Oomph! >Krrkkk<



Oh uh...that was of course intentionally. I just wanted to show you how you'd never try to escape from a situation like this one.

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
Oomph! >Krrkkk<

LoL So, you ready to talk yet or do we have to do that again?

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Originally posted by CoastalGirl:
LoL So, you ready to talk yet or do we have to do that again?

I'm afraid I can't - my dog needs a walk right now at this very moment!

*disappears, only leaving a dust cloud*

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:

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Originally posted by CoastalGirl:
LoL So, you ready to talk yet or do we have to do that again?

I'm afraid I can't - my dog needs a walk right now at this very moment!

*disappears, only leaving a dust cloud*

:: reappears, choking on the dust ::

I warned ya...

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Originally posted by EskimoBob32:
If the only groundbreaking new feature in SCC is the ability to pick up anything and use it as a weapon, they are focusing their efforts into all the wrong areas, as the combat system shows.

Ok, let me repeat it (again).

Sam won't just be able to pick up anything and use it as weapon but also as a tool or simply for what it has been made!

Take for example a chair. Sam could use it to barricade a door (normal button), break a window to create an exit / knock someone out (aggressive button) or barricade a door to avoid any negative surprises (stealth button).

As I already pointed out (numerous times), it's basically like a much more evolved version of the closer-than-ever system which was introduced in Chaos Theory combined with an open map design!

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
won't just be able to pick up anything and use it as weapon but also as a tool or simply for what it has been made!

So instead of throwing the printer, he can print a document instead? And hand it to the enemy? And they'll start to read it, giving you time to make your escape?

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Originally posted by CoastalGirl:
So instead of throwing the printer, he can print a document instead? And hand it to the enemy? And they'll start to read it, giving you time to make your escape?

Uh...I don't think so!

Guard: "Freeze!"
Fisher: "Easy man, I was just checking my ebay account to see if I'm the higgest bidder on this boat!"

*Fisher starts the Printer*

Guard: "Really? Hmm...I know something about boats, lemme see!"

*puts his gun back into the holster and starts to read the description*
*Fisher sneaks past him and out of the office*

Guard: "Man, you're so dumb - your bet is way tooo.... Heyyyy, where are you?"

Ok serious.

Theoretically he could throw the printer, use the paper inside the printer to throw it in the face of a guard in order to confuse him long enough to get away or simply behind cover or he could simply turn it on to create a distraction!

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Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
won't just be able to pick up anything and use it as weapon but also as a tool or simply for what it has been made!

So instead of throwing the printer, he can print a document instead? And hand it to the enemy? And they'll start to read it, giving you time to make your escape?

Or he could rest it on the floor with the stealth button, kick it with the aggressive button to take out the enemies legs. Giving him enough time to pull out 2 MP5's and slo-mo dive behind a desk while shooting aimlessly.

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Originally posted by MKCC14:

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Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
won't just be able to pick up anything and use it as weapon but also as a tool or simply for what it has been made!

So instead of throwing the printer, he can print a document instead? And hand it to the enemy? And they'll start to read it, giving you time to make your escape?

Or he could rest it on the floor with the stealth button, kick it with the aggressive button to take out the enemies legs. Giving him enough time to pull out 2 MP5's and slo-mo dive behind a desk while shooting aimlessly.

Maybe even that, yes! No idea with what kind of action they'll come up with for the printer - except throwing it but there will be other interactions!

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:

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Originally posted by CoastalGirl:
So instead of throwing the printer, he can print a document instead? And hand it to the enemy? And they'll start to read it, giving you time to make your escape?

Uh...I don't think so!

Guard: "Freeze!"
Fisher: "Easy man, I was just checking my ebay account to see if I'm the higgest bidder on this boat!"

*Fisher starts the Printer*

Guard: "Really? Hmm...I know something about boats, lemme see!"

*puts his gun back into the holster and starts to read the description*
*Fisher sneaks past him and out of the office*

Guard: "Man, you're so dumb - your bet is way tooo.... Heyyyy, where are you?"

Ok serious.

Theoretically he could throw the printer, use the paper inside the printer to throw it in the face of a guard in order to confuse him long enough to get away or simply behind cover or he could simply turn it on to create a distraction!

