Well with that said, they know they already have a proven successful gameplay element, L&S gameplay, so they always have that to fall back on, who knows, mybe thats what they are doing, but I doubt.

@Jockdiesel: Show me before Nov 25th (my post) where the devs said there will be changes. Link please, id be highly interested if you can provide one.

http://blog.ubi.com/splinter-cell-conviction/article.ph...0breed#list_comments

read the comments

you owe me an apology

Im talking about on a bigger scale than initial designs as mentioned in that blog, ill say that my source did mention it would be like nothing we have seen in previous gameplay. But you are right, they did mention some changes before then, but I mean on a bigger scale. We'll see though sooner or later. Sorry for the confusion.

hey no problem, what changes do you think the'll bring in?

I've got a feeling they'll just make the hand to hand stuff more realistic because of how bad it looked.

You've got to agree that hyping a game and developing a new physics engine and then doing countless interviews about the fugitive experience is too much for them to go back on surely.

thats probably what it will be yeah, I know most people here aren't happy and say they'd wait another year for a L&S game but hey, they'll probably do that as well so just enjoy Conviction for what it is.

I personally will be very upset if the creative minds at UBI have felt too much pressure to change the format AGAIN after having sold the idea to some of us.

Conviction should definately be a one off but it should be completed with the developers original vision intact, social stealth, the black market, daylight missions, the compelling storyline, spy tradecraft and the Bourne esque hand to hand moveset

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Originally posted by scworld:
From a company perspective, it's silly to change their mind this late.
I'll believe the change when/if I play the demo. Till then, I am not buying SCC.

I'd be shocked if UBI put out a demo. The company didn't fix any of the bugs revealed in the CT demo. The company did not listen to the vets who played the CT Demo. So why would they bother. Of course UBI hasn't made decisions which made sense about Splinter Cell in a long time and they still pocketed my hard earned cash for SC4.


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Whats up w/ my post count and join date. I joined this forum in 2004?

Why couldn't there be all: Light/Shadow, sound and Social stealth?

Splinter Cell 1 didn't have sound meter, but it was there, people heard your steps and shots.
By the look of the Trailer I have to say there's pretty much darkness and dark spots (compare to AC). So why would it be impossible for me to hide in dark alley? Maybe it just wouldn't be the center aspect of the game like it was earlier. Its just unrealistic if i stand in darkness and far away police in lighted bar just see me, that's like old PS game. Sure some pederestian who passes me nearby could go tell them, but that would be just my stupidity and amazing feature. I would have to walk in light behind crowd but could also hide in darkness sometimes.

Is it just not going to happen? Impossible or lazyness? It would really disturb to stand in far away dark bushy park crouched behind some sign and notice that unaware police about 100 meters away see me and attack. But standing behind sign wouldnt help me to complete game.

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Originally posted by kalle90:
Is it just not going to happen?

Yes.