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I do plan on reworking this and adding a lot more detail, but what I dislike the most so far is Sam's almost pathetic leg breaking issue. I'm thinking that after five games, transitioning onto a new main protagonist because the last one got pushed off a guard tower is a really lousy thing for me to do to a hero. I want to make it really heroic like in a Captain-Mitchell-calling-in-the-air-strike meets stealth-action-superhero sort of way, but until I think of something worthwhile, I guess being pushed off a guard tower tells the basic idea well enough.

And personally I think having to scale the tower to interrogate a worthless guard would be the weirdest objective they've ever given you, so that will probably be out too once I come up with something better.
 
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I know taking out Fisher would be insane, but he is in his 50's. Maybe that's why hes not doing anymore split jumps or hanging on pipes in SCC. It would be cool if you could do some missions wih Sam and do physically demanding missions with another agent. Wink



i know a lot of guys (in 80s) who keep running more miles than myself with 20.
Sam retired for a long time from navy seals, and they hired him for the SC job, so what makes you think people are old enought to do something like that?

i think if he does train hard like he does he doesnt have to retire. he could train some other SCs.
and suddenly gets in a mission...

(well im making a lot of histories here... i just love Sam.
he deserves to be happy
 
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Like I've always told my friends, Sam is getting Old, and as much as His character is one of the best in video games, I don't want prequels, so they need to start moving towards shadownet.

Turning Sam into an instructor, or trainer would not work with his personality, so they would basically have to transition him out, and bring in the new shadownet guys.

Introduce more co-op play.
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Exactly that's what I'm talking about. bow

if they do that, ill stop buying this game!
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Old snake will die and they'll introduce a new clone of Solid Snake who is young.

As for Sam, he should retire or die but that won't happen. He sells the game. Without Sam it wouldn't be Splinter Cell.


Why not? Gamers went crazy for co-op in Chaos Theory and (in the case of next-gen) wept the absence of it in Double Agent.

Sure, having Sam in the next game would be awesome as usual, but would it be smart? Think about it. A guy as old as Sam has got to be flat-out tired of being a soldier for as long as he has been, and after what the NSA has put him through, betraying him, why should he ever want to go back to them after all he's been through because of them? Having him in a sixth title almost wouldn't make sense.

Sam should retire, end that saga before it gets ruined simply by being around too long, and then bring in the co-op splinter cell agents as the main protagonists for any future titles. Young, deadly, and full of life (and split-jumps). Age would no longer be a problem, and the series could be back in light and shadow gameplay stronger than ever with a brand new story to tell.



nah...
Splinter Cell without Sam Fisher is like a baby without diapers....
full of ****...
 
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Well since Sam does not age anymore, I cannot see him going anywhere.



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nah...
Splinter Cell without Sam Fisher is like a baby without diapers....
Video games in general disagree with you.

New main protagonists are introduced all the time and success keeps reeling in.

Splinter Cell is a top secret covert operative program, not Sam Fisher.

Up until now, the games are all about Sam Fisher, but I see nothing wrong with introducing a new guy, one who is fully capable.

I doubt they'd lose any potential by going back to light and shadows with a new guy. Frankly, because new fans would not be bothered by the loss of a certain character, and old fans would just be happy to get back into light and shadow.

Ghost Recon has not been about any one individual. Rainbow Six is not about any one individual. Eventually, Splinter Cell is going to have stop being about any one individual.
 
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For me, when I hear, "My name is Sam Fisher, Iam a Splinter Cell", its hard to imagine anyone else filling that role.



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For me, when I hear, "My name is Sam Fisher, Iam a Splinter Cell", its hard to imagine anyone else filling that role.



i couldnt agree more with you.
 
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nah...
Splinter Cell without Sam Fisher is like a baby without diapers....
Video games in general disagree with you.

New main protagonists are introduced all the time and success keeps reeling in.

Splinter Cell is a top secret covert operative program, not Sam Fisher.

Up until now, the games are all about Sam Fisher, but I see nothing wrong with introducing a new guy, one who is fully capable.

I doubt they'd lose any potential by going back to light and shadows with a new guy. Frankly, because new fans would not be bothered by the loss of a certain character, and old fans would just be happy to get back into light and shadow.

Ghost Recon has not been about any one individual. Rainbow Six is not about any one individual. Eventually, Splinter Cell is going to have stop being about any one individual.



look...
ghost recon is ghost recon
rainbow six is rainbow six
brothers in arms is brothers in arms

24 without jack bauer sucks... as it sucks 24 without tony almeida.

its simple: sam dies and dies the merchandinsing of splinter cell.
its goody to play coop-op but its different.
its coop-op.
when you imagine the level in the lighthouse i dont see any other face than that grizly and green eyed man.
 
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For me, when I hear, "My name is Sam Fisher, Iam a Splinter Cell", its hard to imagine anyone else filling that role.



i couldnt agree more with you.


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of course ironside's voice will be missed but its time to move on...


Contradiction, anyone?
 