I like the non-serious answer better.
I want to see a return of some funny stuff...

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Originally posted by MKCC14:
Or he could rest it on the floor with the stealth button, kick it with the aggressive button to take out the enemies legs. Giving him enough time to pull out 2 MP5's and slo-mo dive behind a desk while shooting aimlessly.

Well, the shooting aimlessly part I could do...

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Originally posted by CoastalGirl:
I want to see a return of some funny stuff...

Same here - I missed a lot of Sam's dark humour in SCDA!

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:

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Originally posted by CoastalGirl:
I want to see a return of some funny stuff...

Same here - I missed a lot of Sam's dark humour in SCDA!

I'm thinkin' they didn't realize that Sam's dark humor was so well loved.

That, or they thought being cliché was more important.

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Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:

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Originally posted by CoastalGirl:
I want to see a return of some funny stuff...

Same here - I missed a lot of Sam's dark humour in SCDA!

I'm thinkin' they didn't realize that Sam's dark humor was so well loved.

Definately want the humour back. That was a huge beef I had with DA, not enough dark and hilarious humour! Maybe with the return of Grim, we'll get some of Sam's humour back. She always seemed to bring some of the funny out in Sam.

Well, would you think Sam would want to be funny after his daughter died? Something like that happening will change a person.

Sam was at the peak of his career in SCCT, he made fun of so much famous faces.

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:

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Originally posted by EskimoBob32:
If the only groundbreaking new feature in SCC is the ability to pick up anything and use it as a weapon, they are focusing their efforts into all the wrong areas, as the combat system shows.

Ok, let me repeat it (again).

Sam won't just be able to pick up anything and use it as weapon but also as a tool or simply for what it has been made!

Take for example a chair. Sam could use it to barricade a door (normal button), break a window to create an exit / knock someone out (aggressive button) or barricade a door to avoid any negative surprises (stealth button).

As I already pointed out (numerous times), it's basically like a much more evolved version of the closer-than-ever system which was introduced in Chaos Theory combined with an open map design!

I know you've pointed it out before, but I don't agree. The closer-than-ever system was hardly a real system. It was exactly the same as what previously existed, only with the addition of the knife, one hit KO's from all angles and the neck-breaking etc. But whatever, it remains that whether he is picking up a chair to use it as a weapon or picking it up because he didn't like the feng shue of the room, it isn't that revolutionary a leap. The only thing about it that could be considered revolutionary is the animations behind it.

My point still stands about the combat system. You can compare it to CT if you like, but as I already said CT's "combat" was pressing one button and the enemy is knocked out or dead. The additions to the series, with the exception that it changed whether an enemy was dead or just unconscious, were purely cosmetic. I am yet to see a game that puts as much emphasis on action and combat as Conviction does, have a strong stealth aspect. And even if the stealth turns out good, it won't have reached its potential because they put some of the time into the action bits.

Rayman version:

Sam can pick up chairs, Sam can throw chairs, Sam can use chairs as a tool... But he can't SIT on chairs.

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Originally posted by MKCC14:
Well, would you think Sam would want to be funny after his daughter died? Something like that happening will change a person.

Hence my "cliché" comment.

They should't have killed her. It wouldn't have mattered to me if he did the DA stuff while she was still alive...

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Originally posted by CoastalGirl:

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Originally posted by MKCC14:
Well, would you think Sam would want to be funny after his daughter died? Something like that happening will change a person.

Hence my "cliché" comment.

They should't have killed her. It wouldn't have mattered to me if he did the DA stuff while she was still alive...

DA story was the best so far and I wouldn't have changed anything.

Sam's humor was good, but now Sam is much deeper charachter. Just don't make Sam any comedian now.

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Maybe even that, yes! No idea with what kind of action they'll come up with for the printer - except throwing it but there will be other interactions!

Well, if he can pick it up, and open the cover aggressively, the ink cartridges can shoot out, just like an air foil ring, and nock people out.

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Originally posted by JediWithASniper:
Well, if he can pick it up, and open the cover aggressively, the ink cartridges can shoot out, just like an air foil ring, and nock people out.

Uhm...no.