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Originally posted by BasheD.:
I would just slaughter anybody in the map to make sure all my opponents are dead.

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Originally posted by JediWithASniper:
How about a real mp idea like this:


I think it is utterly retarded that as a third echelon spy in mp you don't have any bullets, it would have been so simple to do, create a rival force similar to third echelon with similar agents like splinter cells, and they compete to achieve an objective, retrieving intel from somewhere or something like that.

It could be done in 2 man teams or 4 man teams, and then involve multiple AI units across the map that are identical to what you deal with in gameplay.

They could have so many game types, from assassinations, to kidnappings, to interrogations, to intel retrieval, to hostage rescues.

There is so much potential, but the games just become stupid with all these dumb devices that never help at all, they should have given the spies in double agent a baseball bat, that would have dealt with the mercs.

All they have to do is make the maps fairly good sized, and give the teams a few choices of entry method ranging from parachuting in, to being dropped off by truck, or coming in on foot.

This method of play would be incredible, because every mistake that one team makes causes the alert level, and difficulty of the mission to increase for either one or both teams.

Say 2 teams are playing game type intel retrieval, team A takes out a couple of guards, but does it way to loudly, and sets off building alarms and the sort, well sometimes that might make it so that the guards leave post and move to intercept team A, leaving team B with a much clearer objective.

In other situations, such as an assassination, you have the same scenario with team A being too loud, now it alerts the target, causing a timer to be raised in which the target will leave the area, plus all guards become more alert.

I really think that whoever is designing the multiplayer needs to stop making stupid gametypes.

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Originally posted by kalle90:

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Originally posted by JediWithASniper:
How about a real mp idea like this:


I think it is utterly retarded that as a third echelon spy in mp you don't have any bullets, it would have been so simple to do, create a rival force similar to third echelon with similar agents like splinter cells, and they compete to achieve an objective, retrieving intel from somewhere or something like that.

It could be done in 2 man teams or 4 man teams, and then involve multiple AI units across the map that are identical to what you deal with in gameplay.

They could have so many game types, from assassinations, to kidnappings, to interrogations, to intel retrieval, to hostage rescues.

There is so much potential, but the games just become stupid with all these dumb devices that never help at all, they should have given the spies in double agent a baseball bat, that would have dealt with the mercs.

All they have to do is make the maps fairly good sized, and give the teams a few choices of entry method ranging from parachuting in, to being dropped off by truck, or coming in on foot.

This method of play would be incredible, because every mistake that one team makes causes the alert level, and difficulty of the mission to increase for either one or both teams.

Say 2 teams are playing game type intel retrieval, team A takes out a couple of guards, but does it way to loudly, and sets off building alarms and the sort, well sometimes that might make it so that the guards leave post and move to intercept team A, leaving team B with a much clearer objective.

In other situations, such as an assassination, you have the same scenario with team A being too loud, now it alerts the target, causing a timer to be raised in which the target will leave the area, plus all guards become more alert.

I really think that whoever is designing the multiplayer needs to stop making stupid gametypes.

Hahahaha. Simpsons did it.

Its in DA xbox version. Bad if you ask me.

If we would use the MvS system then there would be few helping things.
1.More players and multiple teams, 6 or even 8 is pretty low variablitiy and excitement factor, "oh no, spy is neutralizing tank 2, oh well i cant get there anymore I just camp here"
2.Free choice. People could freely choose bethween M and S and then pick any team. Think its like Swat assault forces and Splinter Cells combined. This would make 2Merc 2Spy team vs 2 Merc 2spy team matches possible, and even 1 Spy vs maxium number of mercs.

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Hahahaha. Simpsons did it.

Its in DA xbox version. Bad if you ask me.

If we would use the MvS system then there would be few helping things.
1.More players and multiple teams, 6 or even 8 is pretty low variablitiy and excitement factor, "oh no, spy is neutralizing tank 2, oh well i cant get there anymore I just camp here"
2.Free choice. People could freely choose bethween M and S and then pick any team. Think its like Swat assault forces and Splinter Cells combined. This would make 2Merc 2Spy team vs 2 Merc 2spy team matches possible, and even 1 Spy vs maxium number of mercs.

