Yes, strictly PG-13+ is what I read.
Anyway, I think this topic is ready to be closed because the question has been answered. Unless, Funkeq, you have something else to ask?

thanks, you are right Azugo it seems to be covered. Again, not being a gamer myself, I was just hoping someone knew how mature the game was as I am told some M's are really not that bad, some T's are, some have settings to get around it, etc...probably should have kept me personal opinion out and stuck to the facts, sorry.

funkeq

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Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
What is the correlation between time and moral decency?

I don't see it.

...Ever heard of the 70's? They didn't care about any kind of 'moral decency'. Sex, drugs, and Rock&Roll.

Your perspective is limited to the West.

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Originally posted by funkeq:
thanks, you are right Azugo it seems to be covered. Again, not being a gamer myself, I was just hoping someone knew how mature the game was as I am told some M's are really not that bad, some T's are, some have settings to get around it, etc...probably should have kept me personal opinion out and stuck to the facts, sorry.

funkeq

Nothing wrong with giving your personal opinion, just expect to see other opinions too when you do.
Again, I have nothing against you personally, my views just aren't the same as yours.

For a moment I thought this thread was made by the same guy who got banned a while back.

Anyways, I would say it's your judgment call. I played all the Halos, the Fables, Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 and Assassin Creed before I was 17. All these games involve killing something (most of the time brutally) or suggestive images. Like others have said the "sex scene" only involves seeing the back of a woman, so it probably is safe. I'm have no right to tell you how to raise you kids, but if you think your son is mature enough to handle the game then buy it. You could play the game a bit before you let your son play it if really want to be safe

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Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
What is the correlation between time and moral decency?

I don't see it.

Look around you on a sunny day.

Then compare it to a picture in the 50s.

There's your correlation. People change over the course of years and with them so does their culture and moral values. And this isn't limitted only to "the west".

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Originally posted by darkghost1995:

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Originally posted by Azugo:

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Originally posted by Coolgerb:
...You're complaining about a game THAT IS BASED AROUND KILLING PEOPLE!?

I seriously hate that kind of ignorance. And who the HELL cares about nudity in a game? You're pathetic for calling Ubisoft (and developers in general) pervs.

You're even more pathetic for blaming Ubisoft for your inability to raise your son decently.
I wanna bet you don't want him to be educated on sex either, right? Because he will see nudity!

I know that I shouldn't interfere with this but, I think you're out of line. You should never tell a parent how to raise their kids.

yeah until 18 they can raise him how they want and you shouldn't question it

Problem is that your education doesn't suddenly end at 18. Whatever happened before that, you will carry with you for the rest of your life, so I'd say you are allowed to question someone else's parenting. A child isn't property like a house or a chair. With those, people can do whatever the hell they want with it, but when something can get scarred for the rest of its life, you have every right to meddle with it, giving sufficient reason. What do you think child protection services was made for?


EDIT: Where did that post go?

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Originally posted by funkeq:
I think the M titles are limiting their sales potential for a few jollies, that's all.

Eh... The first Assassin's Creed sold six million. Any limited sales potential there is questionable.

I doubt the "sex" in Assassin's Creed II will be any worse than something your kid can find on the TV at three in the afternoon, but the game is very violent.

If your son is really twelve years old, I would strongly recommend you not get this game for him. It's your choice as a parent, but there are plenty of other games out there that would be better suited for him. Maybe hold off on Assassin's Creed until he's at least fifteen.

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Originally posted by El_Sjietah:

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Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
What is the correlation between time and moral decency?

I don't see it.

Look around you on a sunny day.

Then compare it to a picture in the 50s.

There's your correlation. People change over the course of years and with them so does their culture and moral values. And this isn't limitted only to "the west".

Every day is a sunny day over here, and I've looked around, and I haven't noted anything different aside from the heavy reliance on technology.
Moral values are still the same.

Of course it's not limited to the West, but you don't know enough about the rest of the world to throw out such a generalized statement.