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Well since Sam does not age anymore, I cannot see him going anywhere.
From what I understand, that was never confirmed, it's still an iffy statement, and they may or may not make that the case. Seemingly it was brought up, offered, and put aside as an option.
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For me, when I hear, "My name is Sam Fisher, I am a Splinter Cell", its hard to imagine anyone else filling that role.
I admit, that's basically how I feel too.

But I feel more strongly that they are just pushing Sam too far. Stretching the elasticity on his life.

I believe the introduction of a new main protagonist could work wonders if done properly. Put a story behind it. Sam slipped up, went missing in action, they have to send in a new guy to get him out in one piece and finish the mission. After that, Sam can't do it anymore and this new guy has to take over. Something like that. Just my opinions.

I personally think it's inevitable, unless they really want to lock Sam's age and keep him at forty, even fifty years from now, either that or end the series.
 
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For me, when I hear, "My name is Sam Fisher, Iam a Splinter Cell", its hard to imagine anyone else filling that role.

i couldnt agree more with you.

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of course ironside's voice will be missed but its time to move on...

Contradiction, anyone?

of course its not contradition cause what i said in the other posts is that sam has to be sam, not another protagonist in a new game. as for the movie if ironside doesnt play it, that doesnt mean they cant find a new guy to play sam.
2 diferent things...
 
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of course its not contradition cause what i said in the other posts is that sam has to be sam, not another protagonist in a new game. as for the movie if ironside doesnt play it, that doesnt mean they cant find a new guy to play sam.
2 diferent things...
Well, Eidos handles it's Tomb Raider Franchise (unfortunately) like that. In the game you (unfortunately) don't play a model based on Angelina Jolie and neither are they using Angelina as Voice Talent for the game, but in the movies she actually plays (or rather IS) Lara (thank god). Smile

Ubi could handle it the same way if they want. Smile


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maybe ubisoft should make him related to chuck norris. then they can make sequels even in his 90's.



i can split jump.
 
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Maybe Sam Fisher's brother Peter can take over as the new SC... oh no, wait he died Shady
 
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Oh, and reason number five hundred why I think they need to get a new protagonist: Prince of Persia.

Prince of Persia has been a trilogy about one guy, the prince. And now they start up a new work in progress, with a new prince, and he's not even a prince, he's a thief. Prince of Persia isn't about the same prince anymore.

Splinter Cell, on the other hand, has been a series about a covert espionage program, but it's stayed with one guy the whole time.

Ironic, that the Prince of Persia series, which is supposed to be about one certain person, is now moving on to a new person, and Splinter Cell, which is not supposed to be about one certain person, is still using the same old.

All around, Ubisoft is changing up protagonists. Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, Prince of Persia, and rumor has it even Assassin's Creed, but not Splinter Cell.

I say change is bound to happen sometime, hopefully soon.
 
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Yeah, it stinks...Well yeah, he is old and that makes the game realistic.

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Oh, and reason number five hundred why I think they need to get a new protagonist: Prince of Persia.

Prince of Persia has been a trilogy about one guy, the prince. And now they start up a new work in progress, with a new prince, and he's not even a prince, he's a thief. Prince of Persia isn't about the same prince anymore.

Splinter Cell, on the other hand, has been a series about a covert espionage program, but it's stayed with one guy the whole time.

Ironic, that the Prince of Persia series, which is supposed to be about one certain person, is now moving on to a new person, and Splinter Cell, which is not supposed to be about one certain person, is still using the same old.

All around, Ubisoft is changing up protagonists. Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, Prince of Persia, and rumor has it even Assassin's Creed, but not Splinter Cell.

I say change is bound to happen sometime, hopefully soon.

I don't do the Prince of Persias (surprise, surprise Veryhappy), but is the prince on the same level as Sam? I mean, Sam's about as uber awesome as a character can get...
 
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The prince is soooooooo on a higher coolness level.

Let's see Sam do over-the-head backflips and kill huge monsters that he shouldn't stand a chance against in any sane mind, and reverse time, and wall run, and rule a kingdom, and morph into some crazymazing evil prince and have internal conflicts about it. Wink2

Sam is as uber awesome as a character can get, but the prince is a character and a half, so beat that. Tongue

All in all, Ubisoft is not tied down to Sam. They have huge potential to continue the story with a younger, more capable guy. And this guy doesn't have to lack any amount of attitude, such as humor. They can add those lovable characteristics to him too.
 
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The prince is soooooooo on a higher coolness level.

Let's see Sam do over-the-head backflips and kill huge monsters that he shouldn't stand a chance against in any sane mind, and reverse time, and wall run, and rule a kingdom, and morph into some crazymazing evil prince and have internal conflicts about it. Wink2

Sam is as uber awesome as a character can get, but the prince is a character and a half, so beat that. Tongue

All in all, Ubisoft is not tied down to Sam. They have huge potential to continue the story with a younger, more capable guy. And this guy doesn't have to lack any amount of attitude, such as humor. They can add those lovable characteristics to him too.

Ironside, FTW! Veryhappy
 
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