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I wasn't refering to that...I was talking about my opinion on SCDA being the the best in the SC series. I never said THAT was a fact. I guess from now on I will have to put in a disclaimer before posting.
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but scda is the best in the series!!!!!!11!!!
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I like them all, even DA. And im looking foward towards Convictions, I liked the old gameplay but it's getting way too repetitive for me and every gadget they implement only makes it that much easier for me to beat the game. (Yes, even on expert/elite)
So a change in the gameplay is welcomed by me, however it would be nice if they eventually went back to the L & S gameplay later on in the series. edit: and "It didn't do too badly in the reviews" is a fact, because it didn't. Did it do better than the other SC's? no. but it surely never had 'bad' ratings, either. Xbox live account - Redemptionx7 |
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And that's lovely for you, but criticism is all just opinion. Sticking it all together and pulling an average doesn't tell us anything useful, it just defeats the point of criticism entirely, which is to give a trusted opinion on something. Of course critics differ, which is why the trick is to find a magazine, or even an individual critic you generally agree with and just check out those reviews. Besides, haven't you ever heard the old adage that you can make something look like anything you want by manipulating the statistics? A nice quote on this: "Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable." Basically, the numbers are little traitors, and I don't trust them. But, fun aside, I think my listing of awards given and reviews by magazine is a hell of a lot more useful than your metacritic averaging. Note, that's just my opinion. |
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i loved DA on both the XBox and 360
the XBox version was an homage to Chaos Theory but also had its on directions the 360 version had excellent graphics and i thought the HQ missions were brilliant, as were the SHang Hai, boat and Kinshasa mission (arctic mission was pretty good too) i think Conviction looks awesome and hope it delivers  |
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Agent. Metacritic doesn't give opinions. It sums up what most people think with an average. Even though "everyones opinions matters" UBI should be taking critics opinions much more seriously than yours or mine. Just because you may have likes it facts (and they are facts, that it scored LESS) are more important.
 "I think the company has blocked the Dev's access to the forums. "'So, Suits, what's the feedback on SCC been like?' 'Super duper, Devs, 100% super duper! The fans love it!'" " - CoastalGirl |
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You kind of missed my point entirely there. I'm aware that Metcritic doesn't give opinions. It just gives a weighted average based on the scores from various publications on that product. My point was that because criticism is just opinion, and therefore very subjective by its very nature, the idea of a website that merely averages a collection of subjective scores merely destroys what little meaning those numbers had in the first place when they were decided upon by the critic. You also read my quote a little too literally. My intention was to highlight the ease with which statistics can be manipulated to suit an agenda. The quote was just a bit of fun to go along with it, but I don't necessarily believe it wholeheartedly. It may have scored less, but some people talk about it as if it was a complete failure. Looking at the high critical praise lauded upon the game, its clear that just isn't the case. |
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Ive liked every splinter cell so far (exept PT), i think conviction looks O.K. but i hope they ramp up the graphics, it looks horrible! anyway, im kinda glad splinter cell is going in a new direction, it was getting kind of old.
The only thing I dont like about Double Agent is the MP online. ubisoft "dumbed it down" so now all the drooling windowlickers with IQs of 75 can play and actually do kind of decent. I liked how Chaos Thoery was retard proof online. |
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I'm guessing that was a mistake, otherwise you've just outdone yourself.
I don't hate Conviction, either. Seeing as I haven't seen much of it. But from what I have seen I think I will prefer previous titles. Anyway, it seems my theory was wrong. There are quite a lot of people who disliked DA but like what they see in Conviction or vice versa. It's a joke! When you look at me like that, it's a joke. |
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Yep it was a mistake. I have no clue how that happened
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I must have missed the memo that told us the series had been broken. |
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I am guessing you are yet to play SCDA for PC.
It's a joke! When you look at me like that, it's a joke. |
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C'mon, Montreal is making this game. They are not known for glitches.
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 Hey ye! I just saw graphiques of SCC and read some articles. Hmmm ... I really enjoyed SCDA (I never played any of SCs more than once but I'm replaying SCDA I'm experiencing poor performance though!) It's got a lot of bugs (Actually I may name it SplinterCell-BugBox!!!) but I liked it. Hmmm I think I like SCC kind of but I should play it. Hmmm ... I'm not sure even I can play it on my PC. |
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It doesn't matter if Conviction turns out to be a great game or not. The fact is Splinter Cell started out as a stealth game.Sneaking around in the dark using cool gadgets and aquiring intelligence data for the NSA.Sam was a secret agent working for the US gov. And that is what i for one was drawn to the series for.
Now if UBI wants to make a new kind of game where you are a rogue agent,not affiliated anymore with the NSA,and no more ninja suit,no sneaking around with cool gadgets,,,i'm all for it.But please don't call it Splinter Cell if its no longer what makes Splinter Cell,Splinter Cell. Chocolate chip cookies are great.But if in the process of trying to improve it,the choco chips are removed,then i don't want it either. This is the same.If you want to make a new kind of game and start a new franchise,great. But please keep the aspects that make Splinter Cell what it is intact. And i like Double Agent for Xbox alot.Especially in Elite mode.  |
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"I am guessing you are yet to play SCDA for PC."
Not planning on it. I have my 360 version and it works as well as any game I've played on the 360. As for shadow ninja...why must we condemn Montreal for trying new things, adding a completely new version of stealth gameplay (Splinter Cell was about avoiding being noticed; it still is), and advancing an intriguing story that will get us even more into the mind of Sam Fisher? I love their idea. |
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Yes, I agree, but some people can't understand that. And stavros, I don't think you really read a single thing he wrote. Go back over it until you see your reply didn't really address anything he said. It's a joke! When you look at me like that, it's a joke. |
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 i agree.Stavros, where exactly in my statement did i condemn montreal for trying something new? I actually applauded it by saying "i'm all for it". eskimobob is right.  My greatest hope is that Montreal will fool us all.I hope that by the end of Conviction,Sam is finally over sarah's death,and back with the NSA,and the ninja suit,goggles,gadgets,etc..doing covert intelligence gathering for the US gov. Then we can look forward to SC6 feeling natural again. Because after all,the term Splinter Cell is a title given to a small group working for the NSA.A lone field operative,a runner,a techie,and a boss.So if Sam is no longer going to be affiliated with the NSA,then how can he still be a Splinter Cell operative? This is my point. |
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The changes in Conviction from the usual format of Splinter Cell are fully constructive developments from the story of DA, it make sense why Sam Fisher is situated in such position in Conviction. From the interviews I have watched, the NSA is involved with the story, and Sam Fisher is still involved with the politics and networks he has been dealing with from the last games. Unless the story in Conviction developed too farfetched, I find it acceptable to have Sam Fisher as a fugitive in Conviction and title the game under the Splinter Cell series. I don’t think Splinter Cell to me necessary just mean Ninja Suite and hide in the dark and I look forward to the changes from Conviction, rather than another clone-ish Splinter Cell with updated graphic and AI.  "Remember… patient, discipline." |
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