Period are a men's best friend. And also their worst enemy in some other way.

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Originally posted by PheonixTrpo:
god you dam nay sayers are pathatic SC:C is following the story from SCA so learn to deal with it it's to late now ther not going to change the game mechanics to the old school ways although i sorta wish they did but frankly im glad ther takeing this approuch be vary intristing how the story plays out interactivly wise who knows if this works out and we see how the ending turns out hoefully sam does get get his spy suit back on (highly unlikely the way the story is going cross your fingers). just stop whining and if your going to try it then good if not then let it go and move on

I'm sorry....are you telling us not to whine about the change while at the same time telling us to cross our fingers for getting the Classic gameplay back?

I don't know why everyone is so twisted up about ConViction either. The only thing I see that is wrong is the title. It should be called Assassins Creed 2: Sam in D.C. ZOMG I can't wait to see Sam swan dive off the Washington Monument into some hay. UBI killed a great series, then they put their hood on so nobody recognized them.

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Originally posted by SUP3R_VILLAIN:
I don't know why everyone is so twisted up about ConViction either. The only thing I see that is wrong is the title. It should be called Assassins Creed 2: Sam in D.C. ZOMG I can't wait to see Sam swan dive off the Washington Monument into some hay. UBI killed a great series, then they put their hood on so nobody recognized them.

Did you already play Conviction? It's a lot more difficult to AC than you might think. Just because Sam is using a hoodie and the game is supporting the crowd element, doesn't mean it's the same gameplay. Sam can't climb up a pipe in broad daylight, jump from rooftop to rooftop, doesn't have a hidden dagger, is not working for any kind of clan or agency, he can't just go into a praying pose and is invisible to others, he doesn't need to climb overview points in order to clean a map, he's not living in the 3rd crusade and he won't jump off buildings into nearby hay wagons or wipe off the blood from killed enemies with a feather etc.

Gee, even Jade Raymond (the producer of AC) said that the game (AC) is everything but a stealth-action game like SCC. From your standpoint even Prototype would be a AC clone, because it's main character is using a hoodie, you're walking around in broad daylight and - guess what - it's using crowd. ZOMFG!!!11111

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
Did you already play Conviction?

Did you? From your comments in these forums it would seem that you have indeed played the game and loved every second of it.

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It's a lot more difficult to AC than you might think.

Huh? Well, I certainly hope it's a lot more difficult than the ridiculously easy and super-repetitive AC...

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Originally posted by marinius:
Did you? From your comments in these forums it would seem that you have indeed played the game and loved every second of it.

Let's just say I have "a bit" more background knowledge when it comes to the game than other fans do.

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Originally posted by marinius:
Huh? Well, I certainly hope it's a lot more difficult than the ridiculously easy and super-repetitive AC...

Try to see it from this perspective: Now that they've seen the issues with parts of the gameplay in AC, the SCC devs are able to learn from them and make SCC even better by avoiding these issues.

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
Try to see it from this perspective: Now that they've seen the issues with parts of the gameplay in AC, the SCC devs are able to learn from them and make SCC even better by avoiding these issues.

I don't have to try, this is what I've been saying since AC was released. This just proves my point that AC and SCC are quite similar in important features, which imo they shouldn't be when one is action-oriented and one is supposed to be stealth.

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:Let's just say I have "a bit" more background knowledge when it comes to the game than other fans do.

You've been saying that for quite some time now, and it's sounding increasingly hollow. Either we get some new info soon, or we don't. If we don't, then your "inside knowledge" is becoming rather tedious.

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Try to see it from this perspective: Now that they've seen the issues with parts of the gameplay in AC, the SCC devs are able to learn from them and make SCC even better by avoiding these issues.

So the two games are indeed comparable to the point where they can learn from the mistakes in one to improve the other. Now, ain't that a surprise

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Originally posted by Georg_Maximus:

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:Let's just say I have "a bit" more background knowledge when it comes to the game than other fans do.

You've been saying that for quite some time now, and it's sounding increasingly hollow. Either we get some new info soon, or we don't. If we don't, then your "inside knowledge" is becoming rather tedious.

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Try to see it from this perspective: Now that they've seen the issues with parts of the gameplay in AC, the SCC devs are able to learn from them and make SCC even better by avoiding these issues.

So the two games are indeed comparable to the point where they can learn from the mistakes in one to improve the other. Now, ain't that a surprise

and that's exactly why this should be renamed to Assassins Creed 2: Washington Massacre.

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Originally posted by Georg_Maximus:
You've been saying that for quite some time now, and it's sounding increasingly hollow. Either we get some new info soon, or we don't. If we don't, then your "inside knowledge" is becoming rather tedious.

It's one thing to know something but it's another if you're allowed to share that info with others, or if it's your job to do that. Do you really think the guys and girls from various videomagazines tell you all they know, as soon as they get that knowledge?

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So the two games are indeed comparable to the point where they can learn from the mistakes in one to improve the other. Now, ain't that a surprise

Both are games with an open game design so of course they can learn from eachother but you can even learn something from every good game without sharing some the same features.

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
QUOTE]So the two games are indeed comparable to the point where they can learn from the mistakes in one to improve the other. Now, ain't that a surprise

Both are games with an open game design so of course they can learn from eachother but you can even learn something from every good game without sharing some the same features.[/QUOTE]

Why are you being so evasive? You've basically stated what some of us have been suspecting for a long time: AC and SCC are so similar that the glaring flaws in AC's gameplay have caused a delay in the production of SCC because the SCC-devs need to work on those very flaws.

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
It's one thing to know something but it's another if you're allowed to share that info with others, or if it's your job to do that. Do you really think the guys and girls from various videomagazines tell you all they know, as soon as they get that knowledge?

You've been saying for a long time now that you know stuff that the rest of us don't. That's fine, but it doesn't really contribute to anything, does it? Most of us here are discussing what we know so far about the game, and if you cannot do the same, then your statements about the game is worthless. I'm not simply going to accept whatever you say simply because you claim it's inside knowledge. For all I know, the reason why we don't get any info is because the game is still too incomplete to "know" anything certain about it at all. Unshared info is no info.

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Originally posted by marinius:
Why are you being so evasive? You've basically stated what some of us have been suspecting for a long time: AC and SCC are so similar that the glaring flaws in AC's gameplay have caused a delay in the production of SCC because the SCC-devs need to work on those very flaws.

No, I'm afraid you misinterpreted that. I stated that it's different, even named the various elements that make it different compared to AC.

However one thing AC has in common with SCC is that's that it is a game with an open design basically almost non-linear and that's why the devs certainly look at other almost non-linear games. They simply want to make everything right at the beginning of their first open SC title - that's what the Team at Montreal is known for Quality (and Innovation).

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Originally posted by Georg_Maximus:
Most of us here are discussing what we know so far about the game, and if you cannot do the same, then your statements about the game is worthless.

I also discuss the part of the info that's publicly available but is often overlooked, if not even ignored like what Raphael Parent told the press during the latest presentation of the game, what Mathieu Ferland told the press during all his interviews and what's been presented at the last Ubi Days.

I agree that a lot of info is being overlooked that is like...right there. There is even a thread dedicated to a whole bunch of links with info on the game but with the threads I am seeing and what people are saying here, I believe its going completely ignored.

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Originally posted by savior2006:
I can understand that they wanted to make a new stealth dynamic because the Metal Gear Solid series does much the same thing. However, MGS never took one option (completely away) in favor of another. At least, not as far as I can tell.

the MGS series sucked, the camera wouldnt let you see all the surroundings which would get you caught very often... plus i remember that once when the first SC game released, Konami or whatever the co.'s name is claimed the SC was copywritting (i saw this on "Making the Game" on G4tv) there games, MGS, which Konami's game sucked so bad, that when i played it i calmly stood up and tured off my gamecube (this was the twin snakes episode) and put it into my closet... never touched it again


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I can't wait to see Sam swan dive off the Washington Monument into some hay.

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i know in Assassin's Creed you can jump off 100-200ft tall building into hay, but just for the record hit anything at that speed, even hay, would either break your ribs, spine, or implode your intenstines. hay isn't very soft either, if you have ever landed into a pile of clothes after jumping off the stairs in your house, it kinda hurts because clothes arnt soft either... well there's your lesson about how stupid as hell your statement was
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Originally posted by scorch54:
i know in Assassin's Creed you can jump off 100-200ft tall building into hay, but just for the record hit anything at that speed, even hay, would either break your ribs, spine, or implode your intenstines. hay isn't very soft either, if you have ever landed into a pile of clothes after jumping off the stairs in your house, it kinda hurts because clothes arnt soft either... well there's your lesson about how stupid as hell your statement was
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If any one really thinks you can swan dive 100-200ft into hay you should try it and save the world from having you and possibly your children (if you can find a retard to spawn your retard offspring) drooling around the place.

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Originally posted by soron:
If any one really thinks you can swan dive 100-200ft into hay you should try it and save the world from having you and possibly your children (if you can find a retard to spawn your retard offspring) drooling around the place.

One more line like that and you'll receive a warning, soron.

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One more line like that and you'll receive a warning, soron.

That sounds like a bit of a warning to me

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Originally posted by EskimoBob32:

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One more line like that and you'll receive a warning, soron.

That sounds like a bit of a warning to me

he ment a warning from the site, of bannment

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Originally posted by EskimoBob32:

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One more line like that and you'll receive a warning, soron.

That sounds like a bit of a warning to me

Believe me, an official warning looks different. This is just a hint.