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Originally posted by SnowLeopard:

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Originally posted by Metninja:
Yes, now he has the freedom to do more important things than saving the world, such as throwing security guards around like ragdolls with his superhuman strength and blowing up hotdog stands and stealing laptops to create "diversions."

Would you quit bi%#*ng so much and just accept the change. Don't you understand that the shadow wont always be the safest place, sometimes you have to fight for what is right.

What are you talking about? Moronic statements like yours are the only reason I bother posting in this forum, because people like you don't understand what made splinter cell great and not some other ripoff unoriginal action game like all the rest. "the shadow wont always be the safest place?"... Huh? So I gather you didn't understand why Sam fought using stealth tactics and shadows? Didn't make any sense to you, couldn't get your head around it? I guess you weren't a fan of the earlier games then. That's fine, but you should at least understand why this new departure isn't getting a warm welcome.

I have a reason to be pissed about Conviction, you don't apparently. So play the game and enjoy that piece of trash, but don't you dare tell anyone they have to accept such a stupid idea for a game like you do. Different opinions are valid as long as there's a case for them.

Doctor, take your own pills.

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Originally posted by Metninja:

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Originally posted by SnowLeopard:

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Originally posted by Metninja:
Yes, now he has the freedom to do more important things than saving the world, such as throwing security guards around like ragdolls with his superhuman strength and blowing up hotdog stands and stealing laptops to create "diversions."

Would you quit bi%#*ng so much and just accept the change. Don't you understand that the shadow wont always be the safest place, sometimes you have to fight for what is right.

What are you talking about? Moronic statements like yours are the only reason I bother posting in this forum, because people like you don't understand what made splinter cell great and not some other ripoff unoriginal action game like all the rest. "the shadow wont always be the safest place?"... Huh? So I gather you didn't understand why Sam fought using stealth tactics and shadows? Didn't make any sense to you, couldn't get your head around it? I guess you weren't a fan of the earlier games then. That's fine, but you should at least understand why this new departure isn't getting a warm welcome.

I have a reason to be pissed about Conviction, you don't apparently. So play the game and enjoy that piece of trash, but don't you dare tell anyone they have to accept such a stupid idea for a game like you do. Different opinions are valid as long as there's a case for them.

Ok, man, you have all the right to dislike what Ubisoft is doing with Conviction (a lot of people feel the same way), there's no doubt about that, but calling the game a piece of trash without playing it is, in my opinion, completely absurd. You could at least wait to see a more advanced build of the game, before judging it with such conviction.

Anyway, is just an observation, you can do whatever you want, I can't and I don't mean to change you.

I don't think Spinter Cell fans are complaining just to compain..

They hope it will be heard and something will happen from it..


and MAYBE that is why the big delay.. Because they are fixing there issues.



P.S.

if something bothers us about the game and want to talk about it, where else to go?? lol!

Sometimes it feels good to get fustration out..
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH see?? do it with me.. lol

No progression?

Problem with ranting is how many people actually support it, how many are here agreeing with you. I like the way Conviction seems to go, but I can't be bothered to protect it here everyday. Surely I'm not the only one thinking like this. I hope these complainments won't cause revolution.

SC1, 2, 3, and Xbox DA were great but every time they felt blander and more repetive. Small levels, same AI, same story with same charachters. New gen DA just tried to mix old and new style without great success, narrow corridors in full light - that's some great stealth . Montreal has done all the real achievements; SC1, SC:CT, old DA and now possibly Conviction. Shouldn't forget Pandora Tomorrow multiplayer though.
SC1: Revolutionary challenger for MGS,
CT: Old fashion SC perfectilized,
DA: Story and Sam Fisher brought up,
Conviction: ?

Rather another stealth-action Splinter Cell with some 24-Bourne similiarities than brand new franchise. Conviction fits Splinter Cell universe just fine, in my opinion. More story, not necessarily less good gaming.

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Conviction: ?

Conviction: A huge change in the traditional andmost popular gameplay, that is completely the opposite of the SPLINTER CELL part of the title, that more and more people are starting to look down upon....

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Originally posted by Shadow_Agent1:
is completely the opposite of the SPLINTER CELL part of the title

And how exactly is ConViction the opposite of the Splinter Cell title?

Nowhere in the words Splinter Cell does it say that it's restricted to light and shadow.

Splinter Cell is a game about an elite covert program where operatives use traditional means of espionage. And espionage is in no way restricted to light and shadow.

It's the exact opposite of the gameplay that they've dished out in the past, but yet again Splinter Cell never said it was a game about light and shadow, it's a game about splinter cell operatives in any means of espionage.

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Originally posted by Toniosnipes:
There is no use complaining, the game is evolving and if you do not like it to bad!!!! Its not like the devs will listen and even if they did they would not care. The game is changing, it is a way to get new players. Please, all these negative rants are the same. Be positive and enjoy Sams new awesome look, moves, and stealth style. Are they supposed to just pretend double agent didnt happen and put sam back into NSA?? Go with the story. If you dont like it play the older games.

I disagree. The more we complain the more they are likely to pay attention. When they come vist their trusty forum to see how the hype meter is fairing lately I think they would be suprised if every thread was a hate or doubt thread about Conviction. But of course this game is already near completion but its not too late to save the next one. I could really care less if Sam Fisher found a time machine and went back 20 years as long as it had good Merc vs. Spy Multiplayer!

I just dont understand how anyone can seriously like the idea of this game. So far the only people that I have noticed that have liked the idea of this game have been...

1.People chosing to be ignorant
2.Newbies that never got to play the older splinter cell games or failed to appricate them
3.Fanboys that would never bash Splinter Cell even if the franchise was turned into a multi-series tetris game.
4.A certian forum moderator afraid of losing his status if he dared to go outside his little box of power.
5. Your name is pietjevlip

you're quite wrong there. I don't fall into any of these categories.

