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Well, first off, I'd like to point out that I'm one of those all or nothing people, usually to the annoyance of others and myself.
So, when I mention the fact that I want to create a cosplay costume based off of Ezio's, I'm trying to make it is authentic as possible....yeah, I just one of those annoying perfectionists in that area Razz

But before I get started making my "masterpiece" I want to hear you guys' tips and thoughts on the project

So first off I want to point out some observations of Ezio's costume in the earlier pictures.
After discussing it with my mom, we figured that main part of Ezio's outfit, the jerkin, is most likely satin. Probably bridal satin actually


Now, anyone who knows anything about fabric would know that satin can be pretty damn expensive.
Anyways, other materials would be:
Shirt-Fustian or Linen (or some other light fabric)
Pants-not really sure...cotton?
Cape-Leather and probably satin (for the red)
Boots-Leather
Sash-again, unknown
Gloves-maybe a thin leather ?
And the gauntlet is obviously leather as well.

So I was pulling things together for the planning when the CGI trailer was released. The main part of his outfit was not satin.


I've seen the fabric before but am unable to place it. So, any help on the name would be nice.
I figured instead of Satin, I would go with this design instead since It would be easier on my wallet XD
Another thing I noticed was that instead of the red stripes being part of the Jerkin, they were actually a fabric that was underneath. This was common in the Renaissance. A shirt would have holes and such cut open in a jerkin or doublet and it would reveal another layer of different colored fabric beneath.


Also, I want to know what the...er...skirt part of the outfit is attached too. The longest piece seems to attach to the red collar but I don't know what the middle one attaches to.
And lastly, for the very finely detailed metal accessories I would like to use a material that is easier to carve and design than metal but can be given the same appearance. Designing metal would be hard AND expensive, sadly. It's probably the one thing I wont do authentically.


Damn.....that was hella long. Sorry about that.
But if you do take the time to read through this, I would appreciate any advice or tips and tricks.
Thanks.


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It looks to me like he put a few rugs over himself...


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wow... u talked about this with your mom?
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anyways the belt looks kinda feathery if i am not mistaken so you could try and heat the metal with a low powered arc welder or cutting torch... (cutting torch would prolly work better but take longer)... then try to imprint a feathery design into the metal... if you could find a metal feather somehow and hammer it into the soft metal maybe...

as for the arm good luck... try looking into an old china shop for similar items thatd be my best guess

i dont know though im only a dumb american good luck with your suit though plz post pics if you can get it to work Big Grin


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Don't... do it..
 
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Actually I don't think it was satin in the first place. Satin is a pretty light material and somehow that looks heavier than satin.
I'd say it was some heavy silk in the first picture.
When I did my "communion"(I think non Catholics call it something like eucharist) back when I was a kid the fabric of my dress looked a lot like that and I remember it was a silk dress.

Anyway, silk would be even heavier on your wallet so I guess that's out.

In the trailer it looks more like some kind of cotton I believe.
If that's too expensive for you you could always try going for a "cotton/polyester" blend instead...

As a general rule I would try going for cheaper blends whenever possible. I'm sure your budget would be happy.

And for the metal accessories I guess you'll have to get crafting: If you don't want to use metal you'll have to get creative.

What I would probably do if make some kind of "mesh" with metal wire and actually "cast that in" like they do at the hospital with your broken limbs. I'd roll plaster impregnated bandages(which you can get at any drugstore here) around it until I get a nice result. You can always "fill" your mesh with paper for example to make that easier.
After it's dried I'd polish it and would add the fine details. Now here you'll have to get creative again. You could try working with clay, for example, putting a big layer of clay on it and then scraping it off until you get something nice.
You could also keep it rough and just paint the details on it afterwards...
Before painting it I would "polish" once more and after painting it I would spray it with glossy varnish.

If that's too much fuss just cut it out of cardboard. Roll Eyes


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If that's too much fuss just cut it out of cardboard. Roll Eyes


lol cardboard


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I know Sonikdude made an Ezio Cosplay. He has images in the fanart section.

What I would do is take screen shots of the fabric to a place that sells it and see if they can Identify or match it.

Which reminds me I need to start making looking into stuff for my AC based costume =S

Good luck with your project!


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Originally posted by moqqy:
Don't... do it..


Too late, my mind is set Big Grin


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Why not do the black version of his outfit? Big Grin
 
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Originally posted by OniLinkSword:
Why not do the black version of his outfit? Big Grin


Because the white is MUCH better Big Grin


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Hey there. I'm in the process of making the cosplay too. Beginning stages though. Just bought fabric for the "first layer" or the shirt and pants.

