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Call of Duty 2 is so much better, it has better graphics, better levels (D-Day Pointe d Hoc), and being able to play as the British (The best) and the Russians as well, Matt Baker and co have got nothing on the Call of Duty lads especially the 2nd game, as they are the finest war games ever created.
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Yes, COD is good if you like run and gun games. Where as BIA you need to use a little common sence to get the Germans.
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Well you would say that as you are the moderator, look I have both games, I loved loved Brothers In Arms Road To Hill 3o until I got Call of Duty 2, its a completely different ball-game, the scope is huge and there is bounds of tactical combat as well.
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Being a Moderator has nothing to do with it. I`ve played both games, and Cod is still run and gun, no matter how you look at it. Not that it isn`t fun, it is, I still would rather use flanking tactics to get the Germans then run headlong into them. Still, I guess everyone has their opinion of it.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Firefight700:
I still would rather use flanking tactics to get the Germans then run headlong into them.[QUOTE] Yeah but didn't the rangers had different tactics then the paratroopers?   ''And if i must fall while fighting, pick the flag up and continue with the fight'' Betico Croes Aruban politician and fighter for the 'Status Aparte' |
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i have both games as well...however, after only a few mins of COD, i got bored...BIA always keep things interesting...you never know if the germans are going to change tactics. in COD, you know exactly when they're going fire or charge...
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Ranger or Paratrooper, there is basic infantry training and advanced infantry training. Although I was a field artillery crewman in the US Army, I do believe these two phases of infantry tactics are the same regardless. The US military has it's military doctrine, and infantry tactics are a part of it, regardless of what units your in. ___________________________________________________ Patience has its limits. Take it too far, and it's cowardice. - George Jackson |
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I own COD2, BIA:EIB and BF2. In my opinion, the AI in COD2 is far inferior to that of EIB. In COD2 the Germans attack much like the ChiComs did in the Korean War. They just come at you in waves ___________________________________________________ Patience has its limits. Take it too far, and it's cowardice. - George Jackson |
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I have both Brothers In Arms games (Earned In Blood and Road To Hill 30), I also have three Call of Duty games (1,2 and Finest Hour). Now the first Call of Duty was voted game of the year 2003 with an IGN rating of 9.3 and is widely considerd the greatest world war II game of all time, and Call of Duty 2 was the People's Choice winner of E3 2005 with an IGN rating of 9.2, Now Brothers In Arms is a good game but it cannot hold a candle to the Call of Duty series, Now I know the Medal of Honour series pales in comparison to both COD I and II and Brothers In Arms, but I enjoyed parts of Allied Assault more than Brothers in Arms, As for Earned In Blood I thought that it did'nt offer much difference from the first game and that it lacked depth, also why do most war games focus on the Americans, I mean they did'nt win the World War II all by themselves you know, of course Tom Hanks won the D-Day landings and Ben Affleck won the Battle of Britain all by themselves (sarcasm), but America always has plenty of games based on there lads running off to war, thats what I like about Call of Duty, You get to play as the British in North Africa, who arguebly are the best trained and toughest soldiers in the world and the Russians at Stalingrad instead of running up ANOTHER beach or entering CARENTAN and defeating an entire German Army by yourself with five bullets from a Springfield rifle. Its just not realistic, and Brothers In Arms magnifies the unrealisiticness in war.
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Well, I think the WWII FPS's usually being in the American point of view, is that it's a bigger market. It's a business. They could make it in the British, Russian or German point of view, but I don't think WWII FPS are big in Russia or Germany. It's just a matter of market size, strictly business, not chauvanism. Now as for you contention that BIA "magnifies the unrealisticness (not sure that's a word. LOL) Tell me why the US Army uses BIA to train it's infantry in tactics? And why was it's game engine used for the History Channel to depict events AS THEY OCCURRED on D-Day? As for the Brits being the finest trained and toughest soldier in the world, they are fine soldiers and as an American I'm proud to have them as our allies. But I would never say they are tougher or better trained than our boys... COD and BF2 to a lesser extent are run and gun. The only reason there is teamwork in COD2 is because it's scripted. You cannot change the actions of your comrades. In BIA, you have to think it out, not only for yourself but for your squad. If your tactics are poor, your squad will die. In COD, it's all scripted and the AI is sad really. The Krauts just come at you in wave after wave like a bunch of Chinese Communists all hopped up on Opium... LOL ___________________________________________________ Patience has its limits. Take it too far, and it's cowardice. - George Jackson |
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Look, as for the US army, there good, with brilliant technology and military intelligence, but sometimes they can make mistakes (friendly fire) as all armies do. I being British am also proud that the world's greatest super power has embraced us across the pond, I am pleased that the British Army suppoted the US Army in the current Iraq War along the Kuwait border and in the southern city of Basra. I respect the long British History and decorated military we have in this country, with some of the greatest tactics and discipline in the world, the British S.A.S (Special Air Service) for example are the worlds greatest special forces regiment more so than the US Delta Force for such missions as the Iranian Embassy siege and the Bravo Two Zero's scud mission during the Gulf War.