I loved every SC game I've till now (SAR/PT/CT).
I like this particular idea. I also like the people who execute this idea, knowing they 'know how to execute an idea'...

That doesn't mean blindly following someone, it means keeping your eyes open, looking close to what someone does.

And I know I'm not alone in this.

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Originally posted by pietjevlip:
you're quite wrong there. I don't fall into any of these categories.

I loved every SC game I've till now (SAR/PT/CT).
I like this particular idea. I also like the people who execute this idea, knowing they 'know how to execute an idea'...

That doesn't mean blindly following someone, it means keeping your eyes open, looking close to what someone does.

And I know I'm not alone in this.

Then now you fit.

poor LaurenISM.

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Originally posted by LaurenIsSoMosh:

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Originally posted by Shadow_Agent1:
is completely the opposite of the SPLINTER CELL part of the title

And how exactly is ConViction the opposite of the Splinter Cell title?

Nowhere in the words Splinter Cell does it say that it's restricted to light and shadow.

Splinter Cell is a game about an elite covert program where operatives use traditional means of espionage. And espionage is in no way restricted to light and shadow.

It's the exact opposite of the gameplay that they've dished out in the past, but yet again Splinter Cell never said it was a game about light and shadow, it's a game about splinter cell operatives in any means of espionage.

I beg to differ, In this trailer they say to embrace the shadows, which I always have done and now I cant anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BhCTgy1uYc

wow... 'embrace the shadows' is not saying 'stealth is resricted to shadows'. They were pointing out the gameplay mechanic

besides... embrace the shadows... is that some sort of 'hug-a-tree'?

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Originally posted by pietjevlip:
wow... 'embrace the shadows' is not saying 'stealth is resricted to shadows'. They were pointing out the gameplay mechanic

besides... embrace the shadows... is that some sort of 'hug-a-tree'?

Oh come on we all know these games have been built on shadows. The stealth meter was one thing that proves it. Of course its not restricted to it, but if you had to play splinter cell with full bright on, meaning there are no shadows, do you honestly think you will have much fun. The game wouldnt even be stealth.

Now there's exactly what I meant. The 'stealth meter' is something from the game, a so-called gameplay-mechanic. The games have been built around shadows, that's right. But there are LOTS of ways of stealth that weren't used in the game. That will probably be settled by ConViction

Playing Splinter Cell without shadows isn't nice for the maps we have seen in previous games. those maps were made to be played with L&S stealth. This will not be true for ConViction. The maps will be built for the game they are making again, including the changes.

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Originally posted by ORsaleen:
I just dont understand how anyone can seriously like the idea of this game. So far the only people that I have noticed that have liked the idea of this game have been...

1.People chosing to be ignorant
2.Newbies that never got to play the older splinter cell games or failed to appricate them
3.Fanboys that would never bash Splinter Cell even if the franchise was turned into a multi-series tetris game.
4.A certian forum moderator afraid of losing his status if he dared to go outside his little box of power.
5. Your name is pietjevlip

1. You can not choose to be ignorant.

2. Just because you never played the old ones doesn't mean you're automatically going to like the new one.

3. Do you see what you're saying? It's the fanboys of the forums that don't like it so much. Of course they're going to bash it.

4. Moderators are not afraid of losing their titles, because unless they misuse their privileges, they're fine. Nothing about being a moderator says that you have to like the game of the forum that you're moderating. And being a moderator does not mean that you aren't allowed to have an opinion.

5. Please, are you serious? I'm in here too!

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Originally posted by pietjevlip:
poor LaurenISM.

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Originally posted by LaurenIsSoMosh:

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Originally posted by ORsaleen:
I just dont understand how anyone can seriously like the idea of this game. So far the only people that I have noticed that have liked the idea of this game have been...

1.People chosing to be ignorant
2.Newbies that never got to play the older splinter cell games or failed to appricate them
3.Fanboys that would never bash Splinter Cell even if the franchise was turned into a multi-series tetris game.
4.A certian forum moderator afraid of losing his status if he dared to go outside his little box of power.
5. Your name is pietjevlip

1. You can not choose to be ignorant.

2. Just because you never played the old ones doesn't mean you're automatically going to like the new one.

3. Do you see what you're saying? It's the fanboys of the forums that don't like it so much. Of course they're going to bash it.

4. Moderators are not afraid of losing their titles, because unless they misuse their privileges, they're fine. Nothing about being a moderator says that you have to like the game of the forum that you're moderating. And being a moderator does not mean that you aren't allowed to have an opinion.

5. Please, are you serious? I'm in here too!

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Originally posted by pietjevlip:
poor LaurenISM.

lol ill add you later.

1. choosing to be ignorant is called stupidity, I just didnt want to hurt anyons feelings.

2.Everyone liked the old ones, name one person who doesnt and ill prove them to be a newbie.

3.I'm not talking about those fanboys. Im talking about the blind fanboys that dont diss anything and never will.

4.It was a simple induction that was made from an observation. All observed moderators of this forum dont talk bad about Conviction. Therefore there are no moderators that talk bad about Conviction. As for the rest I just had to spice it up.

I guess we will just have to wait until the game comes out until people stop b1tching and posting negative rants eh?

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Originally posted by Icecube1137:
I guess we will just have to wait until the game comes out until people stop b1tching and posting negative rants eh?

What are you going to do about it. You are no mod or an Ubi person plus I think youll be banned before you can try to do anything.

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Originally posted by Icecube1137:
I guess we will just have to wait until the game comes out until people stop b1tching and posting negative rants eh?

Once the game comes out there will likely be more negative rants.