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Originally posted by Halo_99:

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Originally posted by Halo_99:
PLEASE... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...

Let this be the last Splinter Cell game... We can't take it anymore...

It's NOT. : because, the way I read that original post and from everything else we know about this game right now ; it's a SpinOff game.

If there will be no SC named game after this one, then I will personally consider SC DA on Xbox1 the last final Splinter Cell game.

For what it looks like to cater for, Conviction seems to be shaping up as a sweet n solid "Hollywood-ized, Fugitive-ized, Bourne-ized" game in
which i still lack total interest. Sure, i believe it will be a tense and tactical game, full of sneaking moments ; but due to the premise and styling which deviates so much, I will say goodbye to the franchise for now. Zero interest.

Realtime adjusted Ambient Occlusion is a sweet icing to the graphical cake, but I'm sure more games will have it or will look great without such a feat.

Since it will only launch on PC and Xbox360 - and I doubt my 1900XTX will run it smoothly at eyecandy settings - I will have to choose between getting an Xbox360 (again, since i resold my last one) or a PS3 for Metal Gear Solid 4.

Big likelyhood I will prefer MGS4 on PS3. If there were a next gen SC game other than Conviction, the choice between XB360 and PS3 would have been alot more difficult for me.

I meant FOREVER. I do not want to see another Splinter Cell game being released ever again.

Why?

Okay, Okay. I know many of you are displeased with the way Ubi took the SC franchise. And frankly, I agree, but could we please take this conversation to the post I made for it, and go back ontopic, on how we want ConViction (knowing that we cant bring the light-shadow-gameplay and all that stuff back in this game).


Discussion on 'Why we don't want SC anymore'

i find it stupid dat they dont hav it on ps3 there just to lazy to make it on other platforms

They don't just shaft other platforms, they give entire communities the shaft by releasing buggy games that they don't intend on supporting. There's STILL game-breaking bugs from CT SvM, need I even mention the 360 version of DA, LET ALONE mention the non-playable PC version. Here's proof:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/393107431/m/6971009716

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Originally posted by Harry_the_one:
i find it stupid dat they dont hav it on ps3 there just to lazy to make it on other platforms

The PS3 will prob. go the way of the Dream Cast.

There's still the ambient occlusion error.

I think the 360 would have less problems if it played the games off the hard drive instead of running the game disk all the time like a PC. I was playing it with my nephews and when we took a five minute break my sister moved the 306 while it was running and scratched the **** out of the game disk. That **** never happened with the old Xbox.

Soron I think the reason they do that is precisely the same reason they do it on the PC: while it is run off the hard drive, one disc could provide gameplay to many people at once. If you require the disc, well one disc plays one person.

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Soron I think the reason they do that is precisely the same reason they do it on the PC: while it is run off the hard drive, one disc could provide gameplay to many people at once. If you require the disc, well one disc plays one person.

The PC checks the game disk before the game runs, but it plays off the hard drive. If you take I game disk out of the computer while you are playing the game it does not stop but when it loads a new level it asks for the disk again (most games I have seen). The 360 plays the game off the disk for some reason unknown to me, but is prob. so you don't have to wait a long time when you first start the game. The wait time is a small price to pay compared to replacement of disks and consoles.

What is it with the Clancy game fans, whether it's Rainbow, Ghost or this series, you guys just hate change.

You'd rather have every sequel play just like the ones before it.

I'm sorry but that's just being selfish. Video Game devs are creative people, which means they need to do something new. Rehashing old gameplay is NOT NEW. So how about you guys just quit all this complaining and let the devs make the game they want to make.

I like the new direction of Conviction, all i think about are all of the different possibilities of completing a mission and all of the cool things i'll be able to pull off. The kinds of things only seen in movies. You couldn't really do that in the old games.


Any devs out there reading this, don't pay any attention to these people. Make the game you want to make. They'll come around once it's finished.

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You'd rather have every sequel play just like the ones before it.

Yes, if it's not broken, don't fix it, but add to it in the same quality.

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Video Game devs are creative people, which means they need to do something new

That's called: setting up a new franchise. Assassin's Creed is a good example.

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What is it with the Clancy game fans, whether it's Rainbow, Ghost or this series, you guys just hate change.

You'd rather have every sequel play just like the ones before it.

I'm sorry but that's just being selfish. Video Game devs are creative people, which means they need to do something new. Rehashing old gameplay is NOT NEW. So how about you guys just quit all this complaining and let the devs make the game they want to make.

I like the new direction of Conviction, all i think about are all of the different possibilities of completing a mission and all of the cool things i'll be able to pull off. The kinds of things only seen in movies. You couldn't really do that in the old games.


Any devs out there reading this, don't pay any attention to these people. Make the game you want to make. They'll come around once it's finished.

