic even though it has magic 3rd person view, health regen, and auto aim and is missing things like leaning, prone, and working doors.

It means we get to start up 100s of useless threads in here of what we want to see in the game, only to have every single one ignored.

It means we will get a few months of patches that don't fix any of the real bugs...but fixes things we didn't know were broken and removes some of the features we liked.

I changed my mind...I am not looking forward to it...carry on...

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Originally posted by AWC_Pest:
I, for one, am looking forward to the next UBI R6 release.

It means we get to see the spectacle that starts with the press release exclusives that only go to the web sites and magazines that always put a positive spin on UBI games no matter how bad they are.

It means we get to see quotes (also known as lies where I come from) like "Taking the R6 series back to its roots" and "what the fans want" and "not a console port".

It means some UBI rep like Goliath will come in here and tell us that the game is still realistic even though it has magic 3rd person view, health regen, and auto aim and is missing things like leaning, prone, and working doors.

It means we get to start up 100s of useless threads in here of what we want to see in the game, only to have every single one ignored.

It means we will get a few months of patches that don't fix any of the real bugs...but fixes things we didn't know were broken and removes some of the features we liked.

I changed my mind...I am not looking forward to it...carry on...

Don't forget the fanpack. =)

Nice post Julian.

Just short and sweet refer to the post from Lethal,that about covers it all. I can't believe UBI is blaming the economy for lack of sales. That is one of the most arrogant bunch of trash I have read in a long time. I guess I don't know what to lable myself,hardcore or casual gamer. I mean when I get up from the computer I am short of breath for a moment but always seem to servive. So I guess I am a middle of the road gamer. So I assume UBI is not targeting me at all.

I read with great interest the link Lethal posted about Operation Flashpoint "Dragon Rising". Hard to believe one of the Devs is comunicating with game players in the developement of the game. What a pleasent change that was to witness.From what I saw you hardcore players have asked for hard core and it is going to be delivered. Hang on to your butts it is going to be a wild ride....lol.

Now if anyone from UBI happens to stumble on to this post maybe you will pass the imformation up the ladder and UBI will start treating people with respect and save themselves from a slow painful death in the gaming market. "NUFF" said.

Why would anybody be looking forward to buying another game that will be unsupported after a couple unsuccessful patches?



Actually a better question, why doesn't Ubisoft support their own games after 3 patches that don't fix a quarter of the problems with the game?

How about the "match settings" crash in Vegas 1? I hope you all know that bug was put in the game PURPOSELY to get people to buy Vegas 2. Too bad it failed pretty hard, most of the Vegas community didn't even move on to Vegas 2.


Get with the program
Don't buy PC games from Ubisoft, you're putting your money in the toilet. They don't support their games after its released because they have a very small PC developement team that can't spend time working on previous games, only the new releases.


Good day.

well i think that the game doesnt need patches as ladder, tournaments, clanwars and big community, aven if they stop patch ill still bought it

this isnt the only game with no patch nad huge community, jedi knight 2 series, more ppl play without patch than with it and support ended years ago, counter stike is also out of support. sierra lets it known a some time ago and still there are huge tournament and worldwide battles

The patches needed for Vegas 2 are for fixes concerning major problems with this game.

Are we still talking about the same game here gearbolt?
I checked Vegas 2 last night and there were:

3 Versus servers running
27 players hosting T-Hunt.

That is not a huge community!!

COD WaW will always have well over 3000 to 4000 servers running.

An old game .. Ravenshield .. developed by Red Storm and published by Ubisoft had 138 servers running.

I just now started a really old game that I played years ago called Quake 3 Arena.

2021 servers running.

I must be missing something with your last post!
Vegas 2 is basically dead for all practical purposes!!

well i got some weird master german version witch cannot be even patched, only thru autopatcher and ss.sour wrote that this version shows only server made by same version ...

btw i dont think that raven shield get so much playable because of patches, and u cant compare q3a thats a legend game, its like comparing cs with this

why do you think that communities and so many players always stick to some of theese games ? maybe ads, or history of good products, but well r6 got this too, why arent people playing it from at least 1/3 as cs ?

I believe Vegas 2 could have been a very fun and popular game still.
But, there are just to many serious issues along with the many bugs and glitches.

Lag is one of the major issues and the Ai really sucks.
Ubisoft abandoned the game only a few short months after release.

No fixes, and no communication.
Even the patches they did release fixed very little and in fact, created more problems.

They also released a broken SADS.

If Ubisoft had fixed and finished Vegas 2, it would still popular today, but I'm not so sure they really want that.
They would prefer players move on to their next broken title.

If something significant doesnt happen with the next R6 or they dont get it right then I hope its the last one they make.

to the OP:

no

Vegas 2 with all the community hotfixes (high stakes + server crash 1.03 SADS) is actually very decent.

Certainly a lot better then Lockdown and Vegas 1.

The keyword in that is "community".

The players, not UBISoft, had to correct and fix their errors with the multiplayer verses mode without even so much as the .SDK files.

The server crash fix for SADS took an extensive amount of work and searching to fix.


It's up to us to keep this game ticking at this point.

UBI-Soft's is aiming at the console market not PC and all future titles will probably reflect that attitude.


We can hope that they sell the franchise off to another company that will take the game in a different direction.

I don't know how many times this has been said.
Rainbow Six is dying and UBIsoft Knows that. So to make more money (which they like doing) Why don't they just sell Rainbow six and all of its trademarks to a proper company who can extend it.
This will make UBIsoft happy, the compny that buys R6 Happy, and best of all, the gamers happy

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Originally posted by SharpDagger09:
I don't know how many times this has been said.
Rainbow Six is dying and UBIsoft Knows that. So to make more money (which they like doing) Why don't they just sell Rainbow six and all of its trademarks to a proper company who can extend it.
This will make UBIsoft happy, the compny that buys R6 Happy, and best of all, the gamers happy

Yes, it's be mentioned previously, and still the best solution of all!!!