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Originally posted by JediWithASniper:

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Hahahaha. Simpsons did it.

Its in DA xbox version. Bad if you ask me.

If we would use the MvS system then there would be few helping things.
1.More players and multiple teams, 6 or even 8 is pretty low variablitiy and excitement factor, "oh no, spy is neutralizing tank 2, oh well i cant get there anymore I just camp here"
2.Free choice. People could freely choose bethween M and S and then pick any team. Think its like Swat assault forces and Splinter Cells combined. This would make 2Merc 2Spy team vs 2 Merc 2spy team matches possible, and even 1 Spy vs maxium number of mercs.

I've watched a few videos of the xbox version of mp, and it is nowhere close to what I am talking about, what my idea refers to has AI characters in the game, and plays about the same as the co-op from chaos theory.

The scale I am mentioning means that each match played would probably take between 30 to 40 minutes to play, just like a regular level does.

The tiny little levels on the xbox version and 360 version would not be good enough for my idea, it would have to be a full scale map that was big enough that if you could run in a straight line at each other, you wouldn't see each other for about 5 min.

Each team would also score points based off of the style that they played the mission with, you select your team style before each mission, whether it is eliminate all AI, or incapacitate all AI, or Invisible to AI, then you would score additional xp and the like for your adherance to
your own prescribed style.

You could also have the missions set up with multiple objectives, like a specific number of intel objectives or something, that way you may or may not be going for the same piece of information.

Then the whole concept could be tied to a global scale where it shows which set of splinter cells is the most successful, whether it is third echelon, or one of the rival factions.

I personally hate the fast paced, retarded spies that they have given us in both DA versions, I want a real one, like sam, or one of the co-op characters from chaos theory.

Also, the number of AI loaded into the map would be enough that the task of just getting through the AI to the objective would be difficult.

So...um...no, it has not been done before, there was a semi half lame attempt at something, but it was retarded.

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Originally posted by JediWithASniper:
Each type of entry point would give you different positives and negatives for the mission, different starting points, therefore multiple ways of playing every single mission.

I suppose I may be ahead of my time, I wish they would hire me as an advisor at Ubisoft, then I could tell them what to do...LOL!!!

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Originally posted by MethodicalPlot:
Hahahaha. Simpsons did it.

Its in DA xbox version. Bad if you ask me.

If we would use the MvS system then there would be few helping things.
1.More players and multiple teams, 6 or even 8 is pretty low variability and excitement factor, "oh no, spy is neutralizing tank 2, oh well i cant get there anymore I just camp here"
2.Free choice. People could freely choose bethween M and S and then pick any (color?)team. Think its like Swat assault forces and Splinter Cells combined. This would make 2Merc 2Spy team vs 2 Merc 2spy team matches possible, and even 1 Spy vs maxium number of mercs.

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Originally posted by kalle90:

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Originally posted by MethodicalPlot:
Hahahaha. Simpsons did it.

Its in DA xbox version. Bad if you ask me.

If we would use the MvS system then there would be few helping things.
1.More players and multiple teams, 6 or even 8 is pretty low variability and excitement factor, "oh no, spy is neutralizing tank 2, oh well i cant get there anymore I just camp here"
2.Free choice. People could freely choose bethween M and S and then pick any (color?)team. Think its like Swat assault forces and Splinter Cells combined. This would make 2Merc 2Spy team vs 2 Merc 2spy team matches possible, and even 1 Spy vs maxium number of mercs.

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Originally posted by crossfadeXX:
2 vs 2 is perfect

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So you're saying that 4 spies would never rush one merc? I've been double teamed plenty of times on CT. I'm pretty sure some rambo people out there would love the idea of flash banging one merc constantly and surrounding him on all sides. It's a high possibility. I'm not saying that people would always do this, but it'd most likely be a very popular strategy. You're thinking too simplemindedly by thinking everyone would stick to the thought that spies should work individually.

And as for the spies being unable to accomplish objectives easily, One guy hacking/planting a bomb/snagging a disk while three others cover their backs would seem pretty efficient to me. Especially if they manage to draw every merc into that one area then moving out to a different objective. Seems pretty easy to me seeing that they've got all sorts of gadgets to slow these mercs down. (: