quote:

Originally posted by go_clo:

quote:

Originally posted by soron:
If you have trouble finding the similarities of AC and SCC then you should punch your self in the face till you figure it out.

Like MKCC14 said (thanks btw), I didn't say I didn't see similarites! I see similarities but I don't see enough to write SCC off as an AC rip off!

Yes they use the same basic idea of using a crowd for cover, a.k.a hiding in plain site but thats the only ground breaking similarity. Just because they both wear hoods, it doesn't mean the games are exactly alike. My step dad uses a hood all the time...OMG What an Altair wanna-be !!! I admit, the Hero vision is kinda stupid but neither the fighting system nor the diversion system are alike. I don't remember using Altair to throw printers and chairs at guys. I also don't remember using Altair to do hand to hand combat with guards nor do I see Sam Fisher with a huge sword on his back.

Yes the similarities are there but so are the differences and the differences way out-number the similarities imo!

quote:

Originally posted by BasheD.:

quote:

Originally posted by go_clo:

quote:

Originally posted by soron:
If you have trouble finding the similarities of AC and SCC then you should punch your self in the face till you figure it out.

Like MKCC14 said (thanks btw), I didn't say I didn't see similarites! I see similarities but I don't see enough to write SCC off as an AC rip off!

Yes they use the same basic idea of using a crowd for cover, a.k.a hiding in plain site but thats the only ground breaking similarity. Just because they both wear hoods, it doesn't mean the games are exactly alike. My step dad uses a hood all the time...OMG What an Altair wanna-be !!! I admit, the Hero vision is kinda stupid but neither the fighting system nor the diversion system are alike. I don't remember using Altair to throw printers and chairs at guys. I also don't remember using Altair to do hand to hand combat with guards nor do I see Sam Fisher with a huge sword on his back.

Yes the similarities are there but so are the differences and the differences way out-number the similarities imo!

Bleh dude .. look under the surface of the medieval cities, the swords and templars.
The fighting system, or better the AI, seems in so far related, as the enemies in both games attack one after another and the player has to take them out using quick hits. The enemies in AC use swords and the ones in SCC use their hands, sure, but I actually thought you were intelligent enough to look through to what I actually thought of.

Same applies to the hood, don't look at it's visual appearance, but it's actual use. As far as we know, Sam uses it in order to not be recognized by guards, which sounds terribly like Altair folding his hands pretending to be praying.

And finally, the diversion system. In AC, you can shove a guard down a building and his collegues will run by, leaving wide open what they were supposed to guard, which looks to me like Sam shooting a hot dog stand to have all guards run there, leaving wide open what they were supposed to guard.

@MKCC: You also totally misunderstood what I meant. Read |^|!

quote:

Originally posted by MKCC14:
But why dont we look at the differences between the two games? No one wants to because they just want to put the game down.

quote:

Originally posted by soron:
sure in AC the hood he wears is white and SCC its brown but the use is clearly the same. If there is a string of games that follow this concept I will quite playing video game forever I swear!

"Do not build your community around a game.... Build your game around a community"
Staff GhostRecon.net | Aggression
WhiteKnight77 | Blackfoot Studios

quote:

Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:

quote:

Originally posted by soron:
sure in AC the hood he wears is white and SCC its brown but the use is clearly the same. If there is a string of games that follow this concept I will quite playing video game forever I swear!

Do you mean quit? Adding an e to quit makes an entirely new word with an entirely different meaning.

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:
Spyro and Rayman=Exact same

Thief and Splinter Cell=Exact same

-------

"Tonight's forecast...dark."

quote:

Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:
Spyro and Rayman=Exact same

Thief and Splinter Cell=Exact same

Those are the only two comparisons I can relate to, but, yeah, in terms of gameplay, they are pretty much the same.

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:

quote:

Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:
Spyro and Rayman=Exact same

Thief and Splinter Cell=Exact same

Those are the only two comparisons I can relate to, but, yeah, in terms of gameplay, they are pretty much the same.

Clearly they are not. Sure the same gametype like the NHLs too, but no. Thief was so boring about 90% of time in the middle. Start was exiting with great graphics and AI, big looking area and the thief like movement. But soon it became boring and turned exciting again when I got to orphanage, and saw there's more than individual objectives
And Rayman and Spyro same? No. Just as much as Crash and Spyro are the same.

-------

"Tonight's forecast...dark."

quote:

Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:

quote:

Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:
Spyro and Rayman=Exact same

Thief and Splinter Cell=Exact same

Those are the only two comparisons I can relate to, but, yeah, in terms of gameplay, they are pretty much the same.