What I've decided to make the jerkin and such out of is a cotton/twill mix as they're moderately light in terms of weight and wallet. Plus, such fabrics should have the right textures.

About the metal accessories, I was thinking of using "wonderflex" which is like a plastic/fabric combination that you can mold after heating. Also, they're adhesive so you can make individual feathers and stick them together. The problem would be fine details but you could probably follow FYTJ's advice with coating it in something that you could carve with. Another would be price as a sheet of wonderflex had cost my friend around $60.

Finishing off my lont post, thanks for the great screen shots. Would it be okay if I use them as reference?
 
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I used foam for my Altair costume to substitute for metal, but Ezio's metal things don't look as easy to cut with xacto knife (well, Altair's gauntlet was a bitch to cut out with foam too...). Somewhat followed/inspired by this tutorial http://www.entropyhouse.com/pe...tumes/helmsdeep.html and stared at all the other cosplayers on Cosplay.com to try to steal their secrets. Too Happy

But basically, to make something look at least a little metal-ish, buying certain types of spraypaint can help. My dad had some spraypaint that made this weathered grey metal look. Fancy spray paint on the top piece, silver paint on the bottom http://img.photobucket.com/alb...wnsme/gauntlet-1.jpg

Except it was kind of expensive. My dad joked about having sprayed like $10 onto my gauntlet.


>_> Instead of worrying about what is attached to what, wouldn't it be easier to just sew the whole thing together and just cover it all with the belt? Saves time putting it on too. And depending on how well you deal with temperature making some of the layers fake might make the costume less likely to get very hot because then the layers are just the superficial flappy bits instead of a whole extra coat.



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@ FifthGeneration

Good Idea but where am I gonna get supplies like that? And what would the price range be?

@Kaxen
That seems like a really good idea. I'll just have to find a way to make the foam look more solid.


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unless yoy wanted to buy a cuttingg torch the price maybe up to like 300-400 dollars at a random guess.. i really dont know but you might look into a local school's ag shop if they have one still and ask for help there

im not sure if you can rent one or not

you might be able to hire a fabrication specialist to do it for you

but other than that i really dont know


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XD Alright...
I'll look into that. Not sure how good my luck will be though Razz


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Firstly, i believe the "proper" name for that skirt bit is a "Tunic".

As for the lower bit of Ezio's outfit [where the fine "wings" pattern is] you could try some very fine-weave burlap hemp. It can be quite rough though so it may not be brilliant. As for the Leather padding over his shoulder, you could get some foam padded fabric of some kind, and simply sew it down to create the sections of armour.



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Anything you can get that's going to be reasonably solid (plastic or a hardwood come to mind) - whatever's easiest and cheapest where you are, then paint with a metallic paint. Even cheap metal with brighter metallic paint would be an appropriate-looking option.

If you can't get a darker metallic cheap, get a bright one and some black or dark grey paint to mix it with.

Also, if your budget's tighter than your free time, consider using a brush instead of spraypaint. It'll take a lot more time than spraypaint, especially for a quality job, but compare prices - difference can be massive. For detail work you usully need to use a brush to get into tight corners neatly anyway.

Also, bear in mind that wood is porous and would be best sanded and treated before painting - but after being carved into shape. Plastic would be easier to do yourself, because it just needs to be shaped and painted.


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Originally posted by c-swain:
Firstly, i believe the "proper" name for that skirt bit is a "Tunic".

As for the lower bit of Ezio's outfit [where the fine "wings" pattern is] you could try some very fine-weave burlap hemp. It can be quite rough though so it may not be brilliant. As for the Leather padding over his shoulder, you could get some foam padded fabric of some kind, and simply sew it down to create the sections of armour.


Yeah, I wanted to say tunic but I wasn't sure if it was the correct term XD

And...uh...you lost me about what burlap hemp would be used for...


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I find this website really cool and really annoying at the same time.

Ezio Costume

You'll need to do some metalwork or make it look better. Beat the corporation that gives people cooler costumes than typical Halloween types. O_o
 
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Originally posted by OniLinkSword:
I find this website really cool and really annoying at the same time.

Ezio Costume

You'll need to do some metalwork or make it look better. Beat the corporation that gives people cooler costumes than typical Halloween types. O_o


The quality at Cosplay Magic isn't the best.



>_> My mother (my slave-labor seamstress) can't look at that site without saying "I'll make it better and cheaper!"



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