Now as for Call of Duty 2, you were right unrealisticness is not a proper word and I apologise for that, Call of Duty 2 may not offer the same tactical combat as Brothers In Arms, but Brothers In Arms can be very repetitive and does'nt have as good graphics as Call of Duty 2, Nothing in Brothers In Arms compares to the Pointe Du Hoc mission as you scale a vast cliffside with German machine gunfire all around you, you hear wails, and bullets wizzing past you head, hundreds of men pouring up the beach itself, each different from one another on how they react to a certain situation, its so atmouspheric, on a HD television with surround sound, you hear a grenade land behind you, the back speakers ring with noise and your character falls to the ground, the screen blurry and clouded, you hear echoes and shouting as you are picked up and thrust into it once more, it's intense, in fact im going to play it again after i've posted this very note. The Xbox 360 really pushes itself to play it and its not surprising, the detail is astounding, from the walls of French Houses to the German Panzer Tanks, it is photorealistic, its that good. If you want to know what it really was like to fight in World War II then please get Call of Duty II, or at least look into it as you can't judge a game until you've played it, Once you have tried this game I guarantee you will never put it down. I used to think how you guys did, I thought Brothers In Arms Road To Hill 30 was the cream of the First-Person shooting wargame, but now I think of it more as a prologue, no a gapfiller, until Call of Duty came and blew me away. I telling you I have'nt seen the kind of gaming in Call of Duty games since Half-Life or Halo, it is the definative world war II video game, and nothing, nothing compares. And if you want me to post websire after website proclaiming this truth I will, if thats what it takes to convince you guys. P.S. The US Army use Full Spectrum Warrior to train their infantry tactics not Brothers In Arms (LOL). |
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What would you know about what is was like to fight in WWI? You talk like a teenager. All I'm saying is COD2 is completely scripted as far as the AI goes. You control only yourself, you do not direct a squad. I would think the US army would know just a bit more than you on authentic squad tactics, don't you think? And you can shove it on your friendly fire statement. If you think you fooled me by adding that platitudenous statement that "all armies do it",your sadly mistaken. As for " the greatest tactics and long and glorius military history of the British, they spent about 600 years putting about 2/3 of the world in almost complete misery. It's not that glorious of a history. And as for your half-cocked assertion that BIA is not used to train US infantry squad tactics...READ THIS PLEASE Third from last paragraph. As a matter of fact, the entire article supports my points completely. ___________________________________________________ Patience has its limits. Take it too far, and it's cowardice. - George Jackson |
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spartan_070, i think you're missing the message of both games.
COD is a larger point of view in war with outstanding backgrounds (tanks, vehicles, men, buildings, and other small detals). the game wants you feel like you are fighting a huge war. whereas in BIA, it's story of paratroopers who just landed in normandy. the paratroopers were poorly scattered all over normandy. they had small pockets of forces. it's not a major frontal assualt like COD... "1st Lt. Dike: 1st sergeant Lipton? you get things organized here. I'm gonna go for...help!" |
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just as an overview BIA is sooooooo much better than COD2 but COD2 multiplayer is extremely fun and better than bia
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I suppose you're right, Call of Duty is on a larger scale but that is what I like, In Brothers In Arms its just a small squad of men, carrying out missions which look exactly the same as the last, As for you MKlangelo, I never claimed to know what it was like to fight in world war one (even though were talking about a game set in WWII lol). Also your staement on the British was for me disconcerting, and if you are going to insult someone please get your facts right as you claim that we put 2/3 of the world into misery (not unlike what you yanks and Bush are doing now) for the last 600 years when, in 1400 most of the known world had not been discoverd (the Americas). Britain has had a longer history than you lot (more than 2000 years, which is what you Americans would call prehistoric as yours has only been for the last 300 years) whereupon unlike you lot, we have learn't from our mistakes. As for your assumption of Brothers In Arms being used to train the the US Army in tactics, it does not surprise me as thats probably why the US army is so good at shooting each other, its because of the arthirites from playing to many computer games, anyway whats the point in using a game to train people which is set sixty years ago, you don't get SCUD missiles, Antherax and Suicide Bombers on Brothers In Arms do you, no just a bunch of Germans attacking with very large rifles which belong in a museum, so whats the point. |
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