Clearly they are not. Sure the same gametype like the NHLs too, but no. Thief was so boring about 90% of time in the middle. Start was exiting with great graphics and AI, big looking area and the thief like movement. But soon it became boring and turned exciting again when I got to orphanage, and saw there's more than individual objectives
And Rayman and Spyro same? No. Just as much as Crash and Spyro are the same.

You do realize you're arguing a completely different point than I am, right?

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:

quote:

Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:
Clearly they are not. Sure the same gametype like the NHLs too, but no. Thief was so boring about 90% of time in the middle. Start was exiting with great graphics and AI, big looking area and the thief like movement. But soon it became boring and turned exciting again when I got to orphanage, and saw there's more than individual objectives
And Rayman and Spyro same? No. Just as much as Crash and Spyro are the same.

You do realize you're arguing a completely different point than I am, right?

No

Are you arguing about something?

-------

"Tonight's forecast...dark."

quote:

Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:

quote:

Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:
Clearly they are not. Sure the same gametype like the NHLs too, but no. Thief was so boring about 90% of time in the middle. Start was exiting with great graphics and AI, big looking area and the thief like movement. But soon it became boring and turned exciting again when I got to orphanage, and saw there's more than individual objectives
And Rayman and Spyro same? No. Just as much as Crash and Spyro are the same.

You do realize you're arguing a completely different point than I am, right?

No

Are you arguing about something?

You're focused on the meat of the games, not the bones. And, if you think the bones are different, you're not looking deep enough.

There's a reason games are categorized by genre, you know.

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:
And so every racing game would be the same. Every FPS would be the same, every RPG would be the same. Sure AC and Conviction will have similiarities, but I think calling them just re-textured versions is way too early.

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:

quote:

Originally posted by CoastalGirl:
You're focused on the meat of the games, not the bones. And, if you think the bones are different, you're not looking deep enough.

There's a reason games are categorized by genre, you know.

And so every racing game would be the same. Every FPS would be the same, every RPG would be the same.

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:
Sure AC and Conviction will have similiarities, but I think calling them just re-textured versions is way too early.

-------

"Tonight's forecast...dark."

quote:

Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:

quote:

Originally posted by CoastalGirl:
You're focused on the meat of the games, not the bones. And, if you think the bones are different, you're not looking deep enough.

There's a reason games are categorized by genre, you know.

And so every racing game would be the same. Every FPS would be the same, every RPG would be the same.

Did you even read what I said? I'm talking about the bones of a game, while you're talking about meat. They're not the same thing.

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:
Sure AC and Conviction will have similiarities, but I think calling them just re-textured versions is way too early.

Who is that directed at? Because, I never said they were "re-textured versions". However, I do think there are clear similarities between AC and what was shown of SCC.
And, as I have said before, several times, SCC probably looks nothing like what we saw... So, where are you going with this?

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:

quote:

Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:
Sure AC and Conviction will have similiarities, but I think calling them just re-textured versions is way too early.

Who is that directed at? Because, I never said they were "re-textured versions". However, I do think there are clear similarities between AC and what was shown of SCC.
And, as I have said before, several times, SCC probably looks nothing like what we saw... So, where are you going with this?

people.

I'll just be going now to set up my Live, before i piss everyone off.

-------

"Tonight's forecast...dark."

quote:

Originally posted by BasheD.:

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:
And so every racing game would be the same. Every FPS would be the same, every RPG would be the same. Sure AC and Conviction will have similiarities, but I think calling them just re-textured versions is way too early.

Don't you get the difference between AC/Conviction and all the other games you mentioned?

AC and Conviction are both from Ubisoft Montreal. That's why we think it's a copy & paste + alternate. Come on, it's obvious, why would they create all the stuff once again for Conviction when they already did it for AC? Doesn't matter which game ripped off the other btw, no one can deny that Ubisoft would never be so dumb as to let two different developement teams seperately create similiar things like the aforementioned.

Never Ignorant, Getting Goals Accomplished

quote:

Originally posted by MKCC14:

quote:

Originally posted by BasheD.:

quote:

Originally posted by kalle90:
And so every racing game would be the same. Every FPS would be the same, every RPG would be the same. Sure AC and Conviction will have similiarities, but I think calling them just re-textured versions is way too early.

Don't you get the difference between AC/Conviction and all the other games you mentioned?

AC and Conviction are both from Ubisoft Montreal. That's why we think it's a copy & paste + alternate. Come on, it's obvious, why would they create all the stuff once again for Conviction when they already did it for AC? Doesn't matter which game ripped off the other btw, no one can deny that Ubisoft would never be so dumb as to let two different developement teams seperately create similiar things like the aforementioned.

Thanks for letting me know Jade Raymond is producing SCC.

quote:

Originally posted by MKCC14:
Thanks for letting me know Jade Raymond is producing SCC.

-------

"Tonight's forecast...dark."