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Originally posted by bladencrowd:
Anyways, I would say it's your judgment call. I played all the Halos, the Fables, Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 and Assassin Creed before I was 17. I'm have no right to tell you how to raise you kids, but if you think your son is mature enough to handle the game then buy it. You could play the game a bit before you let your son play it if really want to be safe

Playing it beforehand is a good idea, or if you really do want to get it for your son, you could always talk with him beforehand about how it's not real. It's important to keep the lines of communication open with your kids, especially when it comes to this sort of stuff. Because sheltering them from it isn't going to keep them from seeking it out themselves, and that could be even worse. If you present mature themes in a way that make it seem as though it's not a huge deal (ie: nudity and the like), then they're not going to treat it like it's a big deal.

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Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:

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Originally posted by El_Sjietah:

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Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
What is the correlation between time and moral decency?

I don't see it.

Look around you on a sunny day.

Then compare it to a picture in the 50s.

There's your correlation. People change over the course of years and with them so does their culture and moral values. And this isn't limitted only to "the west".

Every day is a sunny day over here, and I've looked around, and I haven't noted anything different aside from the heavy reliance on technology.
Moral values are still the same.

Of course it's not limited to the West, but you don't know enough about the rest of the world to throw out such a generalized statement.

And you don't know enough about me to throw out such an assumption.

If you think moral values haven't changed since the fifties you need to get out from underneath your rock.

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Originally posted by El_Sjietah:

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Originally posted by darkghost1995:

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Originally posted by Azugo:

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Originally posted by Coolgerb:
...You're complaining about a game THAT IS BASED AROUND KILLING PEOPLE!?

I seriously hate that kind of ignorance. And who the HELL cares about nudity in a game? You're pathetic for calling Ubisoft (and developers in general) pervs.

You're even more pathetic for blaming Ubisoft for your inability to raise your son decently.
I wanna bet you don't want him to be educated on sex either, right? Because he will see nudity!

I know that I shouldn't interfere with this but, I think you're out of line. You should never tell a parent how to raise their kids.

yeah until 18 they can raise him how they want and you shouldn't question it

Problem is that your education doesn't suddenly end at 18. Whatever happened before that, you will carry with you for the rest of your life, so I'd say you are allowed to question someone else's parenting. A child isn't property like a house or a chair. With those, people can do whatever the hell they want with it, but when something can get scarred for the rest of its life, you have every right to meddle with it, giving sufficient reason. What do you think child protection services was made for?


EDIT: Where did that post go?

Yep, I totally agree with you there. What I meant was that you can't question parenting, unless the parent is abusive etc... Like my next door neighbours parents to their little 6 year old child... The poor kid.

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Originally posted by keepth3beat:
Playing it beforehand is a good idea, or if you really do want to get it for your son, you could always talk with him beforehand about how it's not real. It's important to keep the lines of communication open with your kids, especially when it comes to this sort of stuff. Because sheltering them from it isn't going to keep them from seeking it out themselves, and that could be even worse. If you present mature themes in a way that make it seem as though it's not a huge deal (ie: nudity and the like), then they're not going to treat it like it's a big deal.

On second thought, keepth3beat's answer is for the win.

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Originally posted by El_Sjietah:
And you don't know enough about me to throw out such an assumption.

If you think moral values haven't changed since the fifties you need to get out from underneath your rock.

There's no assumption there, which proves that you didn't understand what I said, which makes your last point void of meaning.

You guys are gonna be good parents one day!

By the way, anyone know how I can get to sleep? It's 4:20AM here in Australia...

How to guide to bad parenting:

It has bloody impaling of guards on more weapons than you can count, tons of violence and strong language? Oh, no problem. My 12 year old loves that- wait, a sex scene that fades to black? DARN YOU, UBISOFT. CORRUPTING THE MINDS OF CHILDREN EVERYWHERE WITH YOUR EVIL WAYS.

What? I asked for ideas on how I can get to sleep. Not that.

The best way would be to get off these forums and go to bed.

He was replying to the topic, not to you.

Lol maybe I should delete that post. I'm a bit out of it at the moment. Like before, I just imagined a picture of Yoshi poking his tongue out at me. You know? That green dinosaur thing... Yeah.