Personally, I want the game to evolve, keeping the features that made the games great to begin with and adding more features to it, not completely changing how the game is played (i.e. play the team as a whole instead of playing a hero save for SC). That's the difference.

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So how about you guys just quit all this complaining and let the devs make the game they want to make.

If we did that, we'd be playing Frogger. I don't want that.

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Originally posted by Asylum0:
Make the game you want to make. They'll come around once it's finished.

That's what they said before DA. Whoops.

Put a sock in it noob

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Any devs out there reading this, don't pay any attention to these people. Make the game you want to make. They'll come around once it's finished.

That made my day. For serious.

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So how about you guys just quit all this complaining and let the devs make the game they want to make.

If we did that, we'd be playing Frogger. I don't want that.

Are you bagging out Frogger?

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They'll come around once it's finished.

NO,,i won't. I didn't "come around" for 360DA either,so that blows your theory out the window.

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Originally posted by Asylum0:
What is it with the Clancy game fans, whether it's Rainbow, Ghost or this series, you guys just hate change.

You'd rather have every sequel play just like the ones before it.

I'm sorry but that's just being selfish. Video Game devs are creative people, which means they need to do something new. Rehashing old gameplay is NOT NEW. So how about you guys just quit all this complaining and let the devs make the game they want to make.

I like the new direction of Conviction, all i think about are all of the different possibilities of completing a mission and all of the cool things i'll be able to pull off. The kinds of things only seen in movies. You couldn't really do that in the old games.


Any devs out there reading this, don't pay any attention to these people. Make the game you want to make. They'll come around once it's finished.

seriously you should pay attention to other ppl's posting. There is nothing wrong with adding new things, but when they take out everything that made this a great series that is where I draw the line. I don't want an AC clone. Everything in that preview has been done before. there is nothing new about it other than making a great series in to a rehash of other games mixed in to one bowl of ****. The hero vision: Far cry instincts; the line of sight stealth: MGS; crowd stealth: AC, Hitman; throwing **** at ppl: (to a lessor existent) previous SC games. Where is this "trying some thing new" you are talking about? I would like to see new things added but not to the existent that every thing that was good about this series is taken away. You want to know how this game is going to be received by the fans just take a look at DA on X-box 360 and multiply that crappyness by 10. Splinter Cell should never be in the light PERIOD!!! More light=more suck

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Originally posted by legacyzero:
Put a sock in it noob

Calling someone a noob because his opinion is different to yours, won't make your comment more valid. In fact disrespectful behaviour will only get you warned or even banned some day.

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Originally posted by soron:
I don't want an AC clone.

SCC won't become an AC clone.

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The hero vision: Far cry instincts;

How do you know it's gonna be like that?

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the line of sight stealth: MGS;

Ok, that's a point but on the other hand, SC has always been using "line of sight stealth" because stealth in general is about staying out of the line of sight - there's simply no other way of stealth.

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crowd stealth: AC, Hitman;

Sorry but I can't see any kind of "crowd stealth" in Hitman. What you're probably refering to is social stealth and that's also not part of the Hitman gameplay since the crowd doesn't really interact with 47 - it's only "flowing" around him and doesn't really have an effect on him. It doesn't even have a collission detection if you go through it - AC however is a good point.

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throwing **** at ppl: (to a lessor existent) previous SC games

You seem to forget that this is only an option of interaction you'll have in the game. None is going to force you to throw stuff at the AI and there are plenty of other interactions - some are hinted in the trailer, some others you see on the screenshots and there are also some, that you have seen in the Ubi Days Stage Demo footage or that haven't been made public yet. However it's not just about throwing stuff at someone else or barricading doors - these are only a few of your options.

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Where is this "trying some thing new" you are talking about?

Look at the previous comments in this post and you'll see it. Besides, the fugitive and "think on the run" approach is also new.

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I would like to see new things added but not to the existent that every thing that was good about this series is taken away.

And that won't be the case, because these are the same people who created SC in the first place, it's not Shanghai, not Bukarest or some other studio, it's the one who created the very first Splinter Cell game - the game you're "defending" here.

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Splinter Cell should never be in the light PERIOD!!! More light=more suck

Splinter Cell is a stealth-action game so logically it does have a stealth component and stealth doesn't necessarily take only place during night. Look at the Ghosts in Ghost Recon, they're active during day & night, yet they're a stealth unit. Look at the Navy Seals or the german KSK, they're also active during day & night but remain stealth units. I respect your opinion but stealth isn't meant to be only used during night (otherwise stealth bombers are doing something wrong) and Montreal simply tries to add a new stealth layer to the game that ties in with the setting of the game.

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Montreal simply tries to add a new stealth layer to the game that ties in with the setting of the game.

You make it sound like there's still L&S, unless my definition of 'adding' is different from yours. Make up your mind.