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Originally posted by soron:

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Originally posted by scorch54:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by EskimoBob32:
I don't think the 6th game should be a 'mix of everything'; if history of video gaming has taught us anything, it's that hybrids fail. Remember when Rainbow Six tried to mix 'tactical' and 'arcade' shooters? That unfortunate accident was called Lockdown. Remember when Splinter Cell tried to use the light/darkness stealth mechanic in Kinshasa/DA? While some liked the mission/game, it was hardly tactical, mostly just luck whether you got caught or not.

Games should specialise. I don't want to see a sports game where you can choose for your player to actually be an undercover government agent, I'd rather have two specialised games that do what they do well than a mix that tries to do everything in a mediocre way.

seriously dude why do u have an issue with DA its a good game i played it about 4 times twice on easy once on norm and once on hard its not a bad game

and for knife_x or whatever your name is, pandora tommorow also is a great game better that SC:Stealth action Redifined and SC:Chaos Theory not better than DA i bet you played the last gen version

CHAOS THEORY NOT BETTER THEN DA??? WHAT ARE YOU FU**ING HIGH? STAY OFF THE DRUGS AND STAY IN SCHOOL!!!

PS: to the parents of this unfortunate soul, inbreeding is wrong!

Seriously, CT beat DA by a ****in long shot. All-in-all, DA was horrible compared to the games prior to it, and CT was by far the second, if not best game in the series.

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Originally posted by Shadow_Agent1:

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Originally posted by soron:

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Originally posted by scorch54:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by EskimoBob32:
I don't think the 6th game should be a 'mix of everything'; if history of video gaming has taught us anything, it's that hybrids fail. Remember when Rainbow Six tried to mix 'tactical' and 'arcade' shooters? That unfortunate accident was called Lockdown. Remember when Splinter Cell tried to use the light/darkness stealth mechanic in Kinshasa/DA? While some liked the mission/game, it was hardly tactical, mostly just luck whether you got caught or not.

Games should specialise. I don't want to see a sports game where you can choose for your player to actually be an undercover government agent, I'd rather have two specialised games that do what they do well than a mix that tries to do everything in a mediocre way.

seriously dude why do u have an issue with DA its a good game i played it about 4 times twice on easy once on norm and once on hard its not a bad game

and for knife_x or whatever your name is, pandora tommorow also is a great game better that SC:Stealth action Redifined and SC:Chaos Theory not better than DA i bet you played the last gen version

CHAOS THEORY NOT BETTER THEN DA??? WHAT ARE YOU FU**ING HIGH? STAY OFF THE DRUGS AND STAY IN SCHOOL!!!

PS: to the parents of this unfortunate soul, inbreeding is wrong!

Seriously, CT beat DA by a ****in long shot. All-in-all, DA was horrible compared to the games prior to it, and CT was by far the second, if not best game in the series.

lol....why are you people so astonished about this. If he thinks SC DA is better than SC CT then let it be. You have your opinions he has his opinions. Just because majority is in favor for SC CT doesn't mean anything.

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Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:

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Originally posted by chillaxed56:
hey when i heard that this game was a little different with no spys or mercs, i got nervous really fast. doesnt that make this one a completley different game? as kewl as this idea still sounds im a huge huge fan of SP Double agent and would like this to keep on keepin on. i think one of the greatest games ever is ghost recon sumit strike and instead of making it better in my opinion, they just completly made a new game with Advanced war fighter. again this is my opinion but does anybody else feel the same at all?

The game will be different BUT it is a continuation of the story and so the only way it could go

No offence, but that's the dumbest excuse for the change in gameplay I have ever heard. Not only did Ubi not have to "continue" the story in such a drastic way, but the story is hardly a continuation at all. It is set 2 years after DA, remember.

But seriously, forgetting that fact, let's just think where else the story could have gone? (beginning with Sam on the run from the FBI)

1) One mission of Sam using L&S to avoid the FBI, before returning to 3E and having them clear everything up etc.

2) What they actually appear to have done, ie continue more along the lines of Essentials instead of DA and have Sam start out again at 3E, but not go into the fugitive branch.

3) Have Sam be hired by a 3rd party organisation to continue to do what he does in L&S but for a different company.

These are not ideal, especially 3 which means he is not a Splinter Cell (like in Conviction) but I have no story writing experience and am not getting paid for this; I'm sure the staff of Ubi could have thought of something to continue the story without doing what they have done.

Now I'm not saying that you're definitely wrong to think that Conviction is a good idea, as this is a matter of opinion and we haven't even seen much of the game yet. But to say that Conviction is a natural evolution and "the only way it could go" is stupid and irritates me.

Its not a continuation at all...fact.

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Originally posted by MKCC14:
Its not a continuation at all...fact.

I think that's a bit of a stretch... if you listen to what Jackie says about Essentials it does somewhat make sense, but I agree with you that it has very little to do with DA, and I doubt your choices in DA will affect C at all.

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Originally posted by EskimoBob32:

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Originally posted by MKCC14:
Its not a continuation at all...fact.

I think that's a bit of a stretch... if you listen to what Jackie says about Essentials it does somewhat make sense, but I agree with you that it has very little to do with DA, and I doubt your choices in DA will affect C at all.

Im going on what I read in an interview with one of the producers of the game.

E made no sense at all, and DA does have an impact because of the things it did to E, which led to the confusion and screw-up of the storyline.

I don't know why everybody is so upset about the 'screw-up' of the storyline. They only is ever a few (fairly weak) options to make a sequel to games with major choices. One is to choose one side and run with it, and make the rest not canon. Another is to completely ignore the choices and continue, like they seem to have done here. The only other option I can think of, where the only instance that I know of is KOTOR, is that they have you make a choice of what happened in the previous game at the beginning of the new game, and have slight variations throughout based on your choice that don't really affect the game at all.

hell all im worried about is the multiplayer play. dont care a whole lot about the story that much, cept for gammer points for 360, but i just didnt want to loose the spy vs merc on multiplayer since that doesnt exist on conviction. im fine with just playing double agent but eventually nobody will play that anymore online cuz conviction is out.

I dont think theres going to be a multiplayer mode...

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Originally posted by Shadow_Agent1:
I dont think theres going to be a multiplayer mode...

No there will definatly be SOME sort of multiplayer...

Well, how would it work? All you do in the game is play as an old fugitive who probably shouldnt be running around, and there isnt any connection betweem him and actual splinter cells. It wouldnt make sense to play the game like that, and then have the spy vs. merc multiplayer mode on the game as well...

The whole game will prob. change before it hits the shelf anyway.

Half of the game you dont even play as a fugitive. You should go dig up some info, and it will be hard to do that now since the last info on the game was released many months ago.

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Originally posted by MKCC14:
Half of the game you dont even play as a fugitive. You should go dig up some info, and it will be hard to do that now since the last info on the game was released many months ago.

All that info is prob. long out of date now. I'm sure there will be changes already made. We will most likely hear more as the scheduled release date gets near.

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Originally posted by Shadow_Agent1:
Well, how would it work? All you do in the game is play as an old fugitive who probably shouldnt be running around, and there isnt any connection betweem him and actual splinter cells. It wouldnt make sense to play the game like that, and then have the spy vs. merc multiplayer mode on the game as well...

I think most people are pretty sure SvM isn't coming back.

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All that info is prob. long out of date now. I'm sure there will be changes already made. We will most likely hear more as the scheduled release date gets near.

The release date seems more likely to get further away than nearer.

So they can't do a MP, because of my point of how off subject it would be... If they WANTED to, it would have to be something stupid, like, old fugitives vs. police or somethin...

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Originally posted by Shadow_Agent1:
So they can't do a MP, because of my point of how off subject it would be... If they WANTED to, it would have to be something stupid, like, old fugitives vs. police or somethin...

Sorry to disappoint you, but it's been already said that there will be a multiplayer mode, actually even 2.

I hope you'll have a pleasant day, though!

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Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:

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Originally posted by Shadow_Agent1:
So they can't do a MP, because of my point of how off subject it would be... If they WANTED to, it would have to be something stupid, like, old fugitives vs. police or somethin...

Sorry to disappoint you, but it's been already said that there will be a multiplayer mode, actually even 2.

I hope you'll have a pleasant day, though!

Is one of those two suppossed to be co op?

According to an interview from the EDGE magazine, yep storybased coop but unlike every other coop we've seen before (no Shadownet spy / Splinter Cell duo this time).

However keep in mind that the info is by now pretty old, so it might be possible, that the developers changed parts